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1. 03:09 AM - Re: MOD 24 Seat Width Increase (jonathanmilbank)
2. 07:02 AM - Re: firewall mountings and penetrations (graeme bird)
3. 08:42 AM - firewall forward planning (Rowland Carson)
4. 08:56 AM - Re: firewall forward planning (Karl Heindl)
5. 09:03 AM - Re: firewall forward planning (Karl Heindl)
6. 02:30 PM - Re: MOD 24 Seat Width Increase (spcialeffects)
7. 02:39 PM - Stern post access panel (spcialeffects)
8. 03:07 PM - Re: Wing Tip Lenses (spcialeffects)
9. 04:24 PM - Re: Stern post access panel (Nigel Graham)
10. 07:04 PM - Re: Stern post access panel (Tony Renshaw)
11. 11:53 PM - Re: Stern post access panel (spcialeffects)
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Subject: | Re: MOD 24 Seat Width Increase |
Hi Clive,
I did this mod almost 20 years ago and I don't have any photos. Of course the recesses
in my tunnel sides are now covered with dark fabric and don't show well
in a photo.
Only two points to make. I don't think it's necessary to cut recesses into the
tunnel which remove the top edges of the tunnel. My recesses look similar to your
proposals, but stop about an inch below the top edges, thereby retaining that
extra bit of tunnel strength. This doesn't compromise the increased comfort
afforded to your hips.
Having completed the concave recesses in the foam and done the lay-ups in the hollows,
while progressively rubbing away blue foam on the other side I would determine
the depth of foam still needing to be removed by occasionally pushing
a thin needle through the foam until it touched the concave layup and thus served
as a depth gauge.
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Subject: | Re: firewall mountings and penetrations |
My battery is on the Port footwell, I took two power and the two earth(s) through
using brass studds just above the battery position. All the low current stuff
went through on a couple of 'D' connectors mounted on one side (engine) above
the battery position , the plug plugging in from the other cockpit panel side.
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Graeme Bird
G-UMPY
Mono Classic/XS 912S/Woodcomp 3000/3W
Newby: 135 hours 32 months on the Mono
g(at)gdbmk.co.uk
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Subject: | firewall forward planning |
Thanks to the several folk who have kindly sent to me pictures of their firewall
on the engine side. They have been helpful (and more are welcome if you have
them), but looking at them has raised a further question.
Im planning to fit the Skydrive carb heat kit, which gets its heat from the water
system and fits between the carbs and the intake manifolds. It will cause the
carbs and airbox (plenum chamber) to be a bit further aft, and I wonder how
much room Ill have for things fixed to the firewall in that central area. Can
anyone whos done this already tell me the distance between the firewall and the
aft face of the airbox when the Skydrive carb heaters are fitted to a 912S
on a XS fuselage?
in friendship
Rowland
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Subject: | firewall forward planning |
Rowland=2C
On my XS/912s/skydrive heater the distance is exactly 100mm. But my carb he
ater is the original one. I believe the newer one has different measurement
s. You need to check.Karl
> From: rowlandcarson@gmail.com
> Subject: Europa-List: firewall forward planning
> Date: Sat=2C 22 Nov 2014 16:35:04 +0000
> To: europa-list@matronics.com
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> Thanks to the several folk who have kindly sent to me pictures of their f
irewall on the engine side. They have been helpful (and more are welcome if
you have them)=2C but looking at them has raised a further question.
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> I=92m planning to fit the Skydrive carb heat kit=2C which gets its heat f
rom the water system and fits between the carbs and the intake manifolds. I
t will cause the carbs and airbox (plenum chamber) to be a bit further aft
=2C and I wonder how much room I=92ll have for things fixed to the firewall
in that central area. Can anyone who=92s done this already tell me the dis
tance between the firewall and the aft face of the airbox when the Skydrive
carb heaters are fitted to a 912S on a XS fuselage?
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> in friendship
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Subject: | firewall forward planning |
T clarify=2C my heater moves the carbs back by only 18mm
> From: rowlandcarson@gmail.com
> Subject: Europa-List: firewall forward planning
> Date: Sat=2C 22 Nov 2014 16:35:04 +0000
> To: europa-list@matronics.com
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> Thanks to the several folk who have kindly sent to me pictures of their f
irewall on the engine side. They have been helpful (and more are welcome if
you have them)=2C but looking at them has raised a further question.
