---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 02/13/15: 2 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 02:32 AM - Re: flap cross-tube hinge alignment query (Jan de Jong) 2. 07:48 AM - Mono wheels (Gary Leinberger) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 02:32:57 AM PST US From: Jan de Jong Subject: Re: Europa-List: flap cross-tube hinge alignment query Hi Rowland, I am hardly the expert you are looking for (I'm not even quite at your stage of build), but I would do to the bid whatever is necessary and reinforce the slot in the bid with 3 layers of bid or so - rear surface top, lap onto the bottom left and lap onto the bottom right. Jan de Jong #461 On 2/12/2015 10:16 PM, Rowland Carson wrote: > > Monowheel XS, building in UK. > > Today I thought Id be bonding in to the fuselage floor the FL18 hinge brackets for the FL15 flap actuator cross-tube. I have already rigged the wings with the cross-tube connecting both flaps, the FL18s secured to a straight-edge and the FL15 lugs clamped to the FL16 hinges. The whole thing seems to operate quite smoothly over the whole range when I crouch in the rear fuselage and operate it from the lug near the centre. > > However, when I got to the part where I remove the hinge screws and stretch a string between the inner flap hinges on the wings to line up the holes in the FL18 brackets, I couldnt get the line straight. > > I photographed the nylon monofilament line, looking along its length, and measurements on the pictures suggest the brackets need to move forward by between 1.8mm and 2.2mm. I also tried using a laser pointer to provide similar data, shining it through the wing-mounted flap hinge hole and through a 1.5mm orifice centred on the nearer FL18 hole. This was tricky to achieve so the results may be less reliable. Calculations based on how far off-centre the beam appeared to hit the far FL18 suggest that each FL18 might need to move up to 2.7mm forward. > > I have already chamfered the forward edge of both FL18 slightly to accommodate the fillet of BID where the baggage bay meets the fuselage floor, but I dont want to remove any more metal without some sort of reassurance. Im assuming that cutting into the BID reinforcement between the baggage bay and the fuselage floor is not desirable! > > Suggestions welcome! > > in friendship > > Rowland > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 07:48:08 AM PST US From: Gary Leinberger Subject: Europa-List: Mono wheels I have no doubt that it is very enjoyable to become proficient in a mono (I also fly a tail dragger and enjoy greasing landings). The problem in America is insurance. When I finished my tri-gear and shopped for insurance, the first question I was asked after telling them I had a Europa was " is it a mono". If it was, they had no interest in insuring me. Also, in America we have free landings and take-offs so normally we fly out of hardtop airports, not out of farmer's fields as was originally planned for the Europa. I do fly into grass strips (my wheel pants are a bit high), but the norm is concrete. I do agree the design is brilliant and the Mono well suited to the European environment - but the learning curve on any tail dragger can be steep and expensive. And insurance companies don't like being in charge of the latter. Gary Leinberger A-237 Tri-Gear 912S Lancaster, Pa. USA -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Europa-List Digest Server Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 3:02 AM Subject: Europa-List Digest: 3 Msgs - 02/12/15 * ================================================= Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive ================================================= Today's complete Europa-List Digest can also be found in either of the two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes and Message Navigation. 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(spcialeffects) 2. 01:17 PM - flap cross-tube hinge alignment query (Rowland Carson) 3. 