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1. 12:31 AM - Re: Gas spring effort (John Wighton)
2. 12:46 AM - Re: Gas spring effort (Peter Jeffers)
3. 01:03 AM - Re: Gas spring effort (Kevin Challis)
4. 01:42 AM - Re: 57 minuts on 13 ltrs on a 914 (Alan Carter)
5. 01:44 AM - Re: Gas spring effort (David Watts)
6. 01:44 AM - Re: Gas spring effort (Bob Harrison)
7. 02:24 AM - Re: Gas spring effort (John Wighton)
8. 05:33 AM - Re: Gas spring effort (Pete Lawless)
9. 05:56 AM - Re: Re: Gas spring effort (Karl Heindl)
10. 06:31 AM - Re: Gas spring effort (Bob Harrison)
11. 09:48 AM - Re: Re: Gas spring effort (AUVRAY Michel)
12. 10:11 AM - Re: Re: Gas spring effort (Karl Heindl)
13. 01:46 PM - Re: Gas spring effort (Alan Carter)
14. 02:03 PM - Walking The Line (Alan Carter)
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16. 02:40 PM - Re: Walking The Line (Alan Carter)
17. 02:59 PM - Crimping terminals (Steven Pitt)
18. 03:32 PM - Re: Crimping terminals (Pete)
19. 03:38 PM - Re: Re: Gas spring effort (Karl Heindl)
20. 03:43 PM - Re: Re: Gas spring effort (Christoph Both)
21. 03:56 PM - Re: Re: Gas spring effort (Karl Heindl)
22. 05:28 PM - Re: Gas spring effort (Dean Seitz)
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Subject: | Please Make a Contribution to Support Your Lists... |
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Subject: | Re: Gas spring effort |
Interested in the door strut stiffness (it is not a load). Mine are weak and need
refurb/change. I take it the values given in lbf are per inch (i.e. 50lbf/in)?
Bud uses Newtons (is that 26N/mm Bud?) which works out at around 148
lbf/in which seems high (especially for Florida climate).
I never experienced significant door distortion and have attributed that in other
planes to overly stiff struts.
The pressure fill value of 1400psi is useful as that gives the refurb company a
value they can use.
Where is this place in Surrey Kevin?
regards
JW
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John Wighton
Europa XS trigear G-IPOD
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Subject: | Gas spring effort |
Hi Kevin,
Useful info but phone no and/or name of company would be handy.
Pete
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Challis
Sent: 07 November 2014 06:28
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Gas spring effort
Factory is about 2 miles away from my house they refurb them. Sutton, Surrey.
It was a friend who told me they were there I didn't know.
It makes a massive difference. No more being bashed on the head.
Kevin Challis
G ODJG
912S Tri gear
> On 7 Nov 2014, at 01:45, Paul McAllister <paul.the.aviator@gmail.com> wrote:
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> --> <paul.the.aviator@gmail.com>
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> Hi Dean, where did you get yours refilled. I couldn't find anyone to
> do it and ended up buying new ones. - Paul
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dean
> Seitz
> Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2014 7:23 AM
> To: europa-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Europa-List: Gas spring effort
>
>
> I just refilled mine. They were at about 38lbs and saging. I filled them to about
1400psi which came out to about 60lbs. They feel a little stiff but I have
not felt a new one in a long time. 50lbs may be OK but at 60 it work fine.
>
> Dean Seitz
>
>
> ---- AUVRAY Michel <mau11@orange.fr> wrote:
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>> Doe's anyony know the spring load (lb) of door gas spring ?
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>> Many thanks
>> Michel AUVRAY
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Subject: | Re: Gas spring effort |
I thought you would ask that.
Just because I have been there doesn't mean I can remember :-)
I am away at the moment for a few days I will look it up when I get home. My friend
might reply? He arranged it for both of our sets.
Kevin Challis
> On 7 Nov 2014, at 08:46, Peter Jeffers <pjeffers@talktalk.net> wrote:
>
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> Hi Kevin,
> Useful info but phone no and/or name of company would be handy.
> Pete
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Challis
> Sent: 07 November 2014 06:28
> To: europa-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Europa-List: Gas spring effort
>
>
> Factory is about 2 miles away from my house they refurb them. Sutton, Surrey.
>
> It was a friend who told me they were there I didn't know.
>
> It makes a massive difference. No more being bashed on the head.
