---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 04/11/15: 10 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 06:13 AM - Sun N Fun 2015 (h&jeuropa) 2. 09:45 AM - Autopilot servo instalation (William Daniell) 3. 10:08 AM - Re: Autopilot servo instalation (Alain Chabert) 4. 10:40 AM - Re: Sun N Fun 2015 (rampil) 5. 11:18 AM - C-FIRS (Scott Knowlton) 6. 11:43 AM - Electronic Flap position indicator (willydewey) 7. 12:14 PM - Re: Electronic Flap position indicator (Kevin Challis) 8. 12:33 PM - Re: C-FIRS (h&jeuropa) 9. 12:48 PM - Re: Electronic Flap position indicator (willydewey) 10. 01:40 PM - Re: Electronic Flap position indicator (Greg Fuchs) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 06:13:38 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Sun N Fun 2015 From: "h&jeuropa" I'd like to start this thread as the go to place for those coming to or at SNF. A similar thread proved useful at Oshkosh last summer. Just post a reply to add your information to this thread. An informal get together each day at Custom Flight Creations booth N055 at 11 am will give us a chance to meet and chat. Ira Rampil is coordinating the annual Engineering Meeting for Thursday evening. Steve Pitt from the Europa Club will be in attendance with the latest copy of the Europa Flyer. I will have the most current version of the spreadsheet of Europa owners and builders available at Bud's booth. Stop by and check and update your contact information. Europas coming known at this time (Saturday, 4/11) are: Ira Rampil N224XS John Wigney N262WF HBC Kevin Klinefelter N211KA Jim & Heather Butcher N241BW HBC Jim & Heather Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=440629#440629 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 09:45:28 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Autopilot servo instalation From: William Daniell I have seen searching through the list that there are some alternatives to the major surgery required for Mod 75 and 76. For example I saw some correspondence between Raimo and Bob Gowing connecting servo to the tail plane torque tube using a bracket. I assume that the service is mounted on a fiberglass bracket mounted on the floor .... Could I prevail on anyone who has who has an alternative to the official mods and which does not require major surgery send me a pic please. Many thanks Will William Daniell LONGPORT +57 310 295 0744 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 10:08:38 AM PST US From: Alain Chabert Subject: Re: Europa-List: Autopilot servo instalation Hello, Look at the solution I adopted from 330 hours and is much simpler than the proposed mod. Regards *Alain CHABERT* __ Le 11/04/2015 18:44, William Daniell a crit : > I have seen searching through the list that there are some > alternatives to the major surgery required for Mod 75 and 76. > > For example I saw some correspondence between Raimo and Bob Gowing > connecting servo to the tail plane torque tube using a bracket. I > assume that the service is mounted on a fiberglass bracket mounted on > the floor .... > > Could I prevail on anyone who has who has an alternative to the > official mods and which does not require major surgery send me a pic > please. > > Many thanks > > Will > > > William Daniell > LONGPORT > +57 310 295 0744 > * > > > * ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 10:40:34 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: Sun N Fun 2015 From: "rampil" Excellent! Thanks Jim! Let me add that Bud is planning on having a Forum in the classroom building early Thursday afternoon. -------- Ira N224XS Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=440651#440651 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 11:18:25 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: C-FIRS From: Scott Knowlton Gents, I'm a member of Matronics on the Pietenpol builders list. I'm wondering if any of you might be able to give me the contact info for Karl Heindi, the owner of C-FIRS. Myself and a partner are looking at a Europa XS and are only a few hours from him. The aircraft we are looking at is across the country and we'd both like to see Karl's aircraft and speak with him prior to making the commitment to travel a much greater distance. Thank you. Scott Knowlton Sent from my iPad ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 11:43:03 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Electronic Flap position indicator From: "willydewey" Has any member tried to install a flap position indicator rather than rely on the actual markers on the flaps themselves? There are various types of panel mounted indicators available and combined with a sensor on the flap actuating tube it should work ok. I am just fishing for ideas Bill -------- Give a wise man knowledge and he will be yet wiser Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=440658#440658 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 12:14:39 PM PST US From: Kevin Challis Subject: Re: Europa-List: Electronic Flap position indicator Isn't this just over complicating matters. Looking out of the window is fool proof nothing to go wrong. I love gadgets but can't justify this one. Kevin Challis > On 11 Apr 2015, at 19:42, willydewey wrote: > > > Has any member tried to install a flap position indicator rather than rely on the actual markers on the flaps themselves? > There are various types of panel mounted indicators available and > combined with a sensor on the flap actuating tube it should work ok. > I am just fishing for ideas > Bill > > -------- > Give a wise man knowledge and he will be yet wiser > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=440658#440658 > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 12:33:19 PM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: C-FIRS From: "h&jeuropa" Try kheindl@msn.com Jim Butcher Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=440662#440662 ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 12:48:02 PM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: Electronic Flap position indicator From: "willydewey" I very much agree with you Kevin, but my neck gets cramp sometimes temporary restricting movement. A panel indicator would help on those occasions that's why I posted the request. Regards Bill -------- Give a wise man knowledge and he will be yet wiser Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=440664#440664 ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 01:40:36 PM PST US From: "Greg Fuchs " Subject: RE: Europa-List: Electronic Flap position indicator The servo that comes with our Europa has a 10-position LED light which will report the position of the flap. If you have electric flaps, then you already have it, since it comes with the kit. If not, the same company that manufactures the electric servo's to move the flaps also has a sensor that you can mount to the flap mechanism (whether you have electric flaps or not), that can be used to provide positioning data. Greg -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of willydewey Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2015 11:42 AM Subject: Europa-List: Electronic Flap position indicator Has any member tried to install a flap position indicator rather than rely on the actual markers on the flaps themselves? There are various types of panel mounted indicators available and combined with a sensor on the flap actuating tube it should work ok. 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