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1. 01:33 AM - Re: Min turns on rod ends, and a stick height dimension request (Remi Guerner)
2. 02:48 AM - Re: Cranked sticks.........unusual crease, like a crack (Roger Sheridan)
3. 12:52 PM - Ultimate Ventilator (Kelvin Weston)
4. 01:23 PM - Re: Ultimate Ventilator (Kevin Klinefelter)
5. 01:45 PM - Re: Ultimate Ventilator (Fred Klein)
6. 03:11 PM - Re: Ultimate Ventilator (david park)
7. 05:52 PM - Re: Ultimate Ventilator (PETER MORGANS)
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| Subject: | Re: Min turns on rod ends, and a stick height dimension request |
Hi Tony,
When I bought my aircraft -this was 13 years ago- I discovered that the pilot stick
was about 2 inches shorter than the copilot's. For some reason the builder
had decided to shorten it. This was making the pitch control very sensitive,
especially in the landing phase. I made an extension to bring the stick length
back to the original configuration and this made my landings a lot easier.
As it is easier to shorten the stick than lengthen it, my advice would be to keep
your stick as it is until you have flown your aircraft for a while, then decide
what length works best for you.
Regards
Remi
F-PGKL
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| Subject: | Re: Cranked sticks.........unusual crease, like a crack |
Hi Tony,
My sticks are unpainted, uncreased & uncracked.
I would be looking to change that based on your final photo.
Brgds,
Roger
On 26 Sep 2014, at 04:33, Tony Renshaw <tonyrenshaw268@gmail.com> wrote:
> Gidday, again,
> With my cranked control sticks, I stripped them of paint and inspected them to
notice a distinct crease where the beginning of the crank occurs. It is on the
inner edge, and appears to be the inner point of a bend, at the end of a vice
gripped section, as the bend is made by pulling towards the operator, if in
fact it was done in a vice, which I very much doubt. So, the actual radius of
the bends looks fine, but on the inner portion of a ben, on the ends of the central
straight sections between the bends, there is what appears to be cracks.
There is no doubt they are manufacturing marks, and I would like to ask if anyone
else has an unpainted stick, if they could inspect theirs and see if they
are the same. I am not going to paint mine now, but possibly coat them in a
clear polyester coating, like you put on polished floorboards, so I can look through
it and inspect it from time to time, if in fact I dont get these replaced.
Any help appreciated, and here is a few photos to highlight my concern.
> Regards
> Tony Renshaw
> P.S. You can feel it, and the tube that is of the bend appears a nominally thicker
radius, probably bulged from the bending process.
>
> <photo 2.JPG><photo 1.JPG><photo 3.JPG><photo 4.JPG>
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| Subject: | Ultimate Ventilator |
Hi all
Have just purchased a couple of ultimate ventilators to fit under the windscreen
either side of the fuselage just forward of the doors.
I saw them fitted to a Europa at Sywell and thought they were a good solution to
the ventilation problem.
My question to those that are flying and already have them fitted is:
Do you have any problem with water ingress when it rains?
I notice that there is no rubber seal or anything fitted and there is quite a gap
between the centre flap and the circular frame when it is closed.
In fact, I am a bit disappointed with them as they have no positive closure device
and can be pushed open from outside when fitted.
I can imagine a lot of rain entering the fuselage when the aircraft is stored outside.
Hope I am wrong because they were bloody expensive.
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Regards
Kelv Weston
Kit 497
kelv@kdweston.biz
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| Subject: | Re: Ultimate Ventilator |
I've hade no water enter though them. Once you paint them the gap gets smaller.
They work quite well for me.
Kevin
Sent from my iPhone
> On Sep 26, 2014, at 12:51 PM, "Kelvin Weston" <kelv@kdweston.biz> wrote:
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> Hi all
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> Have just purchased a couple of ultimate ventilators to fit under the windscreen
either side of the fuselage just forward of the doors.
> I saw them fitted to a Europa at Sywell and thought they were a good solution
to the ventilation problem.
> My question to those that are flying and already have them fitted is:
> Do you have any problem with water ingress when it rains?
> I notice that there is no rubber seal or anything fitted and there is quite a
gap between the centre flap and the circular frame when it is closed.
> In fact, I am a bit disappointed with them as they have no positive closure device
and can be pushed open from outside when fitted.
> I can imagine a lot of rain entering the fuselage when the aircraft is stored
outside.
> Hope I am wrong because they were bloody expensive.