>
> Kevin Challis
> G ODJG
> 912S Tri gear
>
>
>> On 7 Nov 2014, at 01:45, Paul McAllister <paul.the.aviator@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> --> <paul.the.aviator@gmail.com>
>>
>> Hi Dean, where did you get yours refilled. I couldn't find anyone to
>> do it and ended up buying new ones. - Paul
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dean
>> Seitz
>> Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2014 7:23 AM
>> To: europa-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: Re: Europa-List: Gas spring effort
>>
>>
>> I just refilled mine. They were at about 38lbs and saging. I filled them to
about 1400psi which came out to about 60lbs. They feel a little stiff but I have
not felt a new one in a long time. 50lbs may be OK but at 60 it work fine.
>>
>> Dean Seitz
>>
>>
>> ---- AUVRAY Michel <mau11@orange.fr> wrote:
>>>
>>> Doe's anyony know the spring load (lb) of door gas spring ?
>>>
>>> Many thanks
>>> Michel AUVRAY
>>>
>>> ---
>>> Ce courrier lectronique ne contient aucun virus ou logiciel malveillant parce
que la protection avast! Antivirus est active.
>>> http://www.avast.com
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Subject: | Re: 57 minuts on 13 ltrs on a 914 |
Hi Bill.
I am not sure Bill but it around 28 to 29, about 110/115 kts, Its a really good
consumption, for a Tri Gear .Surprised me, must be a good engine 550 hours.
I have flow 3 times all about 57, 61 minutes air bourn and refilled to the neck
of the filler. I can not give you a cruise burn as I have not got the flow meter
set up correctly yet. But I do know what I put in the tank to refill it.
Alan
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Subject: | Re: Gas spring effort |
Hi all,
Kevin's friend here, aka Dave Watts.
The firm are the original suppliers to Europa and are:-
Industrial Gas Springs Ltd
22 Wates Way
Mitcham
Surrey
CR44HR
Phone 02086466595
They charged us 5 per unit plus post and packing.
There was a note on the invoice to say that the units had been charged to 185 Newtons.
Dave Watts G-BXDY
> On 7 Nov 2014, at 09:03, Kevin Challis <cakeykev@gmail.com> wrote:
>
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> I thought you would ask that.
>
> Just because I have been there doesn't mean I can remember :-)
>
> I am away at the moment for a few days I will look it up when I get home. My
friend might reply? He arranged it for both of our sets.
>
> Kevin Challis
>
>
>> On 7 Nov 2014, at 08:46, Peter Jeffers <pjeffers@talktalk.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Hi Kevin,
>> Useful info but phone no and/or name of company would be handy.
>> Pete
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Challis
>> Sent: 07 November 2014 06:28
>> To: europa-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: Re: Europa-List: Gas spring effort
>>
>>
>> Factory is about 2 miles away from my house they refurb them. Sutton, Surrey.
>>
>> It was a friend who told me they were there I didn't know.
>>
>> It makes a massive difference. No more being bashed on the head.
>>
>> Kevin Challis
>> G ODJG
>> 912S Tri gear
>>
>>
>>> On 7 Nov 2014, at 01:45, Paul McAllister <paul.the.aviator@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> --> <paul.the.aviator@gmail.com>
>>>
>>> Hi Dean, where did you get yours refilled. I couldn't find anyone to
>>> do it and ended up buying new ones. - Paul
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
>>> [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dean
>>> Seitz
>>> Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2014 7:23 AM
>>> To: europa-list@matronics.com
>>> Subject: Re: Europa-List: Gas spring effort
>>>
>>>
>>> I just refilled mine. They were at about 38lbs and saging. I filled them to
about 1400psi which came out to about 60lbs. They feel a little stiff but I have
not felt a new one in a long time. 50lbs may be OK but at 60 it work fine.
>>>
>>> Dean Seitz
>>>
>>>
>>> ---- AUVRAY Michel <mau11@orange.fr> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Doe's anyony know the spring load (lb) of door gas spring ?
>>>>
>>>> Many thanks
>>>> Michel AUVRAY
>>>>
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Subject: | Gas spring effort |
Hi! All
Industrial Gas Springs provide a refill/re-charge service, very obliging outfit
and very competitive:-
Industrial Gas Springs Limited
A wholly owned subsidiary of Swan Investments Group
Incorporating Inflite Engineering Services
22 Wates Way, Mitcham, Surrey CR4 4HR
United Kingdom
Tel: 020 8646 6596 - Fax: 020 8646 6594
International Tel: +44 20 8646 6596
I had mine done some time ago still OK . They will also provide new ball ends with
the service.
