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1. 02:44 AM - Re: NG Tailplanes & Anti-Servo Trim Tabs (jonathanmilbank)
2. 03:30 AM - Re: Sun N Fun 2015 (rampil)
3. 03:39 AM - Re: Sun N Fun 2015 (rampil)
4. 04:12 AM - Re: Sight Gauge problem (GBWFH2010)
5. 08:40 AM - Mono tire replacement (Jerry Rehn)
6. 09:15 AM - Mr. Funnel (Erich Trombley)
7. 10:00 AM - Re: Fitting new tail plane torque tube (flyingphil2)
8. 10:39 AM - Re: NG Tailplanes & Anti-Servo Trim Tabs (Kelvin Weston)
9. 11:34 AM - Re: Mono tire replacement (Kevin Klinefelter)
10. 11:53 AM - Re: NG Tailplanes & Anti-Servo Trim Tabs (Kelvin Weston)
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| Subject: | Re: NG Tailplanes & Anti-Servo Trim Tabs |
Even though your photographs clearly show the trim lines, if I were in your shoes
I would find a Europa which is already built and take some very careful measurements
and photographs for comparison before cutting anything.
When I built my Classic wings there were reference pen marks made by the factory
on the foam to help set an incidence (I think) angle accurately. This was 20
years ago, so I'm a little vague. However one essential pen mark was missing
and I needed advice to recreate that mark. Difficult when the factory template
wasn't available.
As the old build notes stated "Think thrice, measure twice, cut once".
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| Subject: | Re: Sun N Fun 2015 |
A daily gathering at Custom Flight Creation's booth
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| Subject: | Re: Sun N Fun 2015 |
A portion of the 2015 Europa Engineering Meeting. We filled two tables.
Bud had an extensive Agenda which touched on Staffing, parts availability, Modes,
used aircraft market. LSA market projections etc. I'll leave it to him
to fill in the details after the show
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Ira N224XS
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| Subject: | Re: Sight Gauge problem |
Fred and Jon,
Thanks for your advice and also clarifying the situation regarding the restrictor.
I was looking in the Classic manual and I did not notice it on the fuel system
drawing, although it is shown quite clearly. That being said I am sure I
have everything connected correctly. My Classic has the dual connectors at the
tank so the sight gauge tube is not connected by a T-piece.
I agree it is looking as if a blockage, or air bubble, in the system is the cause
of the problem. I will go over on Monday, have a really thorough inspection
and let you know how I get on.
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Gordon Grant
G-BWFH
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| Subject: | Mono tire replacement |
Any thoughts on mono tire replacement frequency/use/years? I have an Air Trac about
7 years old and tread still looks good. Is time an issue, how long? I know
on RVs "road type" they recommend changing every 5 years or so regardless of
miles due to tires degrading.
Thanks for your advice.
Regards
Jerry
Mono XS 914 Airmaster
15 years running
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Hi Fred, I keep a small Mr. Funnel in the plane for fueling while travel
ing cross-country, and a large in the hangar for routine filling at home
base. There is a noticeable difference in speed of filling between the
two, and I am sure the line guys would appreciate it if I used the larg
e, however, the small fits better in the plane. I don't recall their be
ing a medium at the time I purchased the small. ErichN28ET Classic Mono
914 From: "Fred Klein" <fklein@orcasonline.com>
I see that Mr. Funnel comes in 3 sizescan anyone say which size (small?,
medium?,
or large?) would service the XS model of Ms. Europa the best?or are we b
ack
to that old questionDoes size matter?(sometimes I despair in this world
of over-choice)thanks,Fred
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| Subject: | Re: Fitting new tail plane torque tube |
Many thanks Alan,
I'll go and see what I have.
You seem to be the 'NG' kit pioneer, breaking new ground, from what I can tell
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| Subject: | Re: NG Tailplanes & Anti-Servo Trim Tabs |
Hi Alan
Im not building the NG version but I will try and help with a few observations.
First, take a look in the NG build manual for the Anti Servo Trim Tab, figure 7.
You can see that the hinge is on the upper surface of both tailplane and tab
and also that the upper leading edge of the tab flange is only as wide as one
half of the hinge. In your photo it looks much wider than this and may need to
be trimmed. This will bring the tab closer to the rear closeout of the tailplane.
Second, take a look at the XS build manual, Chap 4, figure 12. This shows the whole
assembly upside down but shows that the bottom flange of the tailplane closeout
is trimmed back to allow the 30mm required movement.
I would avoid trimming the upper flange of the tailplane closeout ( the one the
hinge fits on) unless absolutely necessary this flange comes assembled on the
NG tailplane and may have already been trimmed by the factory to the right depth.
The important dimension to achieve is the clearance between the leading edge nose
of the tab and the tailplane closeout vertical web as shown in figure 12. If
you have a slight clearance when the tab has moved the 30mm you should be ok.
I think this might take a slowly, slowly, little bit at a time approach to get
right. You could make a cardboard template of the root and tip end of the tab
and try them against the tailplane to see if you can get the required dimensions
if you trim the tab flange to the width of the hinge (or just over).
As stated in the previous posting, I would measure 10 times and be absolutely sure
before trimming.
I will have a look at my tailplane and tab. It is foam of course but some dimensions
and photos might give you some ideas.
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Regards
Kelv Weston
Kit 497
kelv@kdweston.biz
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| Subject: | Re: Mono tire replacement |
Hi Jerry,
I replaced my air track after I saw significant degradation in the sidewall.
Kevin from Sun&fun
Sent from my iPhone
> On Apr 24, 2015, at 11:39 AM, Jerry Rehn <rehn@rockisland.com> wrote:
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> Any thoughts on mono tire replacement frequency/use/years? I have an Air Trac
about 7 years old and tread still looks good. Is time an issue, how long? I know
on RVs "road type" they recommend changing every 5 years or so regardless
of miles due to tires degrading.
> Thanks for your advice.
> Regards
> Jerry
> Mono XS 914 Airmaster
> 15 years running
>
> Sent from my iPad
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| Subject: | Re: NG Tailplanes & Anti-Servo Trim Tabs |
Hi Alan
Here is a photo of one of my tailplane / tab hinges.
The flange each hinge half attaches to is approx 20mm wide, just over the hinge
width.
With the trailing edge of the tailplane and trim tab aligned, the gap between the
leading edge nose of the tab and the vertical web of the tailplane closeout
is approx 10mm. Remember the movement here will be much smaller than the 30mm
measured at the trailing edge.
The bottom flange of the tailplane is progressively trimmed back to just clear
the tab at full movement. I think Bud has given some suggestions before on control
gaps. You have no filling to do so you can keep them a bit tighter.
Hope this helps.
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Regards
Kelv Weston
Kit 497
kelv@kdweston.biz
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