---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 11/08/14: 13 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:49 AM - Re: Crimping terminals (Alan Burrill) 2. 01:22 AM - Re: Gas spring effort - try Europa Aircraft (stephan cassel) 3. 01:56 AM - Re: Crimping terminals (davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk) 4. 01:58 AM - Re: Crimping terminals (Rowland Carson) 5. 02:37 AM - Re: Re: Walking The Line (danny shepherd) 6. 03:11 AM - Re: Gas spring effort (Alan Carter) 7. 03:57 AM - Re: Crimping terminals (Rick Moss) 8. 04:52 AM - Re: Re: Gas spring effort (Richard Collings) 9. 07:31 AM - Re: Re: Crimping terminals (Steven Pitt) 10. 09:30 AM - Re: Gas spring effort (Alan Carter) 11. 10:34 AM - Re: Re: Gas spring effort (David Watts) 12. 01:08 PM - Re: Gas spring effort (Alan Carter) 13. 04:44 PM - Gas Struts (Bryan Allsop) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:49:06 AM PST US From: Alan Burrill Subject: Re: Europa-List: Crimping terminals Anyone used the E300-015 Closed Barrel Crimper from Light Aero Spares? Alan > On 7 Nov 2014, at 22:58, Steven Pitt wrote: > > DMC AFM8 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 01:22:59 AM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: Gas spring effort - try Europa Aircraft From: stephan cassel Hi all, If possible, I would first try Europa Aircraft. I normally buy parts from Europa Aircraft. Karen at EA is very helpful and my orders has been received within one week. I think it is very important to support EA as much as possible. They also sell vital parts that we cannot find at a general hardware and tool store. Gas strut: http://www.europa-aircraft.com/parts/spares.php Part no: GS8699-1 Price: =C2=A347.76 Best regards Stephan Cassel LN-STE Mono ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 01:56:05 AM PST US From: davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk Subject: Re: Europa-List: Crimping terminals Steve, When recently replacing my Garmin SL30 with the 8.33 version, it called for a crimping tool costing around 600 to crimp the ? High density mini pins. I borrowed Rowland's 30 version and took some trial bits along to RGV. They showed me how the wire easily pulled out of the cheap crimping but not from their expensive one, so it was worth using the expensive one. They very kindly lent me their spare one but it could very well be that your nearest avionics set up would at least do you a set of crimps on likely lengths of wire. Regards, David On 2014-11-07 22:58, Steven Pitt wrote: > > I am getting ready to make up the wiring harnes for my new Trig radio and transponder and see that they use MIL -C-24308 connectors with M39029/63-368 crimped pins. The recommendation is to use the DMC AFM8 crimping tool, which seems expensive. Has anyone used a more modest crimping tool with success? > Regards > Steve Pitt > G-SMDH > Links: ------ [1] http://www.aeroelectric.com [2] http://www.buildersbooks.com [3] http://www.homebuilthelp.com [4] http://www.mypilotstore.com [5] http://www.mrrace.com [6] http://www.matronics.com/contribution [7] http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List [8] http://forums.matronics.com ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 01:58:51 AM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: Crimping terminals From: Rowland Carson On 8 Nov 2014, at 08:48, Alan Burrill wrote: > Anyone used the E300-015 Closed Barrel Crimper from Light Aero Spares? Ive got a crimper that appears identical. I got mine from Stein Air in USA ; I dont think LAS stocked it at that time. Stein Air also stock the more expensive one that needs positioners for each type of contact; it will also do the high-density contacts that the cheaper tool above will not. Opinions vary! Ive found mine satisfactory for standard D-submin contacts, and I always give the wires a pull after crimping to assure security. I used it on my Trig transponder connectors. Tim Houlihan (who has mine on loan at present) is also satisfied with its performance. However, (Dr) David Joyce borrowed mine a while back and reported that the crimps he made with it did not pass the pull test, so he borrowed a much more expensive tool from a professional wiring shop and was much happier with the results. in friendship Rowland | Rowland Carson ... that's Rowland with a 'w' ... | http://www.rowlandcarson.org.uk | Skype, Twitter: rowland_carson Facebook: Rowland Carson | pictures: http://picasaweb.google.com/rowlandcarson ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 02:37:07 AM PST US From: danny shepherd Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Walking The Line I think I had a couple of pints last night :-) . Danny. On 07/11/2014 22:40, Alan Carter wrote: > > Hi Danny. > Not How that would work. > Or did you mean he had a couple of pints first, Now that might work. > Alan > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=433137#433137 > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 03:11:34 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: Gas spring effort From: "Alan Carter" Hi Many