Regards to all
Bob Harrison G-PTAG
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Paul McAllister
Sent: 07 November 2014 01:46
Subject: RE: Europa-List: Gas spring effort
--> <paul.the.aviator@gmail.com>
Hi Dean, where did you get yours refilled. I couldn't find anyone to do it and
ended up buying new ones. - Paul
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dean Seitz
Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2014 7:23 AM
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Gas spring effort
I just refilled mine. They were at about 38lbs and saging. I filled them to about
1400psi which came out to about 60lbs. They feel a little stiff but I have
not felt a new one in a long time. 50lbs may be OK but at 60 it work fine.
Dean Seitz
---- AUVRAY Michel <mau11@orange.fr> wrote:
>
> Doe's anyony know the spring load (lb) of door gas spring ?
>
> Many thanks
> Michel AUVRAY
>
> ---
> Ce courrier lectronique ne contient aucun virus ou logiciel malveillant parce
que la protection avast! Antivirus est active.
> http://www.avast.com
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Subject: | Re: Gas spring effort |
Excellent response - thanks to all. And the details all correlate! One time before
l used company details offered from the forum to find it was a knitting
shop instead of an upholsterer.
regards
JW
Do not archive.
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John Wighton
Europa XS trigear G-IPOD
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Subject: | Re: Gas spring effort |
Hi Bob
Thanks for the contact info. What load did you get your struts set to?
Regards
Pete
G-RMAC #109
On 07/11/14 09:43, Bob Harrison wrote:
>
> Hi! All
> Industrial Gas Springs provide a refill/re-charge service, very obliging outfit
and very competitive:-
>
> Industrial Gas Springs Limited
> A wholly owned subsidiary of Swan Investments Group
> Incorporating Inflite Engineering Services
>
> 22 Wates Way, Mitcham, Surrey CR4 4HR
> United Kingdom
>
> Tel: 020 8646 6596 - Fax: 020 8646 6594
> International Tel: +44 20 8646 6596
>
> I had mine done some time ago still OK . They will also provide new ball ends
with the service.
> Regards to all
> Bob Harrison G-PTAG
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Paul McAllister
> Sent: 07 November 2014 01:46
> To:europa-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: Europa-List: Gas spring effort
>
> --><paul.the.aviator@gmail.com>
>
> Hi Dean, where did you get yours refilled. I couldn't find anyone to do it and
ended up buying new ones. - Paul
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dean Seitz
> Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2014 7:23 AM
> To:europa-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Europa-List: Gas spring effort
>
>
> I just refilled mine. They were at about 38lbs and saging. I filled them to about
1400psi which came out to about 60lbs. They feel a little stiff but I have
not felt a new one in a long time. 50lbs may be OK but at 60 it work fine.
>
> Dean Seitz
>
>
> ---- AUVRAY Michel<mau11@orange.fr> wrote:
>>
>> Doe's anyony know the spring load (lb) of door gas spring ?
>>
>> Many thanks
>> Michel AUVRAY
>>
>> ---
>> Ce courrier lectronique ne contient aucun virus ou logiciel malveillant parce
que la protection avast! Antivirus est active.
>> http://www.avast.com
>>
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Subject: | Re: Gas spring effort |
Another option is to use adjustable gas struts. Pressure adjustable from 20
to 400 (Newtons?).Cost =A3 14.50 for the steel version. Also available in
stainless.Karl
> Subject: Europa-List: Re: Gas spring effort
> From: john@wighton.net
> Date: Fri=2C 7 Nov 2014 00:30:57 -0800
> To: europa-list@matronics.com
>
>
> Interested in the door strut stiffness (it is not a load). Mine are weak
and need refurb/change. I take it the values given in lbf are per inch (
i.e. 50lbf/in)? Bud uses Newtons (is that 26N/mm Bud?) which works out at
around 148 lbf/in which seems high (especially for Florida climate).
>
> I never experienced significant door distortion and have attributed that
in other planes to overly stiff struts.
>
> The pressure fill value of 1400psi is useful as that gives the refurb com
pany a value they can use.
>
> Where is this place in Surrey Kevin?
>
> regards
> JW
>
> --------
> John Wighton
> Europa XS trigear G-IPOD
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Subject: | Gas spring effort |
Hi! Pete,
The struts are made by them so they pressure them up to design performance ( In
other words I didn't ask even !) However I have done the mod. that revises the
mounting further down the door so eliminating the pressure reaction upwards
on the door rear corner and re-enforcing of the door rear frame.
