---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 01/11/15: 15 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 06:05 AM - Re: TU 02 (William Daniell) 2. 07:05 AM - Removing and Attaching Wings Single Handed (George Nielsen) 3. 07:21 AM - Re: Removing and Attaching Wings Single Handed (alan.twigg775@gmail.com) 4. 07:43 AM - Re: Removing and Attaching Wings Single Handed (Rowland Carson) 5. 08:02 AM - Re: Removing and Attaching Wings Single Handed (alan.twigg775@gmail.com) 6. 08:33 AM - Re: Removing and Attaching Wings Single Handed (Philipgeorge347) 7. 10:42 AM - Re: Removing and Attaching Wings Single Handed (Bob Harrison) 8. 10:49 AM - Re: Removing and Attaching Wings Single Handed (Rowland Carson) 9. 10:55 AM - Re: Removing and Attaching Wings Single Handed (William Daniell) 10. 01:30 PM - "What is this?"- a crtitcal review () 11. 03:00 PM - Re: Removing and Attaching Wings Single Handed (Steve Hagar) 12. 03:43 PM - Stern post and ribs (William Daniell) 13. 07:13 PM - Tail Wheel Fairing for Monowheel Classic (Timward) 14. 07:29 PM - Re: Tail Wheel Fairing for Monowheel Classic (Robert Borger) 15. 10:52 PM - Re: Tail Wheel Fairing for Monowheel Classic (bill) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 06:05:49 AM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: TU 02 From: William Daniell Phew thanks very much, I jut had a restless night with "leftover" syndrome imagining where it should go. this one turned up in my speed kit box which I dug out all covered with dust and full of spiders having put it away nigh on 10 years ago... I certainly already have the link rods so it must be an extra one. Will William Daniell LONGPORT +57 310 295 0744 On Sat, Jan 10, 2015 at 12:36 PM, Rowland Carson wrote: m > > > > On 10 Jan 2015, at 16:54, William Daniell > wrote: > > > I have an aluminium tube TU 02 which I can identify. Does anyone know > that this is for? > > William - if it=99s 2024 T3 - .5" x .035" x 28=9D then it =99s TU2, which is cut > into 2 pieces to make the aileron link rods which connect the outboard > bellcrank to the aileron. See the Manual chapter 9 page 3. > > I have found it a bit annoying that the part numbering sometimes has a > leading zero (eg EURO01) and sometimes does not. I guess whoever assigned > the part numbers thought there might be less than 10 of the parts that > don=99t have a leading zero. Not always consistent (eg TU1, TU2, TU 21RM, > TU23RM). I couldn=99t initially find TU 02 or TU02 in my inventory database, > because it was called out as TU2. > > Hope this helps. > > in friendship > > Rowland > > > =========== =========== =========== =========== > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 07:05:09 AM PST US From: George Nielsen Subject: Europa-List: Removing and Attaching Wings Single Handed Hello, As I am considering the Europa I would be grateful if you could inform me about the possibilities of removing and attaching the wings single handed. I have seen in the manual that this can be done by two people. However, my requirement is for this to be done single handed, as hangar space is expensive. My idea is to go to the airfield, attach the wings on the aircraft, fly and prior to inserting in the hangar to remove the wings. Is there any equipment available which enables this to be done single handed with an Europa? In that case I reckon that the equipment will be bound at the home base so removing and reattaching wings will not be possible at other airfields. Thank you for your reply. George Nielsen ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:21:09 AM PST US From: alan.twigg775@gmail.com Subject: Re: Europa-List: Removing and Attaching Wings Single Handed Many gliders and some Europas have a 'one man (woman)' rigging aid. It consists of a wing dolly that can be rotated between vertical and horizontal, while you handle the wing root. I digest you look initially on glider web sites. Regards Alan Twigg MotorGlider Kit463 Sent from my iPhone > On 11 Jan 2015, at 15:04, George Nielsen wrote: > > > Hello, > > As I am considering the Europa I would be grateful if you could inform me about the possibilities of removing and attaching the wings single handed. I have seen in the manual that this can be done by two people. However, my requirement is for this to be done single handed, as hangar space is expensive. > > My idea is to go to the airfield, attach the wings on the aircraft, fly and prior to inserting in the hangar to remove the wings. Is there any equipment available which enables this to be done single handed with an Europa? In that case I reckon that the equipment will be bound at the home base so removing and reattaching wings will not be possible at other airfields. > > Thank you for your reply. > > George Nielsen > > > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:43:57 AM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: