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1. 02:27 AM - SR3000 Woodcomp propeller (AUVRAY Michel)
2. 05:24 AM - Re: Oil pressure (david park)
3. 01:16 PM - Knowing the actual fuel level? (Rick Moss)
4. 01:50 PM - Re: Knowing the actual fuel level? (Robert Borger)
5. 02:10 PM - Re: Knowing the actual fuel level? (Karl Heindl)
6. 04:16 PM - Re: Knowing the actual fuel level? (david park)
7. 04:19 PM - Re: Knowing the actual fuel level? (david park)
8. 08:54 PM - Second hand Flydat (Keith Hickling)
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Subject: | SR3000 Woodcomp propeller |
Hello all,
I search second hand SR3000.
If you have contact me off
Thanks
Michel AUVRAY
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Subject: | Re: Oil pressure |
Thanks Bob,
Waiting to see if Mod required.
Dave
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> On 18 Mar 2015, at 2:03 am, Robert Borger <rlborger@mac.com> wrote:
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> Dave,
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> I relocated my VDO oil pressure sender from the engine to the top of the passenger
footwell area. You can see what I did on my EuropaOwners.org build website.
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> Go to Year #6 Q3 2007 where there is a series of pics showing the relocation
effort. I believe that the final configuration is slightly different than what
is shown. If you have any further questions or would like current pics, let
me know. The aircraft is down for Annual so this is a good time for pictures.
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> You may need to check with the Europa Club to see if there is an LAA approved
mod for relocating the oil pressure sender.
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> Blue skies & tailwinds,
> Bob Borger
> Europa XS Tri, Rotax 914, Airmaster C/S Prop (75 hrs).
> Little Toot Sport Biplane, Lycoming Thunderbolt AEIO-320 EXP
> 3705 Lynchburg Dr.
> Corinth, TX 76208-5331
> Cel: 817-992-1117
> rlborger@mac.com
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> On Mar 17, 2015, at 5:26 PM, david park <dpark748@icloud.com> wrote:
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> Has anyone removed the VDO pressure sender from the engine to the firewall.
> Dave G-LDVO
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Subject: | Knowing the actual fuel level? |
Hi all,
My XS TG has an Avelec electronic fuel gauge, which is useful as a vague indication,
but little else. When it reads 54 litres (the highest it ever reads), I
can still put another 18 litres into the tank. It then reads 54 litres for around
an hour of flight, before dropping in 2 litre increments in a plausible manner.
Bottom line: I only know accurately how much fuel I have when it's overflowing
or empty (excl reserve). Given that the tank can't be dipped, what are you chaps
using for fuel measurement?
Thanks in advance,
Rick
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=439515#439515
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Subject: | Re: Knowing the actual fuel level? |
Rick,
I had the original sight gage installed per Europa instructions. It
only tells you when the fuel =93may=94 be getting low. For a better
idea of the fuel usage, I installed the dual fuel flow option on my
Grand Rapids EIS4000. When calibrated, it seems to be accurate to much
better than a half pint (about 250 cc) in a tank of gas.
When I replaced my leaking tank last year I removed the original, pretty
much useless, sight gage and replaced it with a sight gage that runs
from the bottom of the tank, main side, up between the seats, near the
pilot:
It is also back lit with a string of 12v lEDs. The remainder of the 15
ft (5 meter) string is run around the inside of the tunnel for inside
work illumination. It=92s not shown in the picture but there is a
switch/dimmer for the lighting. I used the ties to mark calibration
points: 06 gal @ bottom of lower P-clip; 07 gal, top of lower P-clip; 08
gal @ first white tie; 09 gal @ 2nd white tie, 10 gal @ 1st black tie;
11 gal @ white tie; 12 gal @ white tie; 13 gal @ white tie; 14 gal @
white tie; 15 gal @ 2nd black tie; 19 gal @ top of upper P-clip; 20 gal
@ top of gage. You can see that in this picture the tank is holding 15
gal.
In the 25 hrs or so I have flown since replacing the tank, this gage has
proven to be almost as accurate as the totalizer down to where the gage
disappears. When the fuel disappears in the gage you are close to a
mandatory switch to reserve and time to find a place to land if you are
not already there.
Blue skies & tailwinds,
Bob Borger
Europa XS Tri, Rotax 914, Airmaster C/S Prop (75 hrs).
