---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 11/20/14: 3 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 02:48 AM - Re: Re: Ampreg 22, not approved by Europa?? (GRAHAM SINGLETON) 2. 03:08 AM - FW: congrats to Brain Davies (Peter Jeffers) 3. 12:18 PM - firewall mountings and penetrations (Rowland Carson) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 02:48:57 AM PST US From: GRAHAM SINGLETON Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Ampreg 22, not approved by Europa?? Tony=0A=0A=0AIt's available in the USA as MGS,=0AGraham=0A=0A=0A=0A1-877-77 3-7336- |- sales@compositescanada.com=0A=0AMGS Epoxy 285 + Hardener H28 5/H287=0ALow viscosity, low toxicity laminating =0Aresin approved by the Ge rman Federal Aviation Authority. Excellent =0Amechanical and wet-out proper ties. Will not spill out from fabric on =0Avertical surfaces. Will maintain mechanical properties up to 210 F if =0Apost-cured. Mix ratio is 100:50 by volume and 100:40 by weight. =0AHardeners 285 and 287 can be blended to ob tain optimum working time. =0AWorking time @ 20 C = 2-3 hours (285) or 5- 6 hours (287).=0ASizes: 1.5 gallon kit, 6 gallon kit.=0A=0A=0A_____________ ___________________=0A From: Tony Renshaw =0ATo: "europa-list@matronics.com" =0ASent: Thursday, 20 November 2014, 3:38=0ASubject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Ampreg 22, not appro ved by Europa??=0A =0A=0A=0AThanks Graham,=0AI will see if it the Schueffle r is available downunder. A little shocked Ampreg 22 can have a Europa form ation on the Technical Data Sheet but not be approved.-=0ARegards=0ATony R.=0A=0ASent from my iPad=0A=0AOn 20 Nov 2014, at 9:34 am, GRAHAM SINGLETON wrote:=0A=0A=0ASchueffler L285/H286 is th e best of the buch. Much more user friendly, less toxic, better wetting=0A> and it's approved for certified aircraft.=0A>Graham=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A> =0A>________________________________=0A> From: Clive Sutton =0A>To: europa-list@matronics.com =0A>Sent: Wednesday, 19 Novemb er 2014, 21:48=0A>Subject: Europa-List: Re: Ampreg 22, not approved by Euro af@googlemail.com>=0A>=0A>Confirmed in a telephone call to AD at the UK's L AA a week or two ago, West Systems 105/205 would seem to be approved - MOD7 4 instruction leaflet top of page 2 refers: =0A>=0A>". . . acceptable alter native structural epoxy resin systems may be used. Some suitable alternativ es are Schueffler L285/H286, West Systems 105/205 and Aeropoxy PR2032/PH366 0. 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You have a difficult act to follow but i am sure you are more than up for it. Pete From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of DAVID JOYCE Sent: 18 November 2014 20:34 Subject: Europa-List: congrats to Brain Davies Congrats Brian on your new appointment.... LAA Chairman rgds DJ Sent to you by David Joyce www.eastmidsspas.com No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 12:18:00 PM PST US From: Rowland Carson Subject: Europa-List: firewall mountings and penetrations Im thinking about where some of the things that are mounted on or penetrate the firewall would be best located. Obviously there are some things like the throttle and choke cables that have to go through in a certain area to maintain a smooth line, but other things seem to have no specific constraints, just a lot of interdependencies. For instance, Id like to settle on a position for mounting the forest of tabs (from B&C Specialty) that Im using for all ground connexions (so I know how long the wires to it, including service loops, should be). However, I dont want to drill holes for that and then find its going to be obstructed by the battery or get in the way of the nicest line for the hose from the vacuum pump. (Thinking again about the battery, I seem to recall that most folk mount them on top of the starboard footwell, because theres nothing likely to be coming through the firewall above the sandwich shelf - Bobs photo mentioned below supports this observation.) Then there are all the other wires that need to penetrate the firewall - I reckon most will be in a big bunch to minimise the number of holes, although custom and practice seems to indicate that the mag leads should be well-segregated from all others. What about finding good airflow in which to mount the regulator? Is there an ideal place for the ammeter shunt? The fuel supply & return lines will be down at tunnel level, I guess. What might help me is to see pictures of other folks (Rotax 912/912S) firewall layouts, preferably in a picture taken from the engine side. Ive not seen many Europas sufficiently undressed to take this sort of picture myself. Ive had a quick look through the select few pictures on the Matronics Europa picture archive and have only seen one Rotax firewall picture, from Bob Harrison. Would anyone care to give me links to this sort of picture of their own machine, please? Thanks to anyone who can help. in friendship Rowland | Rowland Carson ... that's Rowland with a 'w' ... | http://www.rowlandcarson.org.uk | Skype, Twitter: rowland_carson Facebook: Rowland Carson | pictures: http://picasaweb.google.com/rowlandcarson ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message europa-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Europa-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/europa-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/europa-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.