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1. 12:10 AM - Re: mod 77 pushrod rudder drive query (ami-mcfadyean@talktalk.net)
2. 12:13 AM - Re: mod 77 pushrod rudder drive query (alan.twigg775@gmail.com)
3. 12:37 AM - Re: MGL FF Meter with 2 Floscan Senders (Rick Moss)
4. 01:32 AM - Re: mod 77 pushrod rudder drive query (Roger)
5. 01:38 AM - Re: mod 77 pushrod rudder drive query (David Joyce)
6. 01:55 AM - Re: MGL FF Meter with 2 Floscan Senders (David Joyce)
7. 02:04 AM - Re: mod 77 pushrod rudder drive query (GRAHAM SINGLETON)
8. 03:40 AM - Minimum CHT (Richard Lamprey)
9. 04:06 AM - Re: Minimum CHT (Alan Burrill)
10. 04:23 AM - Re: Minimum CHT (Thomas Scherer)
11. 04:32 AM - Re: Re: Identification of parts (Thomas Scherer)
12. 05:17 AM - Re: Re: Identification of parts (danny shepherd)
13. 05:24 AM - Re: Minimum CHT (Gustavo Sessarego)
14. 05:29 AM - Re: Re: Identification of parts (Thomas Scherer)
15. 09:57 AM - Re: Re: Identification of parts (Bud Yerly)
16. 10:56 AM - Re: Re: Identification of parts (William Daniell)
17. 02:05 PM - Turnbuckles. (Tony Renshaw)
18. 02:13 PM - OAT probe location (Fred Klein)
19. 02:41 PM - Re: OAT probe location (David Joyce)
20. 03:18 PM - Re: OAT probe location (Fred Klein)
21. 03:51 PM - OAT probe location (Fred Klein)
22. 07:24 PM - Re: Location of VOR - Nav antenna (tonyvaccarella)
23. 10:17 PM - Re: OAT probe location (David Joyce)
24. 10:21 PM - Re: OAT probe location (David Joyce)
25. 10:41 PM - Re: OAT probe location (Fred Klein)
26. 11:01 PM - Fitting a 100HP to Classic (db308)
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| Subject: | Re: mod 77 pushrod rudder drive query |
Operationally with=C2-the Singleton tailwheel crank, I never had
difficulty with adjustment by means of adding/removing the st
andard=C2-folded-steel chain links. It can be a bit of a f
iddle through a small inspection hole, but so is re-wirelockin
g turnbuckles!=0A=C2-=0A=C2-=0ADMcF.=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A
-----Original Message-----=0AFrom: Fred Klein <fklein@orcasonline.
com>=0ATo: europa-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Sat, 4 Oct 2014
0:30=0ASubject: Re: Europa-List: mod 77 pushrod rudder drive
query=0A=0A=0AOn Oct 3, 2014, at 12:49 PM, Rowland Cars
on <rowlandcarson@gmail.com> wrote:=0ABefore I start the fi
ddly job of re-making cable thimbles on the springs (and thr
owing away the expensive turnbuckle fork ends), can anyone off
er thoughts on how the tailwheel cable turnbuckles can operate
inside the fuselage without fouling the plastic fairleads?=0A
=0ARowlandI too envisioned the aft turnbuckles within
the fuselage, but after encountering the identical problem you
face, I also had concerns about my ability to make adjustmen
ts to them plus the essential safety-wiringconsequently,
my aft turnbuckles will be flying in the breezeF.=0A
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| Subject: | Re: mod 77 pushrod rudder drive query |
Rowland, I was also determined to clean up externals, after swaging I too di
scovered lack of space. I have elected to put turnbuckles with locking pins i
nside the fuselage opting for changing one end of the turnbuckle to fit dire
ctly to the pushrods horn. I will live with having the springs gathering gra
ss where, at least I can check tension visually.
This decision is so new that the fork end Turnbuckle parts had not arrived y
esterday when I left for a Scottish Gliding and walking holiday. You are wel
come to visit Bicester from Sunday 12th. You may be engaged to help me fit t
hem though.
