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Tue 10/07/14


Total Messages Posted: 8



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     1. 02:16 AM - Re: Roll pin coming out of LG08S + bungee (John Heykoop)
     2. 04:45 AM - Re: Re: Swiss Tony (Trevpond@aol.com)
     3. 04:48 AM - Re: Roll pin coming out of LG08S + bungee (Pete Lawless)
     4. 08:07 AM - Electric Fuel pump (Scudrunner)
     5. 08:25 AM - Re: Electric Fuel pump (Kevin Challis)
     6. 08:43 AM - Re: Electric Fuel pump (Scudrunner)
     7. 12:46 PM - Re: Electric Fuel pump (Bud Yerly)
     8. 06:14 PM - Re: Fitting a 100HP to Classic (Troy Maynor)
 
 
 


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    Time: 02:16:46 AM PST US
    From: John Heykoop <john.heykoop@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Roll pin coming out of LG08S + bungee
    Hi John, to replace the bungee cord you have got a choice. Either remove the engine and the firewall or do the job from underneath via the wheel well. I replaced mine last year via the wheel well. It is a filthy job (particularl y if you have been operating off grass) but it is quick and relatively easy. Start by buying about 30 feet of 3/8" standard type bungee cord. That is a g ood deal more than you are going to need once you have tensioned the cord, b ut it makes the job easier if you have plenty of cord you can pull on. Next use an engine hoist to lift the fuselage off the ground. It is also wor th rigging up secondary supports via the spar tunnel and underneath the tail , just in case anything goes wrong - you don't want the fuselage to come cra shing down on top of you when you are pulling hard on the bungee cord. Next you have to remove the wheel. Remember that the swinging arm will want t o snap into its retracted position when the wheel is removed, so make sure t hat the gear safety catch is engaged. Even so I felt very unsafe, so reachin g over the top of the wheel I cut the bungee cord before actually removing t he wheel. Next remove the LG04 pin and fold the shock absorber assembly out of the way (just secure it with a piece of string). You now have reasonably good acces s to the bungee cord (it helps to have long arms) and it should be easy to r emove the old cord. You can now install the new bungee cord. I found that due to limited space b etween the frame and my Singleton firewall it was fairly difficult to thread through, so I attached some locking wire to the end of the bungee, and pull ed the locking wire with a pair of pliers before grabbing the bungee cord. In order to tension the bungee cord correctly you will have to attach tempor ary weights to the swinging arm to simulate the weight of the wheel and its s tub axles. I used a broomstick as a temporary axle from which I hung two bag s of sand. Hope this helps. Best of luck with this job! Regards John XS mono G-JHKP > On 6 Oct 2014, at 10:21, John Archer <77alembert@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hello, > While changing the shock absorber on my mono wheel I noticed that the 6 mm roll pin that actuates the flaps and outriggers via LG08S had worked it's w ay out of it's hole by about 15 mm (see build manual 21 M-4). I was able to g et a G clamp across the flange and push it back into position and it is a go od fit with no play. > I would however, like to ensure that this doesn't happen again. As the pi n is hollow I was thinking of putting a 3 mm bolt through the pin with Nyloc nuts and washers at each end. Would this be acceptable and has anyone else h ad this problem? > > Changing the shock absorber increased prop clearance by 80 mm as the old " red" one had become "squashed" over time. I had to use clamps to assist put ting the M8 bolts and getting down to 79 MM between plates, this has made th e suspension much harder than previously. I will have a completely differen t aircraft to fly next time out! > > On another subject, how much of what diameter bungee is required for the m ono wheel retraction system and above all, how do you go about replacing it? > > Regards > > John > Mono 192 > > 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >


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    Time: 04:45:06 AM PST US
    From: Trevpond@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Swiss Tony
    I lost over =A310K on my deal for the kit, the deposit (50%) for the 914, Full price for the Airmaster plus the costs for the rest of the aircraft that wasn't delivered. KW should have been jailed for what he did. It's my opinion that the LAA should not use his pictures for the LAA magazine and I intend to second Nev's proposal. Trev G-LINN In a message dated 06/10/2014 22:12:24 GMT Daylight Time, c aptainmarty@bellsouth.net writes: --> Europa-List message posted by: "Martymason" <captainmarty@bellsouth.net> As one who was told personally by KW that the kit was enroute to Florida and several other untruths, I would encourage all who can to deny him the privilage to sell his photographs to do so. Marty Mason Kit 291 Paid for twice! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=431586#431586 ======================== =========== ======================== =========== ======================== =========== ======================== ===========


