---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 01/04/15: 8 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 06:41 AM - Tie-down points (Rick Moss) 2. 06:52 AM - Re: New (Free) Aviation App (rampil) 3. 07:32 AM - Re: Tie-down points (dpy01) 4. 07:46 AM - Re: Tie-down points (Kevin Challis) 5. 07:49 AM - Re: New (Free) Aviation App (Raimo Toivio) 6. 08:09 AM - Re: Tie-down points (Bob Harrison) 7. 10:03 AM - Re: Tie-down points (Rick Moss) 8. 01:16 PM - Re: Re: Tie-down points (Karl Heindl) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 06:41:35 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Tie-down points From: "Rick Moss" Hi all, My Europa (Classic tri gear with XS wings and FWF) has no obvious tie down points. POH indicates that the undercarriage should be used, but with the speed kit I can see challenges there. What to you all use? Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=436605#436605 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:52:12 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: New (Free) Aviation App From: "rampil" Hi Glenn, Thanks! The app sounds quite useful. -------- Ira N224XS Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=436606#436606 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:32:25 AM PST US From: dpy01 Subject: Re: Europa-List: Tie-down points I use the front nose wheel frame and the rear hard point originally part of the tail wheel mounting point on my tri-gear. Alan G-OBJT Sent from my iPhone > On 4 Jan 2015, at 14:40, Rick Moss wrote: > > > Hi all, > > My Europa (Classic tri gear with XS wings and FWF) has no obvious tie down points. POH indicates that the undercarriage should be used, but with the speed kit I can see challenges there. What to you all use? > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=436605#436605 > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:46:44 AM PST US From: Kevin Challis Subject: Re: Europa-List: Tie-down points I use the inside of the main legs at the bottom inboard of the spats not ideal but so far no problems. Kevin Challis > On 4 Jan 2015, at 14:40, Rick Moss wrote: > > > Hi all, > > My Europa (Classic tri gear with XS wings and FWF) has no obvious tie down points. POH indicates that the undercarriage should be used, but with the speed kit I can see challenges there. What to you all use? > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=436605#436605 > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 07:49:13 AM PST US From: Raimo Toivio Subject: Re: Europa-List: New (Free) Aviation App If you happen to land to Nation Finland and there to us Lempaala EFRT pls feel free to borrow this BMW courtecy-car... Cheers, Raimo allekirjoitus 3.1.2015, 22:13, Rowland Carson kirjoitti: > > On 3 Jan 2015, at 19:54, gbrasch wrote: > >> "Airport Courtesy Cars" is a new Google Play/Apple iPhone app that lists over 1100 airports nationwide that have crew/courtesy cars > Glenn - maybe you should make it clear which nation . . . . there are several nations where this list is read! > > in friendship > > Rowland > > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 08:09:12 AM PST US From: "Bob Harrison" Subject: RE: Europa-List: Tie-down points Hi! Rick ....Happy New Year! I have put eye bolts through the centre of the thick square spacer block in the outboard flap hinges arranging for the eye to just protrude through the speed fairing leading edges. Each takes a good load through a load bearing point. Then I still have the Mono Tail wheel spring arm with an eye bolt for winching the aircraft rearwards into the trailer for a rear third tie down point Regards Bob Harrison G-PTAG -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rick Moss Sent: 04 January 2015 14:40 Subject: Europa-List: Tie-down points Hi all, My Europa (Classic tri gear with XS wings and FWF) has no obvious tie down points. POH indicates that the undercarriage should be used, but with the speed kit I can see challenges there. What to you all use? Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=436605#436605 ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 10:03:34 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: Tie-down points From: "Rick Moss" Cheers all, I have a tie-down point below the fin, presumably attached to the tailwheel hard-point. I guess it's best to be tail-into-wind with the rudder gust-locked, stick held forwards (or tailplane removed?) and flaps down. Some sort of screw-in eyebolts mid-span on each wing would be lovely, but not a feasible retro-fit. If you have to leave them parked in forecast strong winds, has anybody considered the feasibility of removing the wings entirely? I'm thinking that a 35kt wind from the front is going to seriously test any tie-downs. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=436612#436612 ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 01:16:25 PM PST US From: Karl Heindl Subject: RE: Europa-List: Re: Tie-down points Hi Rick=2C I had the foresight to install 8mm eyebolts at build time=2C so not much us e to you.For parking I only have north/south positions=2C which is not good . My unorthodox method is to leave a lot of slack=2C then the aircraft will weathercock into wind. Bad weather tends to come fromthe east. If hurrican e force winds were forecast I would derig and at least bring the wings home into my garage.Karl > Subject: Europa-List: Re: Tie-down points > From: Rkwmoss@gmail.com > Date: Sun=2C 4 Jan 2015 10:02:58 -0800 > To: europa-list@matronics.com > > > Cheers all=2C > > I have a tie-down point below the fin=2C presumably attached to the tailw heel hard-point. I guess it's best to be tail-into-wind with the rudder gus t-locked=2C stick held forwards (or tailplane removed?) and flaps down. Som e sort of screw-in eyebolts mid-span on each wing would be lovely=2C but no t a feasible retro-fit. > > If you have to leave them parked in forecast strong winds=2C has anybody considered the feasibility of removing the wings entirely? I'm thinking tha t a 35kt wind from the front is going to seriously test any tie-downs. > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=436612#436612 > > > > > > > =========== =========== =========== =========== > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message europa-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Europa-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/europa-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/europa-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.