Removing and Attaching Wings Single Handed From: Rowland Carson On 11 Jan 2015, at 15:04, George Nielsen wrote: > As I am considering the Europa I would be grateful if you could inform me about the possibilities of removing and attaching the wings single handed. I have seen in the manual that this can be done by two people. However, my requirement is for this to be done single handed, as hangar space is expensive. > > My idea is to go to the airfield, attach the wings on the aircraft, fly and prior to inserting in the hangar to remove the wings. Is there any equipment available which enables this to be done single handed with an Europa? In that case I reckon that the equipment will be bound at the home base so removing and reattaching wings will not be possible at other airfields. George - yes, one-man (or one-woman) rigging is possible. Ive been doing quite a bit of that recently while setting up the wing pin sockets; see my photo pages: http://www.rowlandcarson.org.uk/aviation/europa_435/dolly_transfer.php http://www.rowlandcarson.org.uk/aviation/europa_435/first_wing_rig.php http://www.rowlandcarson.org.uk/aviation/europa_435/try_wing_incidence.php for pictures of the fuselage and wing dollies. Yes, the rigging kit definitely stays at the departure airfield! My dollies came with the covered trailer I bought from Roger Huttlestone who operates from an industrial unit near Moreton-in-Marsh. However, I believe that he is no longer making the trailers. It's possible he might consider making the rigging kit if he still has the templates and fixtures. Please let me know if you would like contact details for Roger (he does seem to be well-known to Google . . . ). in friendship Rowland | Rowland Carson ... that's Rowland with a 'w' ... | http://www.rowlandcarson.org.uk/aviation/europa_435/index.php | LAA #016532 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 08:02:37 AM PST US From: alan.twigg775@gmail.com Subject: Re: Europa-List: Removing and Attaching Wings Single Handed Row land, I see you have two dollys, have you found a cheap source, I am being quoted over 500 for one. Alan Twigg Kit 463 Getting ready for cockpit trim. Sent from my iPhone > On 11 Jan 2015, at 15:42, Rowland Carson wrote: > > >> On 11 Jan 2015, at 15:04, George Nielsen wrote: >> >> As I am considering the Europa I would be grateful if you could inform me about the possibilities of removing and attaching the wings single handed. I have seen in the manual that this can be done by two people. However, my requirement is for this to be done single handed, as hangar space is expensive. >> >> My idea is to go to the airfield, attach the wings on the aircraft, fly and prior to inserting in the hangar to remove the wings. Is there any equipment available which enables this to be done single handed with an Europa? In that case I reckon that the equipment will be bound at the home base so removing and reattaching wings will not be possible at other airfields. > > George - yes, one-man (or one-woman) rigging is possible. Ive been doing quite a bit of that recently while setting up the wing pin sockets; see my photo pages: > > http://www.rowlandcarson.org.uk/aviation/europa_435/dolly_transfer.php > > http://www.rowlandcarson.org.uk/aviation/europa_435/first_wing_rig.php > > http://www.rowlandcarson.org.uk/aviation/europa_435/try_wing_incidence.php > > for pictures of the fuselage and wing dollies. > > Yes, the rigging kit definitely stays at the departure airfield! > > My dollies came with the covered trailer I bought from Roger Huttlestone who operates from an industrial unit near Moreton-in-Marsh. However, I believe that he is no longer making the trailers. It's possible he might consider making the rigging kit if he still has the templates and fixtures. > > Please let me know if you would like contact details for Roger (he does seem to be well-known to Google . . . ). > > in friendship > > Rowland > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 08:33:09 AM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: Removing and Attaching Wings Single Handed From: Philipgeorge347 Hi George Yes it is straight forward single person rigging as Alan said. You will ne ed a dolly constructed that swivels thru 90 degrees with golf cart wheels etc. I constructed one =2Cas I use to rig and de- rig my europa every fli ght up until 3 or 4 years ago. Philip George. Sent from Samsung Mobile
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From: George Nielsen
Date:11/01/2015 15:08 (GMT+00:00)
To: europa-list@matronics.com
Subject: Europa-List: Removing an d Attaching Wings Single Handed