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> I=92m planning to fit the Skydrive carb heat kit=2C which gets its heat f
rom the water system and fits between the carbs and the intake manifolds. I
t will cause the carbs and airbox (plenum chamber) to be a bit further aft
=2C and I wonder how much room I=92ll have for things fixed to the firewall
in that central area. Can anyone who=92s done this already tell me the dis
tance between the firewall and the aft face of the airbox when the Skydrive
carb heaters are fitted to a 912S on a XS fuselage?
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> in friendship
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> Rowland
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Subject: | Re: MOD 24 Seat Width Increase |
Hi Martin. I too am building a classic and have thought about this mod. I have
put it off until I have put in place the under carriage and brake lever to get
an idea of what space will be left inside the tunnel and also how close you will
be to the wheel. If you could send be some photos of your tunnel too that
would be great. Also did you make up a temple to get both side the same? My email
is spcialeffects@aol.com. Many thanks Frank
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Subject: | Stern post access panel |
Hello all. I would like to make an access panel in the stern post in case I need
to remove the long control shaft and also to make it easier for access into
the tail end For maintance. My inspector is a bit dubious about cutting into the
post but I said to him that I got the idea after seeing that G-IANI has a vent
from the D panel to the stern post. So my question is, is there a mod for
this install on G-IANI?
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Subject: | Re: Wing Tip Lenses |
I too have a set of fred klein lenses for sale if anyone is interested and also
killer cycle nav lights.
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Subject: | Re: Stern post access panel |
I'm not aware of a mod ever being requested for this.
If you are building a mono wheel with a tail spring, then this might not
be a great idea as the stern post will carry some of the weight of the
aircraft on the ground.
If on the other hand you are building a tri-gear, then would think that
the stern post will not be subjected to any great loads that low down,
so it shouldn't be a problem. G-IANI is a tri-gear.
Nigel
On 22/11/2014 22:39, spcialeffects wrote:
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> Hello all. I would like to make an access panel in the stern post in case I need
to remove the long control shaft and also to make it easier for access into
the tail end For maintance. My inspector is a bit dubious about cutting into
the post but I said to him that I got the idea after seeing that G-IANI has a
vent from the D panel to the stern post. So my question is, is there a mod for
this install on G-IAN
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> http://forums.matronics.com//files/image_995.jpg
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Subject: | Re: Stern post access panel |
Hi Nigel,
Why would you worry about the sternpost carrying some of the load? The way it is
reduxed in, well I would think it should make no difference as it is such a
strong member. I for example am building a Classic, but have incorporated a sternpost.
My tail spring sits quite tightly in the sternpost, and mine is a mono
wheel, actually a taildragger. Id like to know if anyone else sees this as an
issue?
Regards
Tony Renshaw
P.S. I have thought of reinforcing the tail area nevertheless, as that hole for
access is a big one.
> On 23 Nov 2014, at 11:23 am, Nigel Graham <nigel_graham@m-tecque.co.uk> wrote:
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> I'm not aware of a mod ever being requested for this.
> If you are building a mono wheel with a tail spring, then this might not be a
great idea as the stern post will carry some of the weight of the aircraft on
the ground.
> If on the other hand you are building a tri-gear, then would think that the stern
post will not be subjected to any great loads that low down, so it shouldn't
be a problem. G-IANI is a tri-gear.
>
> Nigel
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> On 22/11/2014 22:39, spcialeffects wrote:
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>> Hello all. I would like to make an access panel in the stern post in case I
need to remove the long control shaft and also to make it easier for access into
the tail end For maintance. My inspector is a bit dubious about cutting into
the post but I said to him that I got the idea after seeing that G-IANI has
a vent from the D panel to the stern post. So my question is, is there a mod for
this install on G-IAN
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>> http://forums.matronics.com//files/image_995.jpg
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Subject: | Re: Stern post access panel |
Thanks for the reply Nigel. I am building a mono, classic. With the tail spring
bonded to the stern post I can see how some load would be transferred into the
post, however unlike the tri gear vent photo I am putting back what Iv removed
which must strengthen in back up a bit?
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