Little Toot Sport Biplane, Lycoming Thunderbolt AEIO-320 EXP
3705 Lynchburg Dr.
Corinth, TX 76208-5331
Cel: 817-992-1117
rlborger@mac.com
On Mar 18, 2015, at 3:16 PM, Rick Moss <Rkwmoss@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi all,
My XS TG has an Avelec electronic fuel gauge, which is useful as a vague
indication, but little else. When it reads 54 litres (the highest it
ever reads), I can still put another 18 litres into the tank. It then
reads 54 litres for around an hour of flight, before dropping in 2 litre
increments in a plausible manner.
Bottom line: I only know accurately how much fuel I have when it's
overflowing or empty (excl reserve). Given that the tank can't be
dipped, what are you chaps using for fuel measurement?
Thanks in advance,
Rick
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Subject: | Knowing the actual fuel level? |
Hi Rick=2C
The Avelec should work better than you described. Perhaps you should re-cal
ibrate it. There are also expensive fuel flow indicators like my JPI 450 an
d others. The most reliable and cheapest solution is the sight tube. I use
all 3 . My complaint about the Avelec is that it is difficult to read in su
nlight=2C like all LCD displays. I guess it's my failing eyesight.Karl
> Subject: Europa-List: Knowing the actual fuel level?
> From: Rkwmoss@gmail.com
> Date: Wed=2C 18 Mar 2015 13:16:01 -0700
> To: europa-list@matronics.com
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> Hi all=2C
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> My XS TG has an Avelec electronic fuel gauge=2C which is useful as a vagu
e indication=2C but little else. When it reads 54 litres (the highest it ev
er reads)=2C I can still put another 18 litres into the tank. It then reads
54 litres for around an hour of flight=2C before dropping in 2 litre incre
ments in a plausible manner.
>
> Bottom line: I only know accurately how much fuel I have when it's overfl
owing or empty (excl reserve). Given that the tank can't be dipped=2C what
are you chaps using for fuel measurement?
>
> Thanks in advance=2C
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> Rick
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> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=439515#439515
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Subject: | Re: Knowing the actual fuel level? |
Rick,
I use the following fuel computer. Very accurate once you calibrate it. I use two
senders for flow and return. Easy to set up in the system.
Dave G-LDVO
FC10 + 2 FT60s from support@fdatasystems.com
Sent from my iPad
> On 18 Mar 2015, at 8:16 pm, Rick Moss <Rkwmoss@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Hi all,
>
> My XS TG has an Avelec electronic fuel gauge, which is useful as a vague indication,
but little else. When it reads 54 litres (the highest it ever reads),
I can still put another 18 litres into the tank. It then reads 54 litres for around
an hour of flight, before dropping in 2 litre increments in a plausible
manner.
>
> Bottom line: I only know accurately how much fuel I have when it's overflowing
or empty (excl reserve). Given that the tank can't be dipped, what are you chaps
using for fuel measurement?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Rick
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> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=439515#439515
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Subject: | Re: Knowing the actual fuel level? |
Rick,
I have two capacitance senders for the original Europa fuel gauge, but never been
reliable.
I submitted a mod to fit a dip stick in one of the holes but came unstuck when
LAA wanted a method of ensuring the cap could not be removed when tank full?
Dave
Sent from my iPad
> On 18 Mar 2015, at 8:16 pm, Rick Moss <Rkwmoss@gmail.com> wrote:
>
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> Hi all,
>
> My XS TG has an Avelec electronic fuel gauge, which is useful as a vague indication,
but little else. When it reads 54 litres (the highest it ever reads),
I can still put another 18 litres into the tank. It then reads 54 litres for around
an hour of flight, before dropping in 2 litre increments in a plausible
manner.
>
> Bottom line: I only know accurately how much fuel I have when it's overflowing
or empty (excl reserve). Given that the tank can't be dipped, what are you chaps
using for fuel measurement?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Rick
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> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=439515#439515
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Subject: | Second hand Flydat |
Does anyone have a spare Rotax Flydat with 4 EGT inputs set up for the
Rotax 912 uls they are not using and would be willing to sell? I
don=99t need the sensors, just the flydat box. Mine has just
packed up (error 01) and can=99t be fixed by our local Rotax agent
in New Zealand, and although a more modern EIS would be nice I
don=99t want to have to redo the whole panel to fit it.
Please contact me off list if you have one. keithhickling@clear.net.nz
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