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1. 03:41 AM - Re: Ring mount to subframe question (William Daniell)
2. 07:21 AM - Re: batch of classic fuel filler pipes being made (GBWFH2010)
3. 12:48 PM - Re: Ring mount to subframe question (Neville Eyre)
4. 01:13 PM - Re: Re: batch of classic fuel filler pipes being made (Neville Eyre)
5. 01:29 PM - Re: Re: Nose Wheel Bearing (Bud Yerly)
6. 01:52 PM - Re: Foreign registered Europa (Bud Yerly)
7. 02:17 PM - Re: Re: batch of classic fuel filler pipes being made (Bud Yerly)
8. 11:14 PM - Re: Re: batch of classic fuel filler pipes being made (Neville Eyre)
9. 11:14 PM - Re: Ring mount to subframe question (Neville Eyre)
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| Subject: | Re: Ring mount to subframe question |
Tony
Thanks
Sadly thats not the problem...its the rotax supplied ring mount (suspension
frame in rotax parlance) which has 11mm holes and should have 10mm holes...
I thinking I got the wrong part number...maybe there are two different
frames...
Will
On Apr 4, 2015 10:12 PM, "Tony Renshaw" <tonyrenshaw268@gmail.com> wrote:
> Gidday Will,
> Have you inserted the short steel reinforcements in the fuselage engine
> frame, because if you have the wall thickness has now increased
> dramatically, and the attachment forces now are also shared by the bolts
> holding them in situ, as I vaguely recall. I'd be surprised if you couldn't
> open them out.
> Regards
> Tony Renshaw
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On 5 Apr 2015, at 4:09 am, William Daniell <wdaniell.longport@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Yup....the rotax ring mount has an 11mm hole and the engine mounting frame
> is 10mm.
>
> Can anyone help?
>
> Will
> On Apr 4, 2015 4:37 PM, "William Daniell" <wdaniell.longport@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I am mounting the rotax ring mount to the engine mounting frame using the
>> M10x110 hex head bolts.
>>
>> The issue is that the M10 bolts have quite a lot of slop in the rotax
>> ring mount, my guess is that the rotax ring mount holes are about 1/2 to 1
>> mm larger than the bolts.
>>
>> Is this normal?
>>
>> The bolts fit perfectly in the Europa engine mounting frame.
>>
>> thanks
>>
>> Will
>>
>>
>> William Daniell
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| Subject: | Re: batch of classic fuel filler pipes being made |
Hello Graham,
I am very interested in replacing the old rubber filler pipe in my Classic, so
please could you add me to the list.
Regards
--------
Gordon Grant
G-BWFH
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| Subject: | Re: Ring mount to subframe question |
Hi Will,
That is correct, the holes in the Rotax ring mount are 11mm, 10mm in the Europa
mount, and 10mm bolts......... not clever ? I put a thin 10mm steel washer between
the Europa mount and the Rotax ring mount, prevents the ring mount from
getting chafed. Put grease or thick oil on the bolt shank, they are not plated
?
Cheers,
Nev.
-----Original Message-----
From: William Daniell <wdaniell.longport@gmail.com>
Sent: Sun, Apr 5, 2015 11:41 am
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Ring mount to subframe question
Tony
Thanks
Sadly thats not the problem...its the rotax supplied ring mount (suspension frame
in rotax parlance) which has 11mm holes and should have 10mm holes...
I thinking I got the wrong part number...maybe there are two different frames...
Will
On Apr 4, 2015 10:12 PM, "Tony Renshaw" < tonyrenshaw268@gmail.com> wrote:
Gidday Will,
Have you inserted the short steel reinforcements in the fuselage engine frame,
because if you have the wall thickness has now increased dramatically, and the
attachment forces now are also shared by the bolts holding them in situ, as I
vaguely recall. I'd be surprised if you couldn't open them out.
Regards
Tony Renshaw
Sent from my iPad
On 5 Apr 2015, at 4:09 am, William Daniell < wdaniell.longport@gmail.com> wrote:
Yup....the rotax ring mount has an 11mm hole and the engine mounting frame is 10mm.
Can anyone help?
Will
On Apr 4, 2015 4:37 PM, "William Daniell" < wdaniell.longport@gmail.com>
wrote:
I am mounting the rotax ring mount to the engine mounting frame using the M10x110
hex head bolts.
The issue is that the M10 bolts have quite a lot of slop in the rotax ring mount,
my guess is that the rotax ring mount holes are about 1/2 to 1 mm larger than
the bolts.