Regards Alan Twigg
Sent from my iPhone
> On 4 Oct 2014, at 00:22, Fred Klein <fklein@orcasonline.com> wrote:
>
>
>> On Oct 3, 2014, at 12:49 PM, Rowland Carson <rowlandcarson@gmail.com> wro
te:
>>
>> Before I start the fiddly job of re-making cable thimbles on the springs (
and throwing away the expensive turnbuckle fork ends), can anyone offer thou
ghts on how the tailwheel cable turnbuckles can operate inside the fuselage w
ithout fouling the plastic fairleads?
>
> RowlandI too envisioned the aft turnbuckles within the fuselage, b
ut after encountering the identical problem you face, I also had concerns ab
out my ability to make adjustments to them plus the essential safety-wiring
consequently, my aft turnbuckles will be flying in the breeze
F.
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| Subject: | Re: MGL FF Meter with 2 Floscan Senders |
As I recall from the MGL FF1 I fitted to my escapade, reducing the K factor increases
the measured flow, and vice versa. Do be aware that the standard supplied
2mm restrictor in the flow meter prevented me getting adequate fuel pressure
and flow at the carbs in the event of a single pump failure. Drilling the restricter
out to 4mm resolved this (but also required recalibration).
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=431472#431472
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| Subject: | Re: mod 77 pushrod rudder drive query |
I have threaded ends pre-swaged onto the cables followed by clevis forks. T
his looks fine but not yet tested in anger.
Please advise if you need a photo.
Rog.
Sent from my iPhone
> On 4 Oct 2014, at 08:12, alan.twigg775@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Rowland, I was also determined to clean up externals, after swaging I too d
iscovered lack of space. I have elected to put turnbuckles with locking pins
inside the fuselage opting for changing one end of the turnbuckle to fit di
rectly to the pushrods horn. I will live with having the springs gathering g
rass where, at least I can check tension visually.
> This decision is so new that the fork end Turnbuckle parts had not arrived
yesterday when I left for a Scottish Gliding and walking holiday. You are w
elcome to visit Bicester from Sunday 12th. You may be engaged to help me fit
them though.
> Regards Alan Twigg
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On 4 Oct 2014, at 00:22, Fred Klein <fklein@orcasonline.com> wrote:
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>>> On Oct 3, 2014, at 12:49 PM, Rowland Carson <rowlandcarson@gmail.com> wr
ote:
>>>
>>> Before I start the fiddly job of re-making cable thimbles on the springs
(and throwing away the expensive turnbuckle fork ends), can anyone offer th
oughts on how the tailwheel cable turnbuckles can operate inside the fuselag
e without fouling the plastic fairleads?
>>
>> RowlandI too envisioned the aft turnbuckles within the fuselage,
but after encountering the identical problem you face, I also had concerns a
bout my ability to make adjustments to them plus the essential safety-wiring
consequently, my aft turnbuckles will be flying in the breeze
F.
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| Subject: | Re: mod 77 pushrod rudder drive query |
Fred, A pity! They will pick up large amounts of grass on
green runways! David Joyce, G-XSDJ, with internal
turnbuckles
On Fri, 3 Oct 2014 16:22:30 -0700
Fred Klein <fklein@orcasonline.com> wrote:
>
> On Oct 3, 2014, at 12:49 PM, Rowland Carson
><rowlandcarson@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Before I start the fiddly job of re-making cable
>>thimbles on the springs (and throwing away the expensive
>>turnbuckle fork ends), can anyone offer thoughts on how
>>the tailwheel cable turnbuckles can operate inside the
>>fuselage without fouling the plastic fairleads?
>
> RowlandI too envisioned the aft turnbuckles within the
>fuselage, but after encountering the identical problem
>you face, I also had concerns about my ability to make
>adjustments to them plus the essential
>safety-wiringconsequently, my aft turnbuckles will be
>flying in the breezeF.
>
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| Subject: | Re: MGL FF Meter with 2 Floscan Senders |
Alan, I have the same set up. It was originally well out
but I have got it to be pretty accurate by successive
adjustments of the K factor. Presumably you have put it on
'differential' in the general set up menu? Otherwise if it
says I have used 50 when I actually put in just 40 to fill
up I multiply the K factor by 50/40. If all else fails the
guy at the UK agents is extremely helpful & knowledgeable.
