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Sun 09/21/14


Total Messages Posted: 5



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     1. 08:56 AM - Re: 914 / Woodcomp / fuel consumption ... ?? (h&jeuropa)
     2. 12:19 PM - Re: a Yank's sense of humor...off topic (Alan Carter)
     3. 12:54 PM - PV 50 Prop. (Alan Carter)
     4. 03:33 PM - Re: Re: a Yank's sense of humor...off topic (GRAHAM SINGLETON)
     5. 07:04 PM - Performance chart Europa CLASSIC C-GPEL (Christoph Both)
 
 
 


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    Time: 08:56:41 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: 914 / Woodcomp / fuel consumption ... ??
    From: "h&amp;jeuropa" <butcher43@att.net>
    Gert, Your original post was asking how to figure out power settings for your 914 and Woodcomp prop. Here is how we do it. The 914 and 912 Operators Manuals give tables of suggested RPM and MP settings for 115% (only for 914), 100%, 75%, 65% and 55% power. Fuel flow is related to power. Assuming you have fuel flow measurement in your airplane, to choose a set of operating parameters (RPM & MP), first fly the desired power setting as given in the Operators Manual. Note the fuel flow. Now change one parameter, say RPM. Then adjust the other parameter until the same fuel flow is indicated. That will be a new pair of operating parameters for that power setting. Another way to do this and the way to calculate operating parameters for other than the power settings given in the Operators Manuals, is to note that the graphs are related to each other. Say you wanted to develop operating parameters for 40% power. Look at the Engine Performance graph and note that 40 hp (40% of 100 hp) is 4100 RPM. Now look at the Manifold Pressure graph and note that 4100 RPM is 26.5 in Hg. Now look at Fuel Consumption graph and note that 4100 RPM gives 2.8 GPH. Rotax SL-912-016 or SL-914-014, Essential Information, gives some operating information. These Service Letters state that WOT (wide open throttle) RPM should not be less than 5200 RPM. This is to prevent excessive loading of the gearbox. This is why many operators run their 914 or 912 at 5000 RPM or above. We generally cruise at 5000 RPM, climb at 5500 RPM and use 5700 RPM for takeoff in our 914 Airmaster equipped Europa. Other portions of this thread concern IAS and TAS. TAS is IAS corrected for density (temperature and pressure). As Remi points out, TAS should be used when making performance comparisons since it takes the variation in air density from flight to flight into consideration. For a given power setting, TAS will increase with altitude since the air becomes less dense with altitude. This is why a turbo is nice, since you can develop high power at higher altitudes. We typically operate at 5000 RPM and 30.5 in Hg MP or about 73% power. We see TAS of about 145 kts at 8000 ft and 150 kts at 12000 ft and our fuel burn is about 5.5 gph. A normally aspirated engine (912S) loses power at higher altitude because the air becomes less dense so manifold pressure decreases. There is a graph in the 912S OM that shows this. You can develop 75% power (51KW) with WOT up to 2300 m (7000 ft) at 5000 RPM. You can develop 65% power (45 KW) with WOT up to 3500 m (10500) at 5000 RPM Hope this helps. Jim & Heather Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=430876#430876


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    Time: 12:19:42 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: a Yank's sense of humor...off topic
    From: "Alan Carter" <alancarteresq@onetel.net>
    Hi, Fred. If Scotland had got independence we could keep GMT, then those dark winter nights would not be so long, so I am disappointed. Alan Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=430882#430882


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    Time: 12:54:36 PM PST US
    Subject: PV 50 Prop.
    From: "Alan Carter" <alancarteresq@onetel.net>
    Hi, All. I have a Arblast PV 50 Prop. and find in difficult to get any information on this prop. I know other Europa,s have this prop fitted, and there is no dealer in the UK. Servicing, all I know is to grease the jack screw. is there anything else to check, measure or inspect. Should one have a spare electric pitch motor, as failure would ground the plane. What is the tt to major overhaul, Regards, Alan Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=430886#430886


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    Time: 03:33:48 PM PST US
    From: GRAHAM SINGLETON <grahamsingleton@btinternet.com>
    Subject: Re: a Yank's sense of humor...off topic
    There is no sensible reason why we mess the clocks up anyway. =0AWhy not ma ke Scotland a new timezone anyway?=0AGraham=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A_________________ _______________=0A From: Alan Carter <alancarteresq@onetel.net>=0ATo: europ a-list@matronics.com =0ASent: Sunday, 21 September 2014, 20:18=0ASubject: E uropa-List: Re: a Yank's sense of humor...off topic=0A =0A=0A--> Europa-Lis t message posted by: "Alan Carter" <alancarteresq@onetel.net>=0A=0AHi, Fred .=0AIf Scotland had got independence we could keep GMT, then those dark win ter nights would not be so long, so I am disappointed.=0AAlan=0A=0A=0A=0A =0ARead this topic online here:=0A=0Ahttp://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic. - - - - - - - - - - - - -Matt Dralle, List Admin. ====


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    Time: 07:04:34 PM PST US
    From: Christoph Both <christoph.both@acadiau.ca>
    Subject: Performance chart Europa CLASSIC C-GPEL
    Dear Europa Community: I thought you might find the following comments and attached spreadsheet of interest. I tested and tabulated fly data for Canadian C-GPEL on SEPT 17-2014. You mi ght be interested to see where the most gain is for C-GPEL Classic 912S, Wo odcomp 3000 two blade propellor, Smart Avionic Prop Control. The data colle cted, for 4950RPM where possible, is denoted separately for fuel efficiency and speed with a linear increase in MAP from minimum required power to kee p the plane at altitude, all the way to WOT, measured at 2500 feet. There a re some interesting jumps in the graphic curves, most noticeable around the (EGT) point, where all 4 cylinders turned out to be exactly the same EGT w ithin 10 degrees Celsius on a GRT graphic analyzer (meaning: most effectiv e combustion=best torque). So for most efficiently butting into headwind best suggested would be 27.5MAP (115 IAS) while most efficient tailwind us e would suggest 24.5MAP (95 IAS) or even 23.5 MAP (91 IAS) with a fuel burn of only 9.4 litres/hour (or 2.5 GAL/hr) exactly as the book says. Enduranc e can be chosen at 22.5MAP with a fuel flow of only 8.1 litres/hr (2.16 GAL /hr), magically arriving at 87 IAS, empirically found to be the most effici ent climb speed. Quite a magic square this little airplane. This is all wit hout any speed kit or wheel pants. Chris




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