Is this normal?
The bolts fit perfectly in the Europa engine mounting frame.
thanks
Will
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| Subject: | Re: batch of classic fuel filler pipes being made |
I had a number made by different companies, with varying success, the last
lot were good, but they will only do in batches of 100..... so I have bough
t a tube bender, and have a tube roller on it's way, if you want a job done
well, do it yourself ? Watch this space.
Biggest hassle will be LaaLaaLand... questions from them included..........
....
1] what make clips were going to be supplied ['' as all clips are not equal
'' ]... Ty wraps would suffice ?
2] The double convoluted fuel proof silicon connector [ made for the job] w
ould have to be '' investigated '', [ but a piece of the old, perished fuel
filler hose made 15+ years ago be the cheapest bidder would be fine ].....
.........
3]The suggested [ by me ] fitting of a rubber grommit where the alloy pipe
passes through the bulkhead to prevent fretting would not be needed as '' t
he customer would smell the fuel leak if it were to wear through '' YES,
REALLY !
And then there are the punters, one such [ not the builder] ranted at me th
at the one I had sent him wouldn't fit [ as in '' nowhere f***ing near '' ]
and moaned about having to pay =C2=A315 postage to return it to me..... ch
ecked out against my pattern, and sent off to a grateful recipient who fitt
ed it in 10 minutes, and reported ''a perfect fit '' ?
That was why I dropped it at that time, but on with the case again.
Cheers,
Nev
-----Original Message-----
From: GBWFH2010 <gaxuk2001@gmail.com>
Sent: Sun, Apr 5, 2015 3:21 pm
Subject: Europa-List: Re: batch of classic fuel filler pipes being made
Hello
Graham,
I am very interested in replacing the old rubber filler pipe in my
Classic, so please could you add me to the list.
Regards
--------
Gordon
Grant
G-BWFH
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| Subject: | Re: Nose Wheel Bearing |
Alan,
The trigear install is brutally strong. Done by any competent builder it is
as strong as an F-4 tailhook.
Bud
-----Original Message-----
From: Alan Carter
Sent: Monday, March 23, 2015 7:20 PM
Subject: Europa-List: Re: Nose Wheel Bearing
Hi Bud.
Hope the weather is good to you this year.
Many thanks for your detailed post on my nose wheel, it is nice to receive
and thanks for your time it is much appreciated . My plane was Number 96 a
Mono, finished in 2000 so guess it the early axial , After about 30 hours
and a couple of prop strikes, it had the Mono Tri Conversion carried out by
Europa Aircraft Com, My guess is a Mono Tri Conversion Leeds to a stronger
aeroplane than the standard Tri gear, just my guess i am not a builder ,
Regards.
Alan
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| Subject: | Re: Foreign registered Europa |
William,
It isn=99t that bad.
The best thing to do is go to www.faa.gov and hit the tab for license
and certificates then aircraft registration. Not a big deal. Quite a
bit of reading to get educated so some goombah doesn=99t lead you
down a bad path. Contact your US FAA Flight Standards District Office
(FSDO) for what they want specifically from you. Normally a letter from
the export country, your bill of sale (sale history) and an application
$5 fee, then a DAR will do an inspection and you get a US airworthiness
inspection provided it is airworthy. Kits are essentially the same,
except it is just the bill of sale and if the kit was registered, the
appropriate paperwork.
Look at the attached pamphlet for a start.
Best Regards,
Bud Yerly
From: William Daniell
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 4:32 PM
Subject: Europa-List: Foreign registered Europa
It is possible that I may be transferred to the US. Does anyone know
how to register a foreign built Europa in the US?
thanks Will
William Daniell
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| Subject: | Re: batch of classic fuel filler pipes being made |
Guys,
For replacement parts for your Rotax, you may find my website quite useful.
Download the .pdf file from the techniques section with all the parts
suppliers for the Europa.
Perhaps someone in the UK could do the same for the UK owners and other
countries. Be my guess and copy it.
We just did a Classic using Stefan Ingemarsson's hoses and clamps.
Inexpensive and well done in comparison to Rotax.
See www.customflightcreations.com
I've also attached my drawing with cut dimensions for our 2 inch fuel filler
tube for the Classic. We also just make a 55 degree pipe for the XS. It
isn't rocket science just finding somebody to do a quality weld job. We
have S&S welding which has done fuel tanks, trailers, fuel tubes, brake
mounts, you name it and the welds are impeccable...
