---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 04/20/15: 8 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:34 AM - Re: Re: Compressing Rubber Mounts (GRAHAM SINGLETON) 2. 01:12 AM - Re: Compressing Rubber Mounts (davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk) 3. 02:15 AM - Re: Compressing Rubber Mounts (GRAHAM SINGLETON) 4. 07:31 AM - Re: Compressing Rubber Mounts (John Wigney) 5. 07:49 AM - Re: Re: Compressing Rubber Mounts (GRAHAM SINGLETON) 6. 12:38 PM - Re: Re: Compressing Rubber Mounts (david park) 7. 07:21 PM - Re: Compressing Rubber Mounts (Martin Tuck) 8. 09:12 PM - Re: Europaowners.org website (SteveD) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:34:16 AM PST US From: GRAHAM SINGLETON Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Compressing Rubber Mounts Jonathanthe rubber mounts on the Classic were not "Lord", unless supplied b y Rotax. The ones that came with the Classic were much harder. rubber. They came from a different supplier. Graham On Monday, 20 April 2015, 7:04, JonSmith wrote: k> Hi Martin, I remember having the exact problem you describe when I built mi ne - the uncompressed assembly being longer then the bl@@dy bolts! I seem to remember assembling and compressing the mounts in a vice off the aircraft with the nuts and bolts, binding them tightly with locking wire, r emoving the bolts, assembling onto the aircraft, snipping the locking wire off then finally tightening them permanently.=C2- (Then finding the whole things got to come off again for something else....!).=C2- Took a while to perfect the technique and doubtless most other people have got a far mor e elegant method.....! -------- G-TERN Classic Mono Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=441032#441032 S - - =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- -Matt Dralle, List Admin. ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 01:12:53 AM PST US From: davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk Subject: Re: Europa-List: Compressing Rubber Mounts Martin, A couple of those long adjustable clamps that carpenters use for compressing things like joints on chairs, did the job for me. Regards, David Joyce, GXSDJ On 2015-04-19 23:22, Martin Tuck wrote: > > I'm busy rehanging the engine with fresh rubber mounts. > > Is there an easier way of compressing the rubber mounts such that you can get the threads of each bolt to show through enough to put the washers and nut on? > > When I installed the engine first time round I seem to remember struggling with some kind of clamp but I can't remember what I did now. I figured this must be a common problem so perhaps I've missed a trick. > > Any help would be appreciated. > > Regards, > Martin Tuck > Links: ------ [1] http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List [2] http://forums.matronics.com [3] http://www.matronics.com/contribution ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 02:15:54 AM PST US From: GRAHAM SINGLETON Subject: Re: Europa-List: Compressing Rubber Mounts I remember what I did now, (from 20 years ago!) I used longer bolts and ext ra washers. Graham On Monday, 20 April 2015, 9:11, "davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk" wrote: Martin, A couple of those long adjustable clamps that carpenters use for c ompressing things like joints on chairs, did the job for me. Regards, David Joyce, GXSDJ=C2-=C2-On 2015-04-19 23:22, Martin Tuck wrote: I'm busy rehanging the engine with fresh rubber mounts. Is there an easier way of compressing the rubber mounts such that you can g et the threads of each bolt to show through enough to put the washers and n ut on? When I installed the engine first time round I seem to remember struggling with some kind of clamp but I can't remember what I did now. I figured this must be a common problem so perhaps I've missed a trick. Any help would be appreciated. Regards, Martin Tuck ttp://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List ics.com .matronics.com/contribution ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:31:47 AM PST US From: John Wigney Subject: Europa-List: Re: Compressing Rubber Mounts Hi Martin, It is a long time ago, but I think that I bought some 1/4" hardware threaded rod and (i) cut it into 4 judicious lengths. (ii) I then bolted the whole assembly up tight at each mount. (iii) I then removed one threaded rod at a time and inserted the correct bolt. I think that works. Cheers, John N262WF, mono XS, 912S Mooresville, North Carolina From: Martin Tuck Subject: Europa-List: Compressing Rubber Mounts I'm busy rehanging the engine with fresh rubber mounts. Is there an easier way of compressing the rubber mounts such that you can get the threads of each bolt to show through enough to put the washers and nut on? When I installed the engine first time round I seem to remember struggling with some kind of clamp but I can't remember what I did now. I figured this must be a common problem so perhaps I've missed a trick. Any help would be appreciated. Regards, Martin Tuck ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 07:49:55 AM PST US From: GRAHAM SINGLETON Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Compressing Rubber Mounts I think it does work JohnI did something similarGraham On Monday, 20 April 2015, 15:32, John Wigney wrote: Hi Martin, It is a long time ago, but I think that I bought some 1/4" hardware threaded rod and (i) cut it into 4 judicious