Thanks. So they come with 200lbs in them, and you just let the pressure out until it feels right. If you get it wrong. Can you re pressurize say using an adaptor and foot pump maybe get up to 70 psi, the units pressure screw would need to be the sort that allows air in and seals and locks. as well as letting air out. Alan Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=433155#433155 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 03:57:09 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: Crimping terminals From: "Rick Moss" I also just fitted a pair of Trigs to my Europa; I bought them from AirworldUK, and they supplied pre-wired harnesses FOC. They were very nicely made and properly screened where required, all in tefzel cable. I know anothers who bought the harnesses from them separately for a modest cost (under 100 for both). If the tool costs more than this, it may be worth a phonecall? Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=433156#433156 ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 04:52:07 AM PST US From: "Richard Collings" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Gas spring effort Alan You can have them re-pressurised by the original supplier, Industrial Gas Spring Ltd, 22 Wates Way, Mitcham, Surrey. CR4 4HR. Contact James Godbold Tel 02086466594 email james@igsltd.co.uk. Mine were done in 2 weeks for very little cost but delivery was expensive, as you are closer you could consider picking them up after. They were recharged to 190N and are fine. By the way they are not pressurised with air but nitrogen. -----Original Message----- From: Alan Carter Sent: Saturday, November 8, 2014 11:10 AM Subject: Europa-List: Re: Gas spring effort Hi Many Thanks. So they come with 200lbs in them, and you just let the pressure out until it feels right. If you get it wrong. Can you re pressurize say using an adaptor and foot pump maybe get up to 70 psi, the units pressure screw would need to be the sort that allows air in and seals and locks. as well as letting air out. Alan Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=433155#433155 ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 07:31:47 AM PST US From: "Steven Pitt" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Crimping terminals Gentlemen, Thank you for all your replies and I had looked at Stein Air and their cheaper crimper as several You Tube clips said they were as good at our end of the market as the more expensive. If Tim has finished with Rowland's by our Committee meeting could I borrow them please Rowland? Regards Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick Moss" Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2014 11:56 AM Subject: Europa-List: Re: Crimping terminals > > I also just fitted a pair of Trigs to my Europa; I bought them from > AirworldUK, and they supplied pre-wired harnesses FOC. They were very > nicely made and properly screened where required, all in tefzel cable. > > I know anothers who bought the harnesses from them separately for a modest > cost (under 100 for both). If the tool costs more than this, it may be > worth a phonecall? > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=433156#433156 > > > ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 09:30:15 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: Gas spring effort From: "Alan Carter" Hi Richard. I will give them a call on Monday, if they could be done while I Waite, I could drive up there. Nitrogen, Well can you purchase Nitrogen in about the same size as a aerosol paint spray so as to top up these adjustable gas struts,?? Alan Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=433164#433164 ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 10:34:42 AM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Gas spring effort From: David Watts Alan, They probably won't do it while you wait. I tried that when I had ours done and they said it was impossible. Dave Watts G-BXDY > On 8 Nov 2014, at 17:29, Alan Carter wrote: > > > Hi Richard. > I will give them a call on Monday, if they could be done while I Waite, I could drive up there. > Nitrogen, > Well can you purchase Nitrogen in about the same size as a aerosol paint spray so as to top up these adjustable gas struts,?? > > Alan > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=433164#433164 > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 01:08:01 PM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: Gas spring effort From: "Alan Carter" Thanks for that. so its a 2 trip job, Still want to know about Nitrogen DIY refilling, on the adjustable struts. Anybody, Alan Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=433171#433171 ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 04:44:06 PM PST US From: Bryan Allsop Subject: Europa-List: Gas Struts If all else fails I bought two for 18 pounds each plus tax from SGS in Derb y=2C UK. The call them the Europa strut and they are loaded at 45 psi. Next day delivery in the UK. Try : sales@sgs-engineering.com Or Google their web page. 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