Hello=2C As I am considering the Europa I would be grateful if you could inform me about the possibilities of removing and attaching the wings single handed. I have seen in the manual that this can be done by two people. However=2C my requirement is for this to be done single handed=2C as hangar space is expensive. My idea is to go to the airfield=2C attach the wings on the aircraft=2C fly and prior to inserting in the hangar to remove the wings. Is there any equipment available which enables this to be done single handed with an Europa? In that case I reckon that the equipment will be bound at the home base so removing and reattaching wings will not be possible at other airfields. Thank you for your reply. George Nielsen ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 10:42:17 AM PST US From: "Bob Harrison" Subject: RE: Europa-List: Removing and Attaching Wings Single Handed Hi! George, You don't specify Mono Wheel or trike. However my submissions shown at:- http://www.users.waitrose.com/~jcliff/BobH/BobH.htm -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of George Nielsen Sent: 11 January 2015 15:04 Subject: Europa-List: Removing and Attaching Wings Single Handed Hello, As I am considering the Europa I would be grateful if you could inform me about the possibilities of removing and attaching the wings single handed. I have seen in the manual that this can be done by two people. However, my requirement is for this to be done single handed, as hangar space is expensive. My idea is to go to the airfield, attach the wings on the aircraft, fly and prior to inserting in the hangar to remove the wings. Is there any equipment available which enables this to be done single handed with an Europa? In that case I reckon that the equipment will be bound at the home base so removing and reattaching wings will not be possible at other airfields. Thank you for your reply. George Nielsen ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 10:49:22 AM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: Removing and Attaching Wings Single Handed From: Rowland Carson On 11 Jan 2015, at 16:02, alan.twigg775@gmail.com wrote: > Row land, I see you have two dollys, have you found a cheap source, I am being quoted over 500 for one. Alan - I dont know what proportion of the trailer cost was allocated by Roger Huttlestone to the dollies etc. He gave me a discount on the standard trailer and rigging set price because I fitted the ramp, floored, undersealed and wired the trailer myself, and also provided some manual labour for fitting the roof at his workshop. His bill in November 1999 came to 3850. If Rogers not prepared to make the rigging kit any more (I see hes into car restorations now), Im sure he wouldnt mind you taking measurements from mine to prepare a spec for construction by A N Other. in friendship Rowland | Rowland Carson ... that's Rowland with a 'w' ... | http://www.rowlandcarson.org.uk | Skype, Twitter: rowland_carson Facebook: Rowland Carson | pictures: http://picasaweb.google.com/rowlandcarson ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 10:55:10 AM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: Removing and Attaching Wings Single Handed From: William Daniell My rather unsighly but effective set up. There are two pretty much the same per wing...I copied them from a much neater version but I dont remember who. Will On Jan 11, 2015 10:23 AM, wrote: > > Many gliders and some Europas have a 'one man (woman)' rigging aid. It > consists of a wing dolly that can be rotated between vertical and > horizontal, while you handle the wing root. I digest you look initially on > glider web sites. > Regards > Alan Twigg > MotorGlider > Kit463 > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On 11 Jan 2015, at 15:04, George Nielsen wrote: > > > > > > Hello, > > > > As I am considering the Europa I would be grateful if you could inform > me about the possibilities of removing and attaching the wings single > handed. I have seen in the manual that this can be done by two people. > However, my requirement is for this to be done single handed, as hangar > space is expensive. > > > > My idea is to go to the airfield, attach the wings on the aircraft, fly > and prior to inserting in the hangar to remove the wings. Is there any > equipment available which enables this to be done single handed with an > Europa? In that case I reckon that the equipment will be bound at the home > base so removing and reattaching wings will not be possible at other > airfields. > > > > Thank you for your reply. > > > > George Nielsen > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 01:30:36 PM PST US From: Subject: Europa-List: "What is this?"