lengths. (ii) I then bolted the whole assembly up tight at each mount. (iii) I then removed one threaded rod at a time and inserted the correct bolt. I think that works. Cheers, John N262WF, mono XS, 912S Mooresville, North Carolina From: Martin Tuck Subject: Europa-List: Compressing Rubber Mounts I'm busy rehanging the engine with fresh rubber mounts. Is there an easier way of compressing the rubber mounts such that you can get the threads of each bolt to show through enough to put the washers and nut on? When I installed the engine first time round I seem to remember struggling with some kind of clamp but I can't remember what I did now. I figured this must be a common problem so perhaps I've missed a trick. Any help would be appreciated. Regards, Martin Tuck S - - =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- -Matt Dralle, List Admin. ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 12:38:01 PM PST US From: david park Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Compressing Rubber Mounts Ditto Dave Park G-LDVO Sent from my iPhone > On 20 Apr 2015, at 15:46, GRAHAM SINGLETON wrote: > > I think it does work John > I did something similar > Graham > > > > On Monday, 20 April 2015, 15:32, John Wigney w rote: > > > > Hi Martin, > > It is a long time ago, but I think that I bought some 1/4" hardware > threaded rod and (i) cut it into 4 judicious lengths. > (ii) I then bolted the whole assembly up tight at each mount. > (iii) I then removed one threaded rod at a time and inserted the correct > bolt. > > I think that works. > > Cheers, John > N262WF, mono XS, 912S > Mooresville, North Carolina > > From: Martin Tuck > Subject: Europa-List: Compressing Rubber Mounts > > > I'm busy rehanging the engine with fresh rubber mounts. > > Is there an easier way of compressing the rubber mounts such that you > can get the threads of each bolt to show through enough to put the > washers and nut on? > > When I installed the engine first time round I seem to remember > struggling with some kind of clamp but I can't remember what I did now. > I figured this must be a common problem so perhaps I've missed a trick. > > Any help would be appreciated. > > Regards, > Martin Tuck > http://forums.matronics.com > ; -Matt Dralcontribution" target="_blank">http://www.m atronics.com/contribution > > > > > > 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 07:21:52 PM PST US From: Martin Tuck Subject: Europa-List: Re: Compressing Rubber Mounts Thanks all for suggestions. I managed to get them all done tonight using a combination of tie wraps and a small clamp along with longer bolts to compress the rubbers first. Then replaced each one with the aircraft grade AN5 bolt. Took about an hour and it wasn't easy as the tie wraps kept slipping off the curved cap washers at first. The bottom ones were easier as the weight of the engine compressed one side of the rubber mount enough that I could get the washers and nut on. All the best, Martin On 4/20/2015 9:30 AM, John Wigney wrote: > Hi Martin, > > It is a long time ago, but I think that I bought some 1/4" hardware > threaded rod and (i) cut it into 4 judicious lengths. > (ii) I then bolted the whole assembly up tight at each mount. > (iii) I then removed one threaded rod at a time and inserted the > correct bolt. > > I think that works. > > Cheers, John > N262WF, mono XS, 912S > Mooresville, North Carolina > > From: Martin Tuck > Subject: Europa-List: Compressing Rubber Mounts > > > I'm busy rehanging the engine with fresh rubber mounts. > > Is there an easier way of compressing the rubber mounts such that you > can get the threads of each bolt to show through enough to put the > washers and nut on? > > When I installed the engine first time round I seem to remember > struggling with some kind of clamp but I can't remember what I did now. > I figured this must be a common problem so perhaps I've missed a trick. > > Any help would be appreciated. > > Regards, > Martin Tuck > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 09:12:13 PM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: Europaowners.org website From: "SteveD" Hello everyone, EuropaOwners.org is NOT closing. The developers of Gallery the software that the site is based on is no longer going to provide updates. As an example, the Matronics site runs on phpbb2 and that has not been supported for years, and the site continues to run smoothly. I see no reason that EuropaOwners should not be able to do the same. I'ts disappointing and worrisome that they are going to shut the site down completely at some point but don't give any indication when. No need to be troubled or disappointed - the site should continue to run just fine. Does anyone know if your albums/pictures can be downloaded other than individually? Yes. Next to the album is a pull down menu. Select Add to cart. The software will let you add all the photos in that album to your cart. You can then download the photos as a ZIP file. The software will not download all the sub-albums, you have to click on them individually and add to cart. I've registered on the site but I can't find a link to create a new build. Many thanks Alan Oops sorry Alan, I turned off letting users build albums on the main menu after we had some inappropriate postings. Ive set up an album for you on page 4. User name AlanHunter You should be able to Upload and make sub-albums there. 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