Regards, David Joyce, G-XSDJ
On Fri, 3 Oct 2014 16:02:12 -0700
"Alan Carter" <alancarteresq@onetel.net> wrote:
><alancarteresq@onetel.net>
>
> Hi All.
> I have just fitted am MGL FF meter to my 914.
> My senders are Floscan and the K factor is given as
>8456.
> On test it ask for say 10 litres to top up, but I can
>only get say 8 in before it starts over spilling.
> I have upped and downed this k factor but still get the
>same problem.
> The flow sender has the same K factor as the return
>sender, and the return sender is measuring what's left
>after the engine has had its share.
> My question : is a K factor of any value if you are
>using a flow and return sender.????
> The flow1 sender is minus the return 2 sender, which
>gives the fuel used.
> I want a higher reading, on the return sender showing an
>increased burn,
> so I can get the extra 2 litres in the tank. That's not
>right,!!!! won't work.
>
> I want sender 1 minus sender 2 to equal the actual fuel
>needed to refill.
> Anybody MGL, Floscan x 2 and a 914
> Alan
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=431463#431463
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>Forums!
>Admin.
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| Subject: | Re: mod 77 pushrod rudder drive query |
I think I prefer the srings inside and the turnbuckles outside. Also, imho
the steel folded steel=0Aclips do ocasionally let go and you suddenly find
you have no tailwheel steering.=0AI prefer shackles=0AGraham=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A
________________________________=0A From: David Joyce <davidjoyce@doctors.o
rg.uk>=0ATo: europa-list@matronics.com =0ASent: Saturday, 4 October 2014, 9
:36=0ASubject: Re: Europa-List: mod 77 pushrod rudder drive query=0A =0A=0A
>=0A=0AFred, A pity! They will pick up large amounts of grass on =0Agreen r
unways! David Joyce, G-XSDJ, with internal =0Aturnbuckles=0A=0A=0AOn Fri, 3
Oct 2014 16:22:30 -0700=0A=C2- Fred Klein <fklein@orcasonline.com> wrote
:=0A> =0A> On Oct 3, 2014, at 12:49 PM, Rowland Carson =0A><rowlandcarson@g
mail.com> wrote:=0A> =0A>> Before I start the fiddly job of re-making cable
=0A>>thimbles on the springs (and throwing away the expensive =0A>>turnbuc
kle fork ends), can anyone offer thoughts on how =0A>>the tailwheel cable t
urnbuckles can operate inside the =0A>>fuselage without fouling the plastic
fairleads?=0A> =0A> RowlandI too envisioned the aft turnbuckles w
ithin the =0A>fuselage, but after encountering the identical problem =0A>yo
u face, I also had concerns about my ability to make =0A>adjustments to the
m plus the essential =0A>safety-wiringconsequently, my aft turnbuc
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This subject has come up before, but still no clear answer... minimum CHT. The
other day, cruising at 9500' over the Great Rift Valley in Kenya, in Europa
5Y-LRY (Classic, Mono, 912 UL, 15 years old, 650 hours), the CHT was down at 55
C. I have very efficient radiators made by Docking Engineering at Silverstone,
but never saw the coolant at this low temp. I use to blank off from time
to time, but then in the hot desert areas it goes up a bit higher, eg 110 C, so
I have to cater for all Kenya conditions. At 55 C it ran sweetly. Rotax info
tells me that the normal is 75 C to 110 C. Is any damage done at lower temps?
Richard, 5y-LRY, Kenya.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=431477#431477
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I suggest that downloading the Rotax manual for your engine may be useful.
The only ref I can find to operating temperatures is a table referring to oil type
and the temperature ratings for differing SAE, apart from the maximums obviously.
Perhaps it should be the Oil Temperature you should be considering.
As to any damage, not willing to speculate - sorry.
Alan
On 4 Oct 2014, at 11:40, Richard Lamprey <lamprey.richard@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> This subject has come up before, but still no clear answer... minimum CHT.
The other day, cruising at 9500' over the Great Rift Valley in Kenya, in Europa
5Y-LRY (Classic, Mono, 912 UL, 15 years old, 650 hours), the CHT was down at
55 C. I have very efficient radiators made by Docking Engineering at Silverstone,
but never saw the coolant at this low temp. I use to blank off from time
to time, but then in the hot desert areas it goes up a bit higher, eg 110 C,
so I have to cater for all Kenya conditions. At 55 C it ran sweetly. Rotax
info tells me that the normal is 75 C to 110 C. Is any damage done at lower
temps?
