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1. 08:38 AM - Re: Jamar finger brakes (William McClellan)
2. 08:40 AM - Re: Pierburg Pumps (Karl Heindl)
3. 09:02 AM - Re: Pierburg Pumps (Pete Lawless)
4. 09:48 AM - Re: Pierburg Pumps (Karl Heindl)
5. 09:58 AM - Re: Jamar finger brakes (bill mcclellan)
6. 11:40 AM - Re: Re: Jamar finger brakes (Christoph Both)
7. 06:14 PM - Re: Jamar finger brakes (Bud Yerly)
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| Subject: | Re: Jamar finger brakes |
Thanks, Nigel, that's helpful.
Bill
-----Original Message-----
>From: Nigel Graham <nigel_graham@m-tecque.co.uk>
>Sent: Jan 20, 2015 12:50 PM
>To: europa-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Europa-List: Jamar finger brakes
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>Bill,
>
>The definitive document on all things "Europa Brake Fluid" can be found
>on the club website at:
>
>http://www.theeuropaclub.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Brake-Fluid-review.pdf
>
>Ian Rickard's excellent research even gives you the supplier of
>replacement master and slave cylinder "O" rings for whichever fluid
>system you decide on.
>
>Nigel
>
>On 20/01/2015 20:03, bill mcclellan wrote:
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>> I have installed the Jamar dual brake cylinders and I have Grove brakes. It
appears that Jamar requires Dot 3 or 4 brake fluid and Grove requires MIL-5606
hydraulic fluid as does Matco. I don't believe these two fluids are not compatible.
Does anyone have Jamar brakes cylinders with Grove or Matco brakes?
If so what brake fluid do you use and find compatible with this brake combination?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Bill McClellan
>>
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>> Read this topic online here:
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>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=437336#437336
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Hi Pete=2C
Is this pump for the 914 or the 912 ? If 914=2C has this German company got
one for the 912 ?I can't get a proper answer from them=2C even though I em
ailed in German.The 914 Pierburg pump supplied by Rotax is listed at $ 356
in the US (Lockwood).
Cheers=2CKarl
> From: pete@lawless.info
> To: europa-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: Europa-List: Pierburg Pumps
> Date: Thu=2C 1 Jul 2010 10:29:25 +0100
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>
> I ordered a replacement 6 weeks ago from www.ruddies-berlin.de. The pump
> model number is 7.20971.55
>
> I could not get past the spam blocker on the website form and ended up
> ordering by fax. The pump arrived with an invoice a few days latter. Ju
st
> over 60 UK Pounds.
>
> Pete
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gilles These
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> Sent: 01 July 2010 09:30
> To: europa-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Europa-List: Pierburg Pumps
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> <Gilles.Thesee@ac-grenoble.fr>
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> Mike Parkin a =E9crit :
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> > If someone has the Europa Pierburg pump handy=2C would you email the
> > Pierburg part number.
> >
> >
> >
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> Mike=2C
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> I do not know if there is a specific Europa fuel pump=2C but here is some
> information about the "Rotax" fuel pumps.
> http://contrails.free.fr/engine_pierburg_en.php
>
> Of course=2C the discussion on the parallel/series installation needs som
e
> update due to the new Rotax manuals=2C but the information about the pump
> itself is still current.
>
> Hope this helps=2C
> Best regards=2C
> --
> Gilles
> http://contrails.free.fr
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| Subject: | Re: Pierburg Pumps |
Hi Karl
This was for the 912UL. Fitted it in the summer, identical to the
original supplied with the engine.
Rudi does not seem to respond to email you need to fax!
By the way just ordered a replacement for the oil pressure sender, Rotax
cost UK Pounds 319 - bought a VDO (again as originally supplied) UK
Pounds 36 with free delivery from Ireland!
