---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 04/02/15: 7 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:43 AM - Re: batch of classic fuel filler pipes being made (Clive Sutton) 2. 01:02 AM - Re: batch of classic fuel filler pipes being made (Clive Sutton) 3. 03:28 AM - Re: Rte of Spring! (rampil) 4. 05:06 AM - Re: Re: batch of classic fuel filler pipes being made (rob zeelenberg) 5. 08:20 AM - Re: Fuel Tank moved!! (Greg Fuchs) 6. 10:12 AM - Re: Fuel Tank moved!! (Mike Gamble) 7. 10:17 AM - Binx nuts torque (William Daniell) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:43:53 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: batch of classic fuel filler pipes being made From: "Clive Sutton" Just for information, I've been in conversation with Karen at the factory and apparently the 'no objection' letter is all that is required from the LAA for Europa to be able to sell these (at last). I understand it's imminent . . . Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=440180#440180 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 01:02:38 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: batch of classic fuel filler pipes being made From: "Clive Sutton" Oops, gave you a bum steer there - the factory are working on a replacement fuel filler solution for the extended baggage bay, replacing the rubber pipe with large bore metal pipework and fluoro-lined silicone rubber end connections. This is because the supplier of the poly filler moulding has 'lost' the mould - meaning there is currently no XS/extended baggage bay filler solution. But as i said, I believe its imminent . . . Dave Goddard at the factory is working on it. BTW i still have the original rubber rubber filler hose (made in January 2001) which i won't use for the above reasons. Although its 15 years old it is unused and there are no signs of perish or cracking. I also have the original/untouched engine cowling halves . . . Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=440181#440181 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 03:28:38 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: Rte of Spring! From: "rampil" Greetings All! With a few replies coming in and the desire to align the Engineering meeting with a Forum that Bud is organizing, I'd like to propose Thursday. More details to follow shortly! Cheers, Ira -------- Ira N224XS Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=440183#440183 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/europavenue_753.jpg ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 05:06:21 AM PST US From: "rob zeelenberg" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: batch of classic fuel filler pipes being made Hi John I would be interested !! europa #157 phpop regards -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- From: JohnFrance Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2015 2:55 PM Subject: Europa-List: Re: batch of classic fuel filler pipes being made [quote="graeme bird"]I am thinking of getting a batch of aluminum fuel filler pipes made for the classic to replace the rubber trunk. Hello to all, I would like to replace the rubber fuel hose on my Classic. Can anyone give me information about the 13070 mod regarding possible suppliers and if anyone is interested in changing their's to get a batch price please let me know? I am based in Grenoble, France Regards John -------- Europa mono Nr 192 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=440063#440063 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 08:20:24 AM PST US From: "Greg Fuchs " Subject: RE: Europa-List: Fuel Tank moved!! Mike, It is possible that the tank will shrink a bit if the fuel is offloaded, possibly causing the outlet rubber hose to move up slightly, and contact the torque tube. This happened to me, anyway. If tank had significant fuel in it, then it might be something else causing the problem.. Regards, Greg _____ From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mike Gamble Sent: Friday, March 27, 2015 8:00 AM Subject: Europa-List: Fuel Tank moved!! After 4 uneventful flying seasons I have been carrying out the annual inspection prior to the 5th. The aircraft had been garaged for 3 months with wings and tailplanes removed and the fuselage supported on dummy spars with wheeled supports. On checking the controls a rubbing sound was evident on moving the stick fore & aft and this was traced to contact of the Pitch torque tube CS10 with the rubber hose securing the port side Tank outlet fitting. Stb side clearance is just adequate. This is very strange as I don't recall any possibility of this happening during construction so a reasonable clearance must have existed then. Has anyone else experienced this? Can the tank have moved UP? What is the fix? Comments and advice please. Mike Gamble XS Mono #440 G-CFMP ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 10:12:40 AM PST US From: "Mike Gamble" Subject: RE: Europa-List: Fuel Tank moved!! Thanks for your input Greg. I had drained the tank which very possibly moved it up a bit but I would not like to think of this happening in flight. Did you measure the clearance from your torque tube with and without fuel? How on earth can I increase this clearance? The manual just gives a suggested 2cm distance tank to floor. Maybe this will generate some more response from the forum. Mike From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Greg Fuchs Sent: 02 April 2015 16:19 Subject: RE: Europa-List: Fuel Tank moved!! Mike, It is possible that the tank will shrink a bit if the fuel is offloaded, possibly causing the outlet rubber hose to move up slightly, and contact the torque tube. This happened to me, anyway. If tank had significant fuel in it, then it might be something else causing the problem.. Regards, Greg _____ From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mike Gamble Sent: Friday, March 27, 2015 8:00 AM Subject: Europa-List: Fuel Tank moved!! After 4 uneventful flying seasons I have been carrying out the annual inspection prior to the 5th. The aircraft had been garaged for 3 months with wings and tailplanes removed and the fuselage supported on dummy spars with wheeled supports. On checking the controls a rubbing sound was evident on moving the stick fore & aft and this was traced to contact of the Pitch torque tube CS10 with the rubber hose securing the port side Tank outlet fitting. Stb side clearance is just adequate. This is very strange as I don't recall any possibility of this happening during construction so a reasonable clearance must have existed then. Has anyone else experienced this? Can the tank have moved UP? What is the fix? Comments and advice please. Mike Gamble XS Mono #440 G-CFMP href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List">http://www.matronhref "http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 10:17:05 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Binx nuts torque From: William Daniell Does anyone know what the torque on the binx nuts which are used for the engine subframe to ring mount is supposed to be? 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