> Richard, 5y-LRY, Kenya.
>
>
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> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=431477#431477
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Dear Richard,
thank you for renewinging this question. N81EU has now 1.ooo hrs on the
Hobbs and with a modified cooling system. She has flown between the
arctic and the Sahara with sometimes vy low Oil / CHT temps. I do not
see any damage to the engine (e.g. compression), but will like to hear
more input on this.
greetings from the other side of Africa
<Thomas, N81EU>
Am 10/4/2014 11:40 AM, schrieb Richard Lamprey:
>
> This subject has come up before, but still no clear answer... minimum CHT.
The other day, cruising at 9500' over the Great Rift Valley in Kenya, in Europa
5Y-LRY (Classic, Mono, 912 UL, 15 years old, 650 hours), the CHT was down at
55 C. I have very efficient radiators made by Docking Engineering at Silverstone,
but never saw the coolant at this low temp. I use to blank off from time
to time, but then in the hot desert areas it goes up a bit higher, eg 110 C,
so I have to cater for all Kenya conditions. At 55 C it ran sweetly. Rotax
info tells me that the normal is 75 C to 110 C. Is any damage done at lower
temps?
> Richard, 5y-LRY, Kenya.
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Identification of parts |
further to the recent discussion abt parts, I have found in my building
shack the attached part which I do not find in the build manual. It
seems to be aviation grade and possibly related to the control linkage
of the MG-speed brakes.
Any suggestions what this could be / or not Europa-related ?
Thank you in advance
<Thomas, N81EU>
BTW, N81EU does now appear in the German Wikipedia. Any takers for an
English translation ?
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| Subject: | Re: Identification of parts |
On 04/10/2014 12:31, Thomas Scherer wrote:
> further to the recent discussion abt parts, I have found in my
> building shack the attached part which I do not find in the build
> manual. It seems to be aviation grade and possibly related to the
> control linkage of the MG-speed brakes.
>
> Any suggestions what this could be / or not Europa-related ?
>
> Thank you in advance
>
> <Thomas, N81EU>
>
> BTW, N81EU does now appear in the German Wikipedia. Any takers for an
> English translation ?
>
>
> -----
> No virus found in this message.
> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
yes it's the cylinder for the hand operated tri gear brakes.
Cheers Danny.
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hi everybody=2C
i want to leave this e-mail list. how should i do?
regards
> Date: Sat=2C 4 Oct 2014 12:21:43 +0100
> From: thomas@scherer.com
> To: europa-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Europa-List: Minimum CHT
>
>
> Dear Richard=2C
>
> thank you for renewinging this question. N81EU has now 1.ooo hrs on the
> Hobbs and with a modified cooling system. She has flown between the
> arctic and the Sahara with sometimes vy low Oil / CHT temps. I do not
> see any damage to the engine (e.g. compression)=2C but will like to hear
> more input on this.
>
> greetings from the other side of Africa
>
> <Thomas=2C N81EU>
>
> Am 10/4/2014 11:40 AM=2C schrieb Richard Lamprey:
mail.com>
> >
> > This subject has come up before=2C but still no clear answer... minimu
m CHT. The other day=2C cruising at 9500' over the Great Rift Valley in Ke
nya=2C in Europa 5Y-LRY (Classic=2C Mono=2C 912 UL=2C 15 years old=2C 650 h
ours)=2C the CHT was down at 55 C. I have very efficient radiators made by
Docking Engineering at Silverstone=2C but never saw the coolant at this lo
w temp. I use to blank off from time to time=2C but then in the hot desert
areas it goes up a bit higher=2C eg 110 C=2C so I have to cater for all Ke
nya conditions. At 55 C it ran sweetly. Rotax info tells me that the nor
mal is 75 C to 110 C. Is any damage done at lower temps?
> > Richard=2C 5y-LRY=2C Kenya.
> >
> >
> >
> >
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| Subject: | Re: Identification of parts |
Thank you, Danny, for the enlightenment.
I will probably put it up for sale as I prefer foot operated brakes to
have the hand free for the throttle.
