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Fri 04/17/15


Total Messages Posted: 8



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     1. 12:21 AM - Re: Mounting cameras externally (Richard Lamprey)
     2. 02:17 AM - Re: Re: Mounting cameras externally (Pete)
     3. 03:53 PM - XS exhaust down pipe crack (fireflier)
     4. 05:35 PM - First Fueling (Fred Klein)
     5. 06:01 PM - Re: First Fueling (Robert Borger)
     6. 06:23 PM - Re: First Fueling (Fred Klein)
     7. 06:39 PM - Re: First Fueling (Robert Borger)
     8. 09:17 PM - Re: First Fueling (Bud Yerly)
 
 
 


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    Time: 12:21:19 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Mounting cameras externally
    From: "Richard Lamprey" <lamprey.richard@gmail.com>
    Hi Rick, what angle/ aspect do you want to capture in flight? I have mounted two Mobius mini-cams under my Europa (Classic) fuselage, pointing down/sideways and left/right at 45 degrees for wildlife counts in Kenya, works a treat. Plus extra batteries gives 5 hours on the cameras. (Mobius great for this sort of thing, better than GoPro in many ways). This site has always refused to attach my pictures, I wont even try now, but can send you off-thread if I have your email address. mine lamprey.richard@gmail.com. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=440943#440943


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    Time: 02:17:30 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Mounting cameras externally
    From: Pete <peterz@zutrasoft.com>
    Hi Richard, I would do be grateful for some of the pics! I also fly mobius's (great value!), and would be very interested to hear how you added battery life. Many thanks, Pete A239 stil in a pile of parts, C-IPWZ flying and having a ball.... > On Apr 17, 2015, at 3:18 AM, Richard Lamprey <lamprey.richard@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Hi Rick, what angle/ aspect do you want to capture in flight? I have mounted two Mobius mini-cams under my Europa (Classic) fuselage, pointing down/sideways and left/right at 45 degrees for wildlife counts in Kenya, works a treat. Plus extra batteries gives 5 hours on the cameras. (Mobius great for this sort of thing, better than GoPro in many ways). This site has always refused to attach my pictures, I wont even try now, but can send you off-thread if I have your email address. mine lamprey.richard@gmail.com. > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=440943#440943 > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 03:53:18 PM PST US
    Subject: XS exhaust down pipe crack
    From: "fireflier" <fireflier@btinternet.com>
    Hi Whilst flying today my exhaust down pipe on no 4 cylinder developed a crack as shown in the attached photo. I have done a search of the list and found one further history of this type of failure on g-tern. This was back in 2012 but there wasn't any conclusive answers as to what has caused this type of failure. My exhaust is a CKT engineering system fitted to a rotax 912uls with woodcomp sr3000 vp prop, europa XS. The exhaust system has had approx 30 hrs use before this failure. I have sent the owner of G-tern a PM through this forum to see if he can Give me any further information as to possible cause and what soloution's he has had to rectify the problem he had back kn 2012. If anyone else could help or provide any possible answers to this type of failure, it would be much appreciated. Many thanks Donald G-PUPY -------- Fireflier Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=440956#440956 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/image_787.jpg


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    Time: 05:35:52 PM PST US
    From: Fred Klein <fklein@orcasonline.com>
    Subject: First Fueling
    Gents Who among you mono-builders can remember how much fuel was needed when introduced to our beloved rotomolded fuel tanks for the first timein order for fuel to flow thru the selector valve (located per build manual) and thence aft to assorted pumps and filters? I=99ve put in 5 (US) gallons and can get nary a drop out of my gascolator which is mounted aft of the baggage bay and considerably lower than the main and reserve fittings on the selector valve. (Both main and reserve fuel drains function fine, and the aircraft is sitting on it=99s main LG and tail wheel.) A corollary question is: how much unusable fuel is carried aboard a mono with standard tank? Fred


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    Time: 06:01:37 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: First Fueling
    From: Robert Borger <rlborger@mac.com>
    Fred, To answer your first question: I don=99t know as it will depend on your aircraft. BUT, you will have to add more than 5 gallons, which is just about enough to cover the hump. You will need to add sufficient fuel to a level well above the fuel selector valve. With a monowheel sitting on its tail, probably more than half a tank. Once you reach a level over the valve it should fill the remainder of the line down to the pumps. Hope these tidbits help. Blue skies & tailwinds, Bob Borger Europa XS Tri, Rotax 914, Airmaster C/S Prop (75 hrs). Little Toot Sport Biplane, Lycoming Thunderbolt AEIO-320 EXP 3705 Lynchburg Dr. Corinth, TX 76208-5331 Cel: 817-992-1117 rlborger@mac.com <mailto:rlborger@mac.com> On Apr 17, 2015, at 7:34 PM, Fred Klein <fklein@orcasonline.com> wrote: Gents Who among you mono-builders can remember how much fuel was needed when introduced to our beloved rotomolded fuel tanks for the first timein order for fuel to flow thru the selector valve (located per build manual) and thence aft to assorted pumps and filters? I=99ve put in 5 (US) gallons and can get nary a drop out of my gascolator which is mounted aft of the baggage bay and considerably lower than the main and reserve fittings on the selector valve. (Both main and reserve fuel drains function fine, and the aircraft is sitting on it=99s main LG and tail wheel.) A corollary question is: how much unusable fuel is carried aboard a mono with standard tank? Fred <http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List> <http://www.matronics.com/contribution>