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    Time: 04:48:21 AM PST US
    From: Pete Lawless <pete@lawless.info>
    Subject: Re: Roll pin coming out of LG08S + bungee
    Hi John If you have a Classic then just remove the exhaust and the stainless steel firewall over the tunnel in the engine bay and you have easy access to change to bungee. Don't forget to check the tension BEFORE reassembly! The gear should retract and drop with almost no effort. Regards Pete On 07/10/14 10:15, John Heykoop wrote: > Hi John, to replace the bungee cord you have got a choice. Either > remove the engine and the firewall or do the job from underneath via > the wheel well. I replaced mine last year via the wheel well. It is a > filthy job (particularly if you have been operating off grass) but it > is quick and relatively easy. > > Start by buying about 30 feet of 3/8" standard type bungee cord. That > is a good deal more than you are going to need once you have tensioned > the cord, but it makes the job easier if you have plenty of cord you > can pull on. > > Next use an engine hoist to lift the fuselage off the ground. It is > also worth rigging up secondary supports via the spar tunnel and > underneath the tail, just in case anything goes wrong - you don't want > the fuselage to come crashing down on top of you when you are pulling > hard on the bungee cord. > > Next you have to remove the wheel. Remember that the swinging arm will > want to snap into its retracted position when the wheel is removed, so > make sure that the gear safety catch is engaged. Even so I felt very > unsafe, so reaching over the top of the wheel I cut the bungee cord > before actually removing the wheel. > > Next remove the LG04 pin and fold the shock absorber assembly out of > the way (just secure it with a piece of string). You now have > reasonably good access to the bungee cord (it helps to have long arms) > and it should be easy to remove the old cord. > > You can now install the new bungee cord. I found that due to limited > space between the frame and my Singleton firewall it was fairly > difficult to thread through, so I attached some locking wire to the > end of the bungee, and pulled the locking wire with a pair of pliers > before grabbing the bungee cord. > > In order to tension the bungee cord correctly you will have to attach > temporary weights to the swinging arm to simulate the weight of the > wheel and its stub axles. I used a broomstick as a temporary axle from > which I hung two bags of sand. > > Hope this helps. Best of luck with this job! > > Regards > John > > XS mono G-JHKP > > > On 6 Oct 2014, at 10:21, John Archer <77alembert@gmail.com > <mailto:77alembert@gmail.com>> wrote: > >> Hello, >> While changing the shock absorber on my mono wheel I noticed that the >> 6 mm roll pin that actuates the flaps and outriggers via LG08S had >> worked it's way out of it's hole by about 15 mm (see build manual 21 >> M-4). I was able to get a G clamp across the flange and push it back >> into position and it is a good fit with no play. >> I would however, like to ensure that this doesn't happen again. As >> the pin is hollow I was thinking of putting a 3 mm bolt through the >> pin with Nyloc nuts and washers at each end. Would this be acceptable >> and has anyone else had this problem? >> >> Changing the shock absorber increased prop clearance by 80 mm as the >> old "red" one had become "squashed" over time. I had to use clamps >> to assist putting the M8 bolts and getting down to 79 MM between >> plates, this has made the suspension much harder than previously. I >> will have a completely different aircraft to fly next time out! >> >> On another subject, how much of what diameter bungee is required for >> the mono wheel retraction system and above all, how do you go about >> replacing it? >> >> Regards >> >> John >> Mono 192 >> * >> >> D============================================ >> a-List"">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List >> D============================================ >> //forums.matronics.com >> D============================================ >> ot;">http://www.matronics.com/contribution >> D============================================ >> >> * > * > > > *