BTW, I also have a flaps actuator motor which I will not need on the MG.
If anybody is interested.
be well
<Thomas, N81EU>
> yes it's the cylinder for the hand operated tri gear brakes.
>
> Cheers Danny.
> *
>
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| Subject: | Re: Identification of parts |
Thomas,
The part is a Jamar twin cylinder steering brake used in the US for some
time in trick cars or "drifting".
It is a good master cylinder for the Europa Trigear with hand (finger)
brakes. We have little trouble with them. It usually is the install
and bleeding techniques that cause trouble... I have clients with the
Jamar and have been trouble free for 10 years. We change fluid about
every 3-5 years due to moisture concerns or discoloration in the
reservoir fluid.
Note:
Handles must be at least 9 inches long from the piston up for very easy
operation.
Bleeding this master cylinder is a bit of a pain. It must be installed
so that it can be layed on its side to bleed. The bleed hole is a
horizontally drilled hole so to bleed by pressure from the wheel, one
must lay the Jamar on its side with the bleeded side down and rock it to
assure a bubble free piston.
Originally these were shipped without the inside of the bores cleaned of
polishing fluid as it was assumed one would not operate the brakes
without reading the Jamar instructions and disassemble and clean them.
Unfortunately, Europa and others failed to include this instruction. A
new rubber kit is only $30 US.
Jamar recomends bench bleeding. I'm too lazy.
Works with any type fluid. We recommend Dot 5 (silicone) or Mil 5606
hydraulic fluid. Dot 5 doesn't stain paint or interior in most cases.
Mil 5606 is industry standard, but the red sticky fluid will stain
everything if left to sit.
See the attached bleeding guide and how we do park brake installs for
easier bleeding and operation... We do a complete bleed in about 45
minutes for both sides. If your brakes were installed permanently, then
I suggest you make sure you can service them. In my opinion, nothing
should be built into an airplane you can't easily remove to service,
repair or replace. Nothing.
Best Regards,
Bud Yerly
Custom Flight Creations, Inc.
----- Original Message -----
From: Thomas Scherer<mailto:thomas@scherer.com>
To: europa-list@matronics.com<mailto:europa-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2014 7:31 AM
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Identification of parts
further to the recent discussion abt parts, I have found in my
building
shack the attached part which I do not find in the build manual. It
seems to be aviation grade and possibly related to the control linkage
of the MG-speed brakes.
Any suggestions what this could be / or not Europa-related ?
Thank you in advance
<Thomas, N81EU>
BTW, N81EU does now appear in the German Wikipedia. Any takers for an
English translation ?
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| Subject: | Re: Identification of parts |
Can one use the old style foot cylinders as finger bakes?
Will
William Daniell
LONGPORT
+57 310 295 0744
On Sat, Oct 4, 2014 at 12:56 PM, Bud Yerly <budyerly@msn.com> wrote:
> Thomas,
> The part is a Jamar twin cylinder steering brake used in the US for some
> time in trick cars or "drifting".
> It is a good master cylinder for the Europa Trigear with hand (finger)
> brakes. We have little trouble with them. It usually is the install and
> bleeding techniques that cause trouble... I have clients with the Jamar and
> have been trouble free for 10 years. We change fluid about every 3-5 years
> due to moisture concerns or discoloration in the reservoir fluid.
>
> Note:
> Handles must be at least 9 inches long from the piston up for very easy
> operation.
> Bleeding this master cylinder is a bit of a pain. It must be installed so
> that it can be layed on its side to bleed. The bleed hole is a
> horizontally drilled hole so to bleed by pressure from the wheel, one must
> lay the Jamar on its side with the bleeded side down and rock it to assure
> a bubble free piston.
> Originally these were shipped without the inside of the bores cleaned of
> polishing fluid as it was assumed one would not operate the brakes without
> reading the Jamar instructions and disassemble and clean them.
> Unfortunately, Europa and others failed to include this instruction. A new
> rubber kit is only $30 US.
> Jamar recomends bench bleeding. I'm too lazy.
> Works with any type fluid. We recommend Dot 5 (silicone) or Mil 5606
> hydraulic fluid. Dot 5 doesn't stain paint or interior in most cases. Mil
> 5606 is industry standard, but the red sticky fluid will stain everything
> if left to sit.