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    Time: 06:23:59 PM PST US
    From: Fred Klein <fklein@orcasonline.com>
    Subject: Re: First Fueling
    Thanks BobI'm taking baby steps w/ the volatile fluidsBT W, here on my island, I can get ethanol-free fuel at marinasF. > On Apr 17, 2015, at 5:58 PM, Robert Borger <rlborger@mac.com> wrote: > > Fred, > > To answer your first question: I don=99t know as it will depend on your aircraft. > > BUT, you will have to add more than 5 gallons, which is just about enough to cover the hump. You will need to add sufficient fuel to a level well above the fuel selector valve. With a monowheel sitting on its tail, probably more than half a tank. Once you reach a level over the valve it should fill the remainder of the line down to the pumps. > > Hope these tidbits help. > > Blue skies & tailwinds, > Bob Borger > Europa XS Tri, Rotax 914, Airmaster C/S Prop (75 hrs). > Little Toot Sport Biplane, Lycoming Thunderbolt AEIO-320 EXP > 3705 Lynchburg Dr. > Corinth, TX 76208-5331 > Cel: 817-992-1117 > rlborger@mac.com <mailto:rlborger@mac.com> > > On Apr 17, 2015, at 7:34 PM, Fred Klein <fklein@orcasonline.com <mailto:fklein@orcasonline.com>> wrote: > > Gents > > Who among you mono-builders can remember how much fuel was neededwhen introduced to our beloved rotomolded fuel tanks for the first timein order for fuel to flow thru the selector valve (located per build manual) and thence aft to assorted pumps and filters? > > I=99ve put in 5 (US) gallons and can get nary a drop out of my gascolator which is mounted aft of the baggage bay and considerably lower than the main and reserve fittings on the selector valve. > > (Both main and reserve fuel drains function fine, and the aircraft is sitting on it=99s main LG and tail wheel.) > > A corollary question is: how much unusable fuel is carried aboard a mono with standard tank? > > Fred > > > class="">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List > class="">http://forums.matronics.com > class="">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > > > <http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List> <http://www.matronics.com/contribution> >


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    Time: 06:39:19 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: First Fueling
    From: Robert Borger <rlborger@mac.com>
    Fred, Nothing wrong with baby steps and gasoline (of any flavor). Take it easy and careful. You are a lucky fellow to be able to find ethanol-free fuel. We have a marina on Lewisville Lake, but you have to drive up in a boat to get fuel there. I generally stick with 100LL and accept that I=99ll have to change the oil and check the plugs. Bob On Apr 17, 2015, at 8:23 PM, Fred Klein <fklein@orcasonline.com> wrote: Thanks BobI'm taking baby steps w/ the volatile fluidsBT W, here on my island, I can get ethanol-free fuel at marinasF.


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    Time: 09:17:16 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: First Fueling
    From: Bud Yerly <budyerly@msn.com>
    Fred=2C Gascolators do not prime well. I would check for an air leak. Andairs are well made and pull a vacuum. The standard diaphragm pump does not pull ai r well enough for some brands. If it won't prime the engine with 2.5 gallo ns on the ground=2C will it do it in the air? Ground Test war story: Ran the main dry=2C flipped to aux and it would not self prime without more head pressure. Could not find a leak but the gasc olator was installed slightly above tank bottom level. With 10 gallons it would prime. It was a trigear. I know they have used gascolators in a/c f or ever=2C but they should be the lowest point in the system. That is=2C t he bowl outside=2C below the belly. That is why I don't use them and won't install one. To easy to screw up. Besides=2C water does not condense in the tanks and filters work as well. Most experimental takeoff accidents are fuel and engine related. Make them flawless then test for fuel exhaustion=2C on one side then switch and hope fully keep running. Clean your fuel lines before hooking to the engine. A common assumption is the filter missed some dirt/ debris and the gascolators just prior to the engine caught it. Flush and flush again. My two cents. Bud Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID On Apr 17=2C 2015 8:39 PM=2C Fred Klein <fklein@orcasonline.com> wrote: Gents Who among you mono-builders can remember how much fuel was neededw hen introduced to our beloved rotomolded fuel tanks for the first time in order for fuel to flow thru the selector valve (located per build manual) and thence aft to assorted pumps and filters? I=99ve put in 5 (US) gallons and can get nary a drop out of my gascol ator which is mounted aft of the baggage bay and considerably lower than th e main and reserve fittings on the selector valve. (Both main and reserve fuel drains function fine=2C and the aircraft is sit ting on it=99s main LG and tail wheel.) A corollary question is: how much unusable fuel is carried aboard a mono wi th standard tank? Fred




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