Regards
Bob H G-PTAG
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Pete Lawless
Sent: 07 November 2014 13:33
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Gas spring effort
Hi Bob
Thanks for the contact info. What load did you get your struts set to?
Regards
Pete
G-RMAC #109
On 07/11/14 09:43, Bob Harrison wrote:
> --> Harrison"<ptag.dev@talktalk.net>
>
> Hi! All
> Industrial Gas Springs provide a refill/re-charge service, very
> obliging outfit and very competitive:-
>
> Industrial Gas Springs Limited
> A wholly owned subsidiary of Swan Investments Group Incorporating
> Inflite Engineering Services
>
> 22 Wates Way, Mitcham, Surrey CR4 4HR
> United Kingdom
>
> Tel: 020 8646 6596 - Fax: 020 8646 6594 International Tel: +44 20 8646
> 6596
>
> I had mine done some time ago still OK . They will also provide new ball ends
with the service.
> Regards to all
> Bob Harrison G-PTAG
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Paul
> McAllister
> Sent: 07 November 2014 01:46
> To:europa-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: Europa-List: Gas spring effort
>
> --><paul.the.aviator@gmail.com>
>
> Hi Dean, where did you get yours refilled. I couldn't find anyone to
> do it and ended up buying new ones. - Paul
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dean
> Seitz
> Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2014 7:23 AM To:europa-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Europa-List: Gas spring effort
>
>
> I just refilled mine. They were at about 38lbs and saging. I filled them to about
1400psi which came out to about 60lbs. They feel a little stiff but I have
not felt a new one in a long time. 50lbs may be OK but at 60 it work fine.
>
> Dean Seitz
>
>
> ---- AUVRAY Michel<mau11@orange.fr> wrote:
>>
>> Doe's anyony know the spring load (lb) of door gas spring ?
>>
>> Many thanks
>> Michel AUVRAY
>>
>> ---
>> Ce courrier lectronique ne contient aucun virus ou logiciel malveillant parce
que la protection avast! Antivirus est active.
>> http://www.avast.com
>>
>>
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>>
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Subject: | Re: Gas spring effort |
Many thanks Karl,
Where it is possible to buy?
Is it possible you send to me an adress
Michel AUVRAY
Builder 145
Le 07/11/2014 14:55, Karl Heindl a crit :
> *Another option is to use adjustable gas struts. Pressure adjustable
> from 20 to 400 (Newtons?).*
> *Cost 14.50 for the steel version. Also available in stainless.*
> *Karl
> *
> > Subject: Europa-List: Re: Gas spring effort
> > From: john@wighton.net
> > Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2014 00:30:57 -0800
> > To: europa-list@matronics.com
> >
> >
> > Interested in the door strut stiffness (it is not a load). Mine are
> weak and need refurb/change. I take it the values given in lbf are per
> inch (i.e. 50lbf/in)? Bud uses Newtons (is that 26N/mm Bud?) which
> works out at around 148 lbf/in which seems high (especially for
> Florida climate).
> >
> > I never experienced significant door distortion and have attributed
> that in other planes to overly stiff struts.
> >
> > The pressure fill value of 1400psi is useful as that gives the
> refurb company a value they can use.
> >
> > Where is this place in Surrey Kevin?
> >
> > regards
> > JW
> >
> > --------
> > John Wighton
> > Europa XS trigear G-IPOD
> >
> >
> >
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> > Read this topic online here:
> >
> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=433101#433101
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Subject: | Re: Gas spring effort |
Michel=2C
Look at www.wdsltd.co.uk. I think the correct part number is 550-0615100 f
or the steel version.I am sure they will ship to France.Karl
From: mau11@orange.fr
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Subject: | Re: Gas spring effort |
Hi Karl.
I see the adjustable gas struts,
They look from the photo a little thicker in diameter than the original struts
?, do they fit. the Europa OK,
Also, 20 to 200, how you set the pressure, lowering it, then increasing it.?
Price is 14.50
My Doors, One has been modified to the centre position and the other at the top
corner, Both have suffered the door being distorted. I need to modify the other
one to the center position.
Alan
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Subject: | Walking The Line |
Hi ALL.
I can disorientate a person in under 3 minutes, So how can this Tightrope walker,
walk a wire stretched between two sky scrapper blindfolded.
The brain needs reference information to lock onto , or does it.????
Does he have some Electronic Geo reference information feed to him by wireless,???
