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1. 02:26 AM - Re: Rotax Engine Purchase (John Wighton)
2. 01:00 PM - Re: Rotax Engine Purchase (Kelvin Weston)
3. 09:48 PM - Re: Stall Warning System installation (tonyvaccarella)
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| Subject: | Re: Rotax Engine Purchase |
Don't forget you already have a 2 year warranty period on all goods purchased in
the EU. The UK is part of the EU (in case anyone had forgotten).
The directive covering this is as per extract (with acknowledgment to This is Money
article in 2009).
The link goes to here:
http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/LexUriServ.do?uri=OJ:L:1999:171:0012:0016:EN:PDF see Article 5 Para 1 on time limits.
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The EU directive in question is 1999/44/EC. The full wording is contained here
(open the word documtent and scroll to page 7) but the important bit is this:
'A two-year guarantee applies for the sale of all consumer goods everywhere in
the EU. In some countries, this may be more, and some manufacturers also choose
to offer a longer warranty period.'
As with UK law, a seller is not bound by the guarantee 'if the (fault) has its
origin in materials supplied by the consumer'. But the EU rule does not require
the buyer to show the fault is inherent in the product and not down to their
actions.
The EU rule also says buyers need to report a problem within two months of discovering
it if they want to be covered under the rule.
How can I use this rule?
Reports of cases where shoppers have used the EU rule to get refunds suggest that
even senior staff at stores may be unaware of it, so be prepared for some blank
faces if you need to use it to argue your case. But eventually, after referring
the complaint to legal teams, reports suggest the stores have coughed up.
Use this checklist to see if you could try and use the EU rule:
The goods were purchased no longer than two years ago
The store will not provide a refund or repair because you are returning the item
after their return period has ended, usually one year
You are reporting the fault within two months of discovering it
The goods show no signs of damage through your actions or misuse.
The best advice is to print off the EU rule and take a copy with you. If staff
fail to recognise it, ask them to take your details and report your complaint
to their bosses. Take a note of the names of any staff you speak to and explain
that you will contact them again soon for a response.
You may manage to get your refund on the basis of the EU directive, however, shops
are within their rights to [try to] use the Sale of Goods Act as the definitive
guideline instead.
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John Wighton
Europa XS trigear G-IPOD
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| Subject: | Re: Rotax Engine Purchase |
Hi all and thanks for the replies.
I think Rotax may have changed the warranty from what it used to be.
The latest warranty document states that for uncertified 912 models the warranty
coverage period is 18 consecutive months or the first 200 hours of operation
whichever occurs first.
It goes on to state:
This warranty will be in effect:
- In case of the warranty period being measured in hours of operations: from the
date the product is first put into use.
- In case of the warranty period being measured in months: from the date of delivery
to the first retail customer, but in no event later than six (6) months
after BRP-Powertrain invoice date regarding the sale of the product to an authorised
distributor/dealer.
This would suggest that dealers cannot store or keep engines for longer than six
months if the purchaser is to get his full 18 months warranty!
Rotax effectively give the engine a 24 month warranty starting from manufacture.
If dealers do have the engine for longer than six months then the warranty will
have started before they sell it!
The warranty document is in the Tech Support area of the Rotax website.
There is also a video clip from the Rotax Flying Club (link below) that seems to
suggest the same.
http://rotaxnews.net/?p=268
I believe the previous UK Rotax dealer - Skydrive are selling engines at reduced
cost for this very reason, they have limited warranties.
I think I shall just have to buy as late as possible and work faster!!
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Regards
Kelv Weston
Kit 497
kelv@kdweston.biz
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| Subject: | Re: Stall Warning System installation |
Thank you to those who replied.
After some searching on the web I found the document that described the installation.
Now its back to the workshop - damn hot in there - I might have to wait for some
cooler months...
Thanks
Tony
Sydney Australia
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Tony Vaccarella
Mascot NSW 2020
Sydney Australia
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