Regards,
Bud Yerly
-----Original Message-----
From: GBWFH2010
Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2015 10:20 AM
Subject: Europa-List: Re: batch of classic fuel filler pipes being made
Hello Graham,
I am very interested in replacing the old rubber filler pipe in my Classic,
so please could you add me to the list.
Regards
--------
Gordon Grant
G-BWFH
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=440294#440294
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| Subject: | Re: batch of classic fuel filler pipes being made |
-----Original Message-----
From: Neville Eyre <neveyre@aol.com>
Sent: Sun, Apr 5, 2015 9:12 pm
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: batch of classic fuel filler pipes being made
I had a number made by different companies, with varying success, the la
st lot were good, but they will only do in batches of 100..... so I have bo
ught a tube bender, and have a tube roller on it's way, if you want a job d
one well, do it yourself ? Watch this space.
Biggest hassle will be LaaLaaLand... questions from them included..........
....
1] what make clips were going to be supplied ['' as all clips are not equal
'' ]... Ty wraps would suffice ?
2] The double convoluted fuel proof silicon connector [ made for the job] w
ould have to be '' investigated '', [ but a piece of the old, perished fuel
filler hose made 15+ years ago be the cheapest bidder would be fine ].....
.........
3]The suggested [ by me ] fitting of a rubber grommit where the alloy pipe
passes through the bulkhead to prevent fretting would not be needed as '' t
he customer would smell the fuel leak if it were to wear through '' YES,
REALLY !
And then there are the punters, one such [ not the builder] ranted at me th
at the one I had sent him wouldn't fit [ as in '' nowhere f***ing near '' ]
and moaned about having to pay =C2=A315 postage to return it to me..... ch
ecked out against my pattern, and sent off to a grateful recipient who fitt
ed it in 10 minutes, and reported ''a perfect fit '' ?
That was why I dropped it at that time, but on with the case again.
Cheers,
Nev
-----Original Message-----
From: GBWFH2010 <gaxuk2001@gmail.com>
To: europa-list <europa-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Sun, Apr 5, 2015 3:21 pm
Subject: Europa-List: Re: batch of classic fuel filler pipes being made
Hello
Graham,
I am very interested in replacing the old rubber filler pipe in my
Classic, so please could you add me to the list.
Regards
--------
Gordon
Grant
G-BWFH
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| Subject: | Re: Ring mount to subframe question |
-----Original Message-----
From: Neville Eyre <neveyre@aol.com>
Sent: Sun, Apr 5, 2015 8:47 pm
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Ring mount to subframe question
Hi Will,
That is correct, the holes in the Rotax ring mount are 11mm, 10mm in the Europa
mount, and 10mm bolts......... not clever ? I put a thin 10mm steel washer between
the Europa mount and the Rotax ring mount, prevents the ring mount from
getting chafed. Put grease or thick oil on the bolt shank, they are not plated
?
Cheers,
Nev.
-----Original Message-----
From: William Daniell <wdaniell.longport@gmail.com>
To: europa-list <europa-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Sun, Apr 5, 2015 11:41 am
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Ring mount to subframe question
Tony
Thanks
Sadly thats not the problem...its the rotax supplied ring mount (suspension frame
in rotax parlance) which has 11mm holes and should have 10mm holes...
I thinking I got the wrong part number...maybe there are two different frames...
Will
On Apr 4, 2015 10:12 PM, "Tony Renshaw" < tonyrenshaw268@gmail.com> wrote:
Gidday Will,
Have you inserted the short steel reinforcements in the fuselage engine frame,
because if you have the wall thickness has now increased dramatically, and the
attachment forces now are also shared by the bolts holding them in situ, as
I vaguely recall. I'd be surprised if you couldn't open them out.
Regards
Tony Renshaw
Sent from my iPad
On 5 Apr 2015, at 4:09 am, William Daniell < wdaniell.longport@gmail.com>
wrote:
Yup....the rotax ring mount has an 11mm hole and the engine mounting frame is 10mm.
Can anyone help?
Will
On Apr 4, 2015 4:37 PM, "William Daniell" < wdaniell.longport@gmail.com>
wrote:
I am mounting the rotax ring mount to the engine mounting frame using the M10x110
hex head bolts.
The issue is that the M10 bolts have quite a lot of slop in the rotax ring mount,
my guess is that the rotax ring mount holes are about 1/2 to 1 mm larger than
the bolts.
Is this normal?
The bolts fit perfectly in the Europa engine mounting frame.
thanks
Will
William Daniell
LONGPORT
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