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    Time: 08:07:53 AM PST US
    Subject: Electric Fuel pump
    From: "Scudrunner" <howardbrooksster@gmail.com>
    My Classic Monowheel 1st flew in 1996, and I'm wondering if the facet electric fule pump is now starting to show its age. I have a fuel pressure guage that measures at the carb inlets and always test the electric pump before starting the engine. I don't remember the units here and now, but I get only a 20% deflection relative to the pressure I get from the mechanical pump (engine running). But then I guess that the stationary mechanical pump will restrict the fuel pressure with the engine stationary? Anyway, I just wondered if anyone else has a fuel pressure guage similarly fitted and can advise on what pressure they see from the facet only? Thanks Howard Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=431605#431605


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    Time: 08:25:15 AM PST US
    From: Kevin Challis <cakeykev@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Electric Fuel pump
    I get a higher pressure with the electric pump on and the engine stopped than with just the engine running and no electric pump. Does that help? Kevin Challis > On 7 Oct 2014, at 16:07, Scudrunner <howardbrooksster@gmail.com> wrote: > > > My Classic Monowheel 1st flew in 1996, and I'm wondering if the facet electric fule pump is now starting to show its age. > > I have a fuel pressure guage that measures at the carb inlets and always test the electric pump before starting the engine. I don't remember the units here and now, but I get only a 20% deflection relative to the pressure I get from the mechanical pump (engine running). But then I guess that the stationary mechanical pump will restrict the fuel pressure with the engine stationary? > > Anyway, I just wondered if anyone else has a fuel pressure guage similarly fitted and can advise on what pressure they see from the facet only? > > Thanks > > > Howard > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=431605#431605 > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 08:43:34 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Electric Fuel pump
    From: "Scudrunner" <howardbrooksster@gmail.com>
    Thanks Kevin, that does suggest that my electric pump is on its way out! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=431609#431609


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    Time: 12:46:49 PM PST US
    From: "Bud Yerly" <budyerly@msn.com>
    Subject: Re: Electric Fuel pump
    Howard, Facet fuel pump required is the 40106 which delivers between 4 and 7 psi depending on high flow or low flow, that is no restriction, high restriction. You should be seeing about 7 psi. Use a fuel pressure guage to assure the sender is working properly. Aircraft Spruce has them in stock: PN 40106 12 volt 4-7 Psi, 32gph and will lift fuel at least 12 inches. Price about $37US. Regards, Bud Yerly Facet No. Volts PSI Max-Min GPH Fitting Size Lift Min. Dry Check Valve Position Shut Off Valve Description Part Number Price 40106 12 7.0-4.0 32 1/8 - 27 INT 12" N N Facet Solid State Fuel Pump 40106 $36.65 40106 12 7.0-4.0 32 1/8 - 27 INT 12" N N Facet Solid State Fuel Pump 40106 $36.65 ----- Original Message ----- From: Scudrunner<mailto:howardbrooksster@gmail.com> To: europa-list@matronics.com<mailto:europa-list@matronics.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2014 11:07 AM Subject: Europa-List: Electric Fuel pump <howardbrooksster@gmail.com<mailto:howardbrooksster@gmail.com>> My Classic Monowheel 1st flew in 1996, and I'm wondering if the facet electric fule pump is now starting to show its age. I have a fuel pressure guage that measures at the carb inlets and always test the electric pump before starting the engine. I don't remember the units here and now, but I get only a 20% deflection relative to the pressure I get from the mechanical pump (engine running). But then I guess that the stationary mechanical pump will restrict the fuel pressure with the engine stationary? Anyway, I just wondered if anyone else has a fuel pressure guage similarly fitted and can advise on what pressure they see from the facet only? Thanks Howard Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=431605#431605<http://forums .matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=431605#431605> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List<http://www.matronics.com/N avigator?Europa-List> http://www.matronics.com/contribution<http://www.matronics.com/contributi on>


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    Time: 06:14:52 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Fitting a 100HP to Classic
    From: "Troy Maynor" <wingnut54@charter.net>
    Hi, I second what Dave says about the starter. The heavy duty one that now comes on the 912S hits the classic fwf mount. An alternative to the soft start system that has worked fine for me for 4 years is to wire the ACS start switch that I installed to where when you turn it to the "Start" position one mag is grounded allowing the engine to only start on one mag. The instant you release the switch both mags are on line. I've never had any kick back with the small starter and a 4 year old battery. Thinking I may change the battery this year even though it still spins up the engine fine. It's the Odyssey 680 I believe. FWIW Troy Maynor UK120 250 hours (slow year) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=431636#431636




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