---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 04/09/15: 9 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 01:27 AM - Trailer (John Wighton) 2. 02:29 AM - Re: Engine Bolts (Kingsley Hurst) 3. 03:14 AM - Re: Engine Bolts (John Wighton) 4. 03:40 AM - Re: Trailer (Roland) 5. 05:03 AM - Re: Re: Engine Bolts (Martin Tuck) 6. 11:42 AM - Re: Nose Wheel Bearing (Alan Carter) 7. 01:11 PM - Re: Engine Bolts (John Wighton) 8. 01:33 PM - flap deflection question (Rowland Carson) 9. 03:49 PM - Re: Re: Engine Bolts (Martin Tuck) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 01:27:34 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Trailer From: "John Wighton" Roland, Have you details/drawings of the trailer? Or details of the supplier? My Europa is based at EGSL in a new steel hangar with 7 other aircraft, it is very nice but also costly (GBP225+20%VAT per month) making it the most significant fixed/variable cost. In a typical year (50 hours) this amounts to GBP64.80 of the total hourly cost. Ideally l would trailer the aircraft from Oct to Apr each year and use the hangar at other times. But such is the demand for hangarage in Essex this option is not possible (l waited nearly 2 years for a hangar space) unless l parked it outside in the summer. Regards John -------- John Wighton Europa XS trigear G-IPOD Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=440478#440478 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 02:29:40 AM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: Engine Bolts From: Kingsley Hurst Martin, I inserted mine from the rear. SO much easier as you suggest. Have to wonder why it wasn't called out in the manual?? Best regards Kingsley in Oz. Sent from my iPhone > On 9 Apr 2015, at 11:55 am, Martin Tuck wrote: > > I'm changing out the rubber engine mounts and performing Mo 72. I had a terrible job getting the split pins out of the two lower engine mounting bolts. I was thinking, is there anything preventing me from reinstalling these lower bolts backwards so I can easily get the split pins back in? Good idea or not advisable? ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 03:14:51 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: Engine Bolts From: "John Wighton" Martin, There should be no structural reason why the bolt needs to be aligned in a particular direction, as they are fore-aft the 'normal' convention (for vertical bolts) does not apply. Reading the manual (XS 912 installation) it states that the AN5-41 should be mounted lower two pointing forward and upper two pointing aft. This applies to the MT05 mount. But for the Classic with the MT01 mount the orientation shows the lower bolts as pointing aft. Regards John -------- John Wighton Europa XS trigear G-IPOD Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=440481#440481 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/912_xs_174.jpg ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 03:40:25 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: Trailer From: "Roland" Hi John, it's the same at my homebase EDLE - 340 incl. tax/month. My trailer is from Anschau in Germany http://www.anschau.de/englishversion.htm It was originally built for a MCR 01, then modified for a Dallach Fascination when I bought it (for 7000 ) and then converted (for another 4000 ) for my Europa by the factory. Axel Anschau is also prepared to design a purpose fit trailer from scratch for the Europa and I guess the basic price for a similar model is about 16-17k . That sounds expensive first but the trailer pays off in a few years. Rigging and de-rigging is extra effort but on the other hand one avoids hangar rash and is completely autarkic also when doing maintenance at home or transporting the plane anywhere independent of the weather when needed. Bob Harrison (G-PTAG) and Steve Pitt (G-SMDH) also have closed trailers in the UK. Regards Roland Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=440482#440482 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 05:03:13 AM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Engine Bolts From: Martin Tuck Thanks John, they must have changed the manual at some point. I would have used the first set of instructions ( pre-official manual). Martin Sent from my iPad > On Apr 9, 2015, at 5:14 AM, John Wighton wrote: > > > Martin, > There should be no structural reason why the bolt needs to be aligned in a particular direction, as they are fore-aft the 'normal' convention (for vertical bolts) does not apply. > > Reading the manual (XS 912 installation) it states that the AN5-41 should be mounted lower two pointing forward and upper two pointing aft. This applies to the MT05 mount. > > But for the Classic with the MT01 mount the orientation shows the lower bolts as pointing aft. > > Regards > John > > -------- > John Wighton > Europa XS trigear G-IPOD > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=440481#440481 > > > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/912_xs_174.jpg > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 11:42:56 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: Nose Wheel Bearing From: "Alan Carter" Hi Bud, Change of topic, I am not a builder but I look closely how things are made, and I will say I think I could have made a better job of some design components. I have 25000 hour and are not going to damage anyone's aeroplane by giving it a little wiggle, which I have found a number of common wear and tear, just little things like the wear In the stablator hinges, and plastic cups on the control arm. seems to wear more on the port side. Wish some one produced a list of common wear in components one could check. However I have also noticed on a few planes a small hair line crack some Europa's have it on both sides and some one only one side, running up from the corner of the fusalarge of wear the spare slides into the fuselage, I would say it just a crack in the jell coat and of no structural relevants caused by flexing of the skin, Have you come across this before. Regards Alan Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=440521#440521 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 01:11:08 PM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: Engine Bolts From: "John Wighton" Martin, They are all online now. See: http://www.europa-aircraft.com/assistance/manuals.php Regards, John -------- John Wighton Europa XS trigear G-IPOD Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=440528#440528 ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 01:33:16 PM PST US From: Rowland Carson Subject: Europa-List: flap deflection question I spent most of today fiddling with the flap actuating pushrod, trying to get an acceptable range of movement in the flaps. Eventually got to the state where the port flap was travelling 26.3 degrees and the starboard one 26.9 degrees. They both looked pretty well-aligned with the wing/flap template when retracted. I wondered if this is an acceptable amount of differential. Then I thought I ought to check the movement with the outrigger legs fitted. After fitting them, the extended angles of both flaps are closely similar to those recorded before I fitted the outriggers, but the retracted positions are both drooping somewhat. The travel now is 25.3 degrees (port) and 26.0 degrees (starboard). Pushing down on the outrigger legs causes the flaps to droop a bit more, and pulling up on them allows the flaps to adopt the previously-observed fully retracted position. I think I have assembled the outrigger mechanism correctly and the outrigger legs are locking down very securely. Is there something I might have missed that causes this droop? Will air loads pull the flaps into the fully retracted position when aloft? What, if anything, can (or should) I do about it? All input welcomed. in friendship Rowland | Rowland Carson ... that's Rowland with a 'w' ... | http://www.rowlandcarson.org.uk | Skype, Twitter: rowland_carson Facebook: Rowland Carson | pictures: http://picasaweb.google.com/rowlandcarson ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 03:49:52 PM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Engine Bolts From: Martin Tuck Thanks John, never knew they were there! All the best, Martin Sent from my iPad > On Apr 9, 2015, at 3:10 PM, John Wighton wrote: > > > Martin, > > They are all online now. > > See: http://www.europa-aircraft.com/assistance/manuals.php > > Regards, > John > > -------- > John Wighton > Europa XS trigear G-IPOD > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=440528#440528 > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message europa-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Europa-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/europa-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/europa-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.