- a crtitcal review My apologies for the crudity of the title original email, I meant to include a small portion of the multi-page insert, comprising a multitude of random numbers - say five pages of space, not once but twice in the same list. I suspect it's a graphic or photo and I am out of the mainstream in this.. Flames and clarity invited Ferg C-FFGG ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 03:00:42 PM PST US From: Steve Hagar Subject: Re: Europa-List: Removing and Attaching Wings Single Handed With the wings off you will need a dolly that quickly attaches and removes. The unit I ginned up has been very robust. I have done full throttle run ups many times with the wings off. With the plane tied to the back of the car of course. See short video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHYtCRwemiA Steve -----Original Message----- >From: George Nielsen >Sent: Jan 11, 2015 8:04 AM >To: europa-list@matronics.com >Subject: Europa-List: Removing and Attaching Wings Single Handed > > >Hello, > >As I am considering the Europa I would be grateful if you could inform >me about the possibilities of removing and attaching the wings single >handed. I have seen in the manual that this can be done by two people. >However, my requirement is for this to be done single handed, as hangar >space is expensive. > >My idea is to go to the airfield, attach the wings on the aircraft, fly >and prior to inserting in the hangar to remove the wings. Is there any >equipment available which enables this to be done single handed with an >Europa? In that case I reckon that the equipment will be bound at the >home base so removing and reattaching wings will not be possible at >other airfields. > >Thank you for your reply. > >George Nielsen > > ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 03:43:41 PM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Stern post and ribs From: William Daniell A question for the assembled wisdom. The port side of the stern post has to be cut back as does the outer skin. As I understand it the stern post on the port side glues to the foam. >From the manual it appears that one should glue first and then cut back....but it looks easier to cut first and then glue. Any thoughts? Thanks Will William Daniell LONGPORT +57 310 295 0744 ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 07:13:28 PM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Tail Wheel Fairing for Monowheel Classic From: Timward Hi there, Does anyone have a Tail Wheel Fairing/spat wanting a home? Certain amount of damage has occurred on my one after 500 hours. Have had a protector on it made from fiberglass which has been good but now the fairing has cracked. Has anyone some better ideas on how to protect the leading edge of the fairing from stone damage? Cheers, Tim Monowheel Classic #292 Tim Ward 12 Waiwetu Street Fendalton, Christchurch, 8052 New Zealand. ward.t@xtra.co.nz Ph 64 3 3515166 Mob 0210640221 ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 07:29:07 PM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: Tail Wheel Fairing for Monowheel Classic From: Robert Borger Tim, I just happen to have an unused tailwheel fairing out at the hanger. You are welcome to it for the price of shipping. Cant help with the damage control device. Blue skies & tailwinds, Bob Borger Europa XS Tri, Rotax 914, Airmaster C/S Prop (75 hrs). Little Toot Sport Biplane, Lycoming Thunderbolt AEIO-320 EXP 3705 Lynchburg Dr. Corinth, TX 76208-5331 Cel: 817-992-1117 rlborger@mac.com On Jan 11, 2015, at 9:12 PM, Timward wrote: Hi there, Does anyone have a Tail Wheel Fairing/spat wanting a home? Certain amount of damage has occurred on my one after 500 hours. Have had a protector on it made from fiberglass which has been good but now the fairing has cracked. Has anyone some better ideas on how to protect the leading edge of the fairing from stone damage? Cheers, Tim Monowheel Classic #292 Tim Ward 12 Waiwetu Street Fendalton, Christchurch, 8052 New Zealand. ward.t@xtra.co.nz Ph 64 3 3515166 Mob 0210640221 ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 10:52:52 PM PST US From: bill Subject: Re: Europa-List: Tail Wheel Fairing for Monowheel Classic Tim, Mine wore out several times due to rough strips and finally I took it off and do without it. No noticeable performance at all. I plan to bring my long ranger tank down to you at Great Plains assuming you still want it. Cheers. Sue and Bill Sisley On 12/01/2015 4:12 p.m., Timward wrote: > > Hi there, > Does anyone have a Tail Wheel Fairing/spat wanting a home? > Certain amount of damage has occurred on my one after 500 hours. > Have had a protector on it made from fiberglass which has been good but now the fairing has cracked. Has anyone some better ideas on how to protect the leading edge of the fairing from > stone damage? > > Cheers, > Tim > Monowheel Classic > #292 > > > Tim Ward > 12 Waiwetu Street > Fendalton, > Christchurch, 8052 > New Zealand. > > ward.t@xtra.co.nz > > Ph 64 3 3515166 > Mob 0210640221 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message europa-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Europa-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/europa-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/europa-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.