>
> See the attached bleeding guide and how we do park brake installs for
> easier bleeding and operation... We do a complete bleed in about 45
> minutes for both sides. If your brakes were installed permanently, then I
> suggest you make sure you can service them. In my opinion, nothing should
> be built into an airplane you can't easily remove to service, repair or
> replace. Nothing.
>
> Best Regards,
> Bud Yerly
> Custom Flight Creations, Inc.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Thomas Scherer <thomas@scherer.com>
> *To:* europa-list@matronics.com
> *Sent:* Saturday, October 04, 2014 7:31 AM
> *Subject:* Re: Europa-List: Re: Identification of parts
>
> further to the recent discussion abt parts, I have found in my building
> shack the attached part which I do not find in the build manual. It
> seems to be aviation grade and possibly related to the control linkage
> of the MG-speed brakes.
>
> Any suggestions what this could be / or not Europa-related ?
>
> Thank you in advance
>
> <Thomas, N81EU>
>
> BTW, N81EU does now appear in the German Wikipedia. Any takers for an
> English translation ?
>
>
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Hi Duncan,
I too have the GS mod, but don=92t recall any chain in my bits. Did GS
give it to you in the kit?
As for re-wirelocking, thats where those really expensive ones from ACS
become handy, as there are two small wire pins you insert to lock it up.
Worth the money. I=92m hoping I can fit them in directly onto shackle
attachments to the main control attachment, the one sandwiched between
the two triangular plates that support it to the aft internal bulkhead,
that way they are as far forward as possible, and reachable too for
adjustment.
Regards
Tony Renshaw
On 4 Oct 2014, at 5:08 pm, ami-mcfadyean@talktalk.net wrote:
> Operationally with the Singleton tailwheel crank, I never had
difficulty with adjustment by means of adding/removing the standard
folded-steel chain links. It can be a bit of a fiddle through a small
inspection hole, but so is re-wirelocking turnbuckles!
>
>
> DMcF.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Fred Klein <fklein@orcasonline.com>
> To: europa-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Sat, 4 Oct 2014 0:30
> Subject: Re: Europa-List: mod 77 pushrod rudder drive query
>
>
> On Oct 3, 2014, at 12:49 PM, Rowland Carson <rowlandcarson@gmail.com>
wrote:
>
>> Before I start the fiddly job of re-making cable thimbles on the
springs (and throwing away the expensive turnbuckle fork ends), can
anyone offer thoughts on how the tailwheel cable turnbuckles can operate
inside the fuselage without fouling the plastic fairleads?
>
> Rowland=85I too envisioned the aft turnbuckles within the fuselage,
but after encountering the identical problem you face, I also had
concerns about my ability to make adjustments to them plus the essential
safety-wiring=85consequently, my aft turnbuckles will be flying in the
breeze=85F.
>
> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List
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| Subject: | OAT probe location |
All,
I offer half my kingdom to anyone who will give me a proven location for an OAT
thermocouple which is part of my aftermarket EMS.
with appreciation,
Fred
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| Subject: | Re: OAT probe location |
Fred, It works nicely just in front of the starboardflap
activator slot, hidden by wing root from sun, but in full
contact with outside air between flap end & fuselage.
Starboard to avoid exhaust fumes. Regards, David Joyce,
GXSDJ
PS Before I accept, how big is the kingdom and how surly
are the natives?
On Sat, 4 Oct 2014 14:13:12 -0700
Fred Klein <fklein@orcasonline.com> wrote:
><fklein@orcasonline.com>
>
> All,
>
> I offer half my kingdom to anyone who will give me a
>proven location for an OAT thermocouple which is part of
>my aftermarket EMS.
>
> with appreciation,
>
>Fred
>
>Un/Subscription,
>Forums!
>Admin.
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| Subject: | Re: OAT probe location |
On Oct 4, 2014, at 2:40 PM, David Joyce <davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk>
wrote:
> Fred, It works nicely just in front of the starboardflap activator
slot, hidden by wing root from sun, but in full contact with outside air
between flap end & fuselage. Starboard to avoid exhaust fumes.