02:24 PM - Re: Re: Europa for sale (Ivan Shaw) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 07:11:54 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: Monowheel undercarriage 'up' stop? From: "spcialeffects" Hi Clive. I am unable to find the two mods on line and wondered if you could post a link here for them? Many thanks Frank Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=438254#438254 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 01:17:39 PM PST US From: Rowland Carson Subject: Europa-List: flap cross-tube hinge alignment query Monowheel XS, building in UK. Today I thought Id be bonding in to the fuselage floor the FL18 hinge brackets for the FL15 flap actuator cross-tube. I have already rigged the wings with the cross-tube connecting both flaps, the FL18s secured to a straight-edge and the FL15 lugs clamped to the FL16 hinges. The whole thing seems to operate quite smoothly over the whole range when I crouch in the rear fuselage and operate it from the lug near the centre. However, when I got to the part where I remove the hinge screws and stretch a string between the inner flap hinges on the wings to line up the holes in the FL18 brackets, I couldnt get the line straight. I photographed the nylon monofilament line, looking along its length, and measurements on the pictures suggest the brackets need to move forward by between 1.8mm and 2.2mm. I also tried using a laser pointer to provide similar data, shining it through the wing-mounted flap hinge hole and through a 1.5mm orifice centred on the nearer FL18 hole. This was tricky to achieve so the results may be less reliable. Calculations based on how far off-centre the beam appeared to hit the far FL18 suggest that each FL18 might need to move up to 2.7mm forward. I have already chamfered the forward edge of both FL18 slightly to accommodate the fillet of BID where the baggage bay meets the fuselage floor, but I dont want to remove any more metal without some sort of reassurance. Im assuming that cutting into the BID reinforcement between the baggage bay and the fuselage floor is not desirable! Suggestions welcome! in friendship Rowland | Rowland Carson ... that's Rowland with a 'w' ... | http://www.rowlandcarson.org.uk | Skype, Twitter: rowland_carson Facebook: Rowland Carson | pictures: http://picasaweb.google.com/rowlandcarson ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 02:24:41 PM PST US From: "Ivan Shaw" Subject: RE: Europa-List: RE: Europa for sale Hi Tim, Pleased to hear it and glad it was 'no problem'....must be something to do with the Coriolis effect in the southern hemisphere? Regards Ivan -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Timward Sent: 10 February 2015 19:08 Subject: Re: Europa-List: RE: Europa for sale Ivan, After flying Tiger Moths, Piper Cubs, Chipmunks, even Bristol Freighters or "fright ners" I find the Mono Wheel classic far easier to fly. "Not a problem" as they say down here. Cheers, Tim Tim Ward 12 Waiwetu Street Fendalton, Christchurch, 8052 New Zealand. ward.t@xtra.co.nz Ph 64 3 3515166 Mob 0210640221 > On 11/02/2015, at 6:45 am, Ivan Shaw wrote: > > --> > > Hi Bob, > The Mono requires an 'above average pilot' stick and rudder wise. > The pilots that are 'up to it' love them....others all too often > become scared of them and then convert to a tri-gear. All too often before they have invested in some good training! > There is nothing quite as satisfying as 'greasing a Mono' on landing!! > Keep me posted on your test flying. > > Cheers > Ivan > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bob > Fairall > Sent: 10 February 2015 09:46 > To: europa-list@matronics.com > Subject: Europa-List: RE: Europa for sale > > --> > > Oh, and for the purpose of clarity, my new Europa XS is another mono > .......! Simply superb, especially on grass :-) > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bob Fairall > Sent: 09 February 2015 13:05 > To: europa-list@matronics.com > Subject: Europa for sale > > Owing to the completion of my new Europa XS, I am again putting my > first Europa up for sale ..... and at a bargain price! > > Europa eClassicf Mono, G-BXLK - TTA 460 hours. Rotax 912 80hp - Flydat > shows 535 hours. NSI Warp Drive VP prop 214 hours ( lifed at > 750 hours ). Original ground adjustable prop included in the sale. > Over 120 knot cruise on less than 20 litres mogas per hour! > Transponder Mode eCf, intercom, colour Skymap. No accident history. > Permit to 28/07/15. All mandatory mods completed and 1370lb weight > upgrade carried out. 18,000 o.n.o. ( I do have a trailer but it is not > available for sale owing to recent completion of new Europa ) Aircraft > based Surrey. Bob Fairall 07973 408329 bob.fairall@fairalls.co.uk > > Bob Fairall > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message europa-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Europa-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/europa-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/europa-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.