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> Regards
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> Kelv Weston
> Kit 497
> kelv@kdweston.biz
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| Subject: | Re: Ultimate Ventilator |
sure doesnt sound like a value at $125 each (as I recall when I considered buying
a couple)do not archive
On Sep 26, 2014, at 12:51 PM, Kelvin Weston <kelv@kdweston.biz> wrote:
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> Hi all
>
> Have just purchased a couple of ultimate ventilators to fit under the windscreen
either side of the fuselage just forward of the doors.
> I saw them fitted to a Europa at Sywell and thought they were a good solution
to the ventilation problem.
> My question to those that are flying and already have them fitted is:
> Do you have any problem with water ingress when it rains?
> I notice that there is no rubber seal or anything fitted and there is quite a
gap between the centre flap and the circular frame when it is closed.
> In fact, I am a bit disappointed with them as they have no positive closure device
and can be pushed open from outside when fitted.
> I can imagine a lot of rain entering the fuselage when the aircraft is stored
outside.
> Hope I am wrong because they were bloody expensive.
>
> --------
> Regards
>
> Kelv Weston
> Kit 497
> kelv@kdweston.biz
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> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=431150#431150
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| Subject: | Re: Ultimate Ventilator |
I have something like you describe in my Europa G-LDVO and find them a simpl
e and effective solution. Have flown through some rain and no problem.
When parked outside the pic shows the cover over the vent in front of the do
or.
Regards Dave Park (PS. Pic shows me stuck in Rochester on way to Texel with f
og)
> On 26 Sep 2014, at 21:44, Fred Klein <fklein@orcasonline.com> wrote:
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> sure doesn=99t sound like a value at $125 each (as I recall when I c
onsidered buying a couple)do not archive
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>> On Sep 26, 2014, at 12:51 PM, Kelvin Weston <kelv@kdweston.biz> wrote:
>>
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>> Hi all
>>
>> Have just purchased a couple of ultimate ventilators to fit under the win
dscreen either side of the fuselage just forward of the doors.
>> I saw them fitted to a Europa at Sywell and thought they were a good solu
tion to the ventilation problem.
>> My question to those that are flying and already have them fitted is:
>> Do you have any problem with water ingress when it rains?
>> I notice that there is no rubber seal or anything fitted and there is qui
te a gap between the centre flap and the circular frame when it is closed.
>> In fact, I am a bit disappointed with them as they have no positive closu
re device and can be pushed open from outside when fitted.
>> I can imagine a lot of rain entering the fuselage when the aircraft is st
ored outside.
>> Hope I am wrong because they were bloody expensive.
>>
>> --------
>> Regards
>>
>> Kelv Weston
>> Kit 497
>> kelv@kdweston.biz
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>> Read this topic online here:
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>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=431150#431150
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| Subject: | Re: Ultimate Ventilator |
Hi Kelv,=0AWas it mine - G-CFKZ? There is a small circumferential gap, meta
l to metal, of about 0.010". These units provide superb controllable ventil
ation compared to the original units. Have not noticed any problems with ra
in ingress or water after washing. In flight, with vents closed, there is a
slight draft through the gap.=0ARegards=0APeter Morgans=0A=0A=0A__________
______________________=0A From: Kelvin Weston <kelv@kdweston.biz>=0ATo: eur
opa-list@matronics.com =0ASent: Friday, 26 September 2014, 20:51=0ASubject:
Europa-List: Ultimate Ventilator=0A =0A=0A--> Europa-List message posted b
y: "Kelvin Weston" <kelv@kdweston.biz>=0A=0AHi all=0A=0AHave just purchased
a couple of ultimate ventilators to fit under the windscreen either side o
f the fuselage just forward of the doors.=0AI saw them fitted to a Europa a
t Sywell and thought they were a good solution to the ventilation problem.
=0AMy question to those that are flying and already have them fitted is:=0A
Do you have any problem with water ingress when it rains?=0AI notice that t
here is no rubber seal or anything fitted and there is quite a gap between
the centre flap and the circular frame when it is closed.=0AIn fact, I am a
bit disappointed with them as they have no positive closure device and can
be pushed open from outside when fitted.=0AI can imagine a lot of rain ent
ering the fuselage when the aircraft is stored outside.=0AHope I am wrong b
ecause they were bloody expensive.=0A=0A--------=0ARegards=0A=0AKelv Weston
=0AKit 497=0Akelv@kdweston.biz=0A=0A=0A=0A=0ARead this topic online here:
=0A=0Ahttp://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=431150#431150=0A=0A=0A
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