David=85your suggestion much appreciated=85however, you will note in
attached photos that on my ship, the slot gets buried within my enhanced
wing root fairings. I fear that the probe will reach interior cockpit /
aft fuselage temps. Care to comment on whether my fears are justified?=85
Any suggestion (anyone!) for an alternate location=85?...
> PS Before I accept, how big is the kingdom and how surly are the
natives?
My kingdom is a very small part of a small rock in the Salish Sea just
south of Vancouver, B. C., and the natives can be very surly, especially
when they=92re restless.
Fred
>
> On Sat, 4 Oct 2014 14:13:12 -0700
> Fred Klein <fklein@orcasonline.com> wrote:
<fklein@orcasonline.com>
>> All,
>> I offer half my kingdom to anyone who will give me a proven location
for an OAT thermocouple which is part of my =93aftermarket=94 EMS.
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| Subject: | OAT probe location |
Has anyone place an OAT probe at the front of the cowl, recessed within
an opening to keep it out of the sun, and where it would not be subject
to engine heat?=85say somewhere in the slot opening above my port
circular inlet for port radiator?=85(we=92re looking at a liquid cooled
engine installation).
Fred.
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| Subject: | Re: Location of VOR - Nav antenna |
Hi David,
Thanks for the tip regarding the VOR antenna aft of the baggage bay. Makes perfect
sense and easier to get to.
Thanks Ira,
Im lucky that I work for an Avionics company that I can borrow the SWR meter -
I will make good use of it
Regards,
Tony
--------
Tony Vaccarella
Mascot NSW 2020
Sydney Australia
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| Subject: | Re: OAT probe location |
Fred, had not appreciated that you have fancy fairings!
However I guess a nearby position through the lower
surface of the fuselage or the fairing on the starboard
side would serve.
Regards, David
On Sat, 4 Oct 2014 15:17:30 -0700
Fred Klein <fklein@orcasonline.com> wrote:
>
> On Oct 4, 2014, at 2:40 PM, David Joyce
><davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk> wrote:
>
>> Fred, It works nicely just in front of the starboardflap
>>activator slot, hidden by wing root from sun, but in full
>>contact with outside air between flap end & fuselage.
>>Starboard to avoid exhaust fumes.
>
> Davidyour suggestion much appreciatedhowever, you will
>note in attached photos that on my ship, the slot gets
>buried within my enhanced wing root fairings. I fear that
>the probe will reach interior cockpit / aft fuselage
>temps. Care to comment on whether my fears are
>justified?
>
> Any suggestion (anyone!) for an alternate location?...
>
>> PS Before I accept, how big is the kingdom and how surly
>>are the natives?
>
> My kingdom is a very small part of a small rock in the
>Salish Sea just south of Vancouver, B. C., and the
>natives can be very surly, especially when theyre
>restless.
>
>Fred
>>
>> On Sat, 4 Oct 2014 14:13:12 -0700
>> Fred Klein <fklein@orcasonline.com> wrote:
>>><fklein@orcasonline.com>
>>> All,
>>> I offer half my kingdom to anyone who will give me a
>>>proven location for an OAT thermocouple which is part of
>>>my aftermarket EMS.
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: OAT probe location |
Fred, There is the issue of ram air compression raising
the temp. I have an airbox temp sensor as well as the wing
root sensor and although they say the same thing before
engine start, the air box one rises appreciably, possibly
10C in flight. Regards, David, GXSDJ
On Sat, 4 Oct 2014 15:50:54 -0700
Fred Klein <fklein@orcasonline.com> wrote:
> Has anyone place an OAT probe at the front of the cowl,
>recessed within an opening to keep it out of the sun, and
>where it would not be subject to engine heat?say
>somewhere in the slot opening above my port circular
>inlet for port radiator?(were looking at a liquid
>cooled engine installation).
>
>Fred.
>
>
>
>
>
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On Oct 4, 2014, at 10:16 PM, David Joyce <davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk>
wrote:
> a nearby position through the lower surface of the fuselage or the
fairing on the starboard side would serve.
Thank you David.
Best,
Fred
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| Subject: | Fitting a 100HP to Classic |
Gentlemen,
What is required to fit a 100HP Rotax ULS into a Classic Europa?
Thanks for any info/tips/tricks from anyone who has gone down this path.
John Baker.
#181 Classic.
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