Regards
Pete
On 21/01/15 16:40, Karl Heindl wrote:
> *Hi Pete,*
> *
> *
> *Is this pump for the 914 or the 912 ? If 914, has this German company
> got one for the 912 ?*
> *I can't get a proper answer from them, even though I emailed in German.*
> *The 914 Pierburg pump supplied by Rotax is listed at $ 356 in the US
> (Lockwood).*
> *
> *
> *Cheers,*
> *Karl*
> *
> *
> *
> *
> > From: pete@lawless.info
> > To: europa-list@matronics.com
> > Subject: RE: Europa-List: Pierburg Pumps
> > Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2010 10:29:25 +0100
> >
> >
> > I ordered a replacement 6 weeks ago from www.ruddies-berlin.de. The pump
> > model number is 7.20971.55
> >
> > I could not get past the spam blocker on the website form and ended up
> > ordering by fax. The pump arrived with an invoice a few days latter.
> Just
> > over 60 UK Pounds.
> >
> > Pete
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
> > [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gilles
> Thesee
> > Sent: 01 July 2010 09:30
> > To: europa-list@matronics.com
> > Subject: Re: Europa-List: Pierburg Pumps
> >
> > <Gilles.Thesee@ac-grenoble.fr>
> >
> > Mike Parkin a crit :
> > >
> > > If someone has the Europa Pierburg pump handy, would you email the
> > > Pierburg part number.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Mike,
> >
> > I do not know if there is a specific Europa fuel pump, but here is some
> > information about the "Rotax" fuel pumps.
> > http://contrails.free.fr/engine_pierburg_en.php
> >
> > Of course, the discussion on the parallel/series installation needs
> some
> > update due to the new Rotax manuals, but the information about the pump
> > itself is still current.
> >
> > Hope this helps,
> > Best regards,
> > --
> > Gilles
> > http://contrails.free.fr
> >
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pETE=2CThank you for the confirmation. Current price incl. postage is 99 eu
ros=2C so I will order one.Karl
From: pete@lawless.info
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| Subject: | Re: Jamar finger brakes |
Christoph, that's good to know that the Matco seals and plungers can take the DOT
5.0 silicon based fluid given what each manufacturer says to use. How long
has your brake system been in use?
Thanks,
Bill
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=437418#437418
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| Subject: | Re: Jamar finger brakes |
In use since July 2013. I noticed that callipers stick a bit once the
plane has not moved for a few weeks. Sticking both at Matco Side or Hand
Brake. But moving the handle broke it free easily. This never happened
once the plane was in use (flying once a week)
Christoph
On 2015-01-21, 1:57 PM, "bill mcclellan" <wilwood@earthlink.net> wrote:
><wilwood@earthlink.net>
>
>Christoph, that's good to know that the Matco seals and plungers can take
>the DOT 5.0 silicon based fluid given what each manufacturer says to use.
>How long has your brake system been in use?
>Thanks,
>Bill
>
>
>Read this topic online here:
>
>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=437418#437418
>
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| Subject: | Re: Jamar finger brakes |
Bill,
Go on my website www.customflightcreations.com and download the bleeding
procedure in the Techniques section.
For your setup use only Dot 5 (not 5.1) and it works with everything as its
silicone.
Read the bleeding procedure for the Jamar. Then loctite in the Allen head
pivot bolts because they do eventually loosen and you are blessed with one
brake handle in your hand when least expecting it and needing to brake.
Regards,
Bud Yerly
-----Original Message-----
From: bill mcclellan
Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2015 3:03 PM
Subject: Europa-List: Jamar finger brakes
I have installed the Jamar dual brake cylinders and I have Grove brakes. It
appears that Jamar requires Dot 3 or 4 brake fluid and Grove requires
MIL-5606 hydraulic fluid as does Matco. I don't believe these two fluids
are not compatible. Does anyone have Jamar brakes cylinders with Grove or
Matco brakes? If so what brake fluid do you use and find compatible with
this brake combination?
Thanks,
Bill McClellan
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=437336#437336
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