Regards.
Alan
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Subject: | Re: Walking The Line |
Easy he had a couple of points first !!!!
Alan Carter wrote:
Hi ALL.
I can disorientate a person in under 3 minutes, So how can this Tightrope walker,
walk a wire stretched between two sky scrapper blindfolded.
The brain needs reference information to lock onto , or does it.????
Does he have some Electronic Geo reference information feed to him by wireless,???
Regards.
Alan
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Subject: | Re: Walking The Line |
Hi Danny.
Not How that would work.
Or did you mean he had a couple of pints first, Now that might work.
Alan
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Subject: | Crimping terminals |
I am getting ready to make up the wiring harnes for my new Trig radio and
transponder and see that they use MIL -C-24308 connectors with M39029/63-368
crimped pins. The recommendation is to use the DMC AFM8 crimping tool, which
seems expensive. Has anyone used a more modest crimping tool with success?
Regards
Steve Pitt
G-SMDH
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Subject: | Re: Crimping terminals |
I was a rebel and went with solder cups for my trig pair, which I then reduxd for
stability and fatigue prevention. So far, so good :-)
Cheers,
Pete
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> On Nov 7, 2014, at 5:58 PM, Steven Pitt <steven.pitt2@ntlworld.com> wrote:
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and see that they use MIL -C-24308 connectors with M39029/63-368 crimped
pins. The recommendation is to use the DMC AFM8 crimping tool, which seems
expensive. Has anyone used a more modest crimping tool with success?
> Regards
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Subject: | Re: Gas spring effort |
Hi Alan=2C
I will be ordering a couple when I am in the UK. The measurements are exact
ly the same as the ones that came with the kit=2C i.e. diameter 15mm =2C le
ngth 300-310mm=2C the diameter of the 'piston' rod is 6mm=2C and its length
100mm.You adjust the pressure (20-400 btw) by turning a screw at one end (
see diagram).Cheers=2CKarl
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> From: alancarteresq@onetel.net
> Date: Fri=2C 7 Nov 2014 13:45:15 -0800
> To: europa-list@matronics.com
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> I see the adjustable gas struts=2C
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truts ?=2C do they fit. the Europa OK=2C
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easing it.?
> Price is =C2=A314.50
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> My Doors=2C One has been modified to the centre position and the other at
the top corner=2C Both have suffered the door being distorted. I need to m
odify the other one to the center position.
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Subject: | Re: Gas spring effort |
Hallo Karl,
I would be interested in a pair of these as well.
Danke!
Christoph
Sent from my iPhone
On Nov 7, 2014, at 19:38, "Karl Heindl" <kheindl@msn.com<mailto:kheindl@msn
.com>> wrote:
Hi Alan,
I will be ordering a couple when I am in the UK. The measurements are exact
ly the same as the ones that came with the kit, i.e. diameter 15mm , length
300-310mm, the diameter of the 'piston' rod is 6mm, and its length 100mm.
You adjust the pressure (20-400 btw) by turning a screw at one end (see dia
gram).
Cheers,
Karl
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> Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2014 13:45:15 -0800
> To: europa-list@matronics.com<mailto:europa-list@matronics.com>
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> Hi Karl.
> I see the adjustable gas struts,
> They look from the photo a little thicker in diameter than the original s
truts ?, do they fit. the Europa OK,
> Also, 20 to 200, how you set the pressure, lowering it, then increasing i
t.?
> Price is =A314.50
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> My Doors, One has been modified to the centre position and the other at t
he top corner, Both have suffered the door being distorted. I need to modif
y the other one to the center position.
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No problem. we'll talk before I leave.Karl
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Subject: | Gas spring effort |
I made an adapter to fit in the end of the spring with an oring. Used a bottle
with over 1500lbs. 38lbs was measured on a bathroom scale pushing the spring down
on it. 60lbs after filling.
If you check into adjustable ones they are filled to a max pressure and then you
let out the amount of pressure to meet your strength requirements.
The basic formula for the strength is psi times area of piston in sq inches. There
are some other variables but they don't make enough difference to matter here.
So the piston is around .05sq in times 1400 equals 70lbs. I didn't have the
ability to measure the pressure exactly so it could have been more like 1300psi.
Dean Seitz
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> I just refilled mine. They were at about 38lbs and saging. I filled them to about
1400psi which came out to about 60lbs. They feel a little stiff but I have
not felt a new one in a long time. 50lbs may be OK but at 60 it work fine.
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