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1. 04:17 AM - Skyforce Tracker IIIC GPS card upgrades....... (Bob Harrison)
2. 07:26 AM - Re: FlyIn Wyk auf =?ISO-8859-1?Q?F=C3=B6hr?= - Germany 2015 (Roland)
3. 10:05 AM - =?utf-8?Q?Re:__Re:_FlyIn_Wyk_auf_F=C3=B6hr_-_Germany?= =?utf-8?Q?_2015? (david park)
4. 10:39 AM - Smell of petrol in the cocpit just after takeoff (JohnFrance)
5. 11:23 AM - Re: Smell of petrol in the cocpit just after takeoff (Brian Davies)
6. 12:08 PM - Grills on intakes (Paul & Vanessa Munford)
7. 12:18 PM - Re: Smell of petrol in the cocpit just after takeoff (dpy01)
8. 01:06 PM - Re: Grills on intakes (Bob Harrison)
9. 01:59 PM - Re: Smell of petrol in the cocpit just after takeoff (Timward)
10. 10:23 PM - XTreme EMS from MGL Avionics (=?iso-8859-2?Q?Stanislav_=A9vec?=)
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Subject: | Skyforce Tracker IIIC GPS card upgrades....... |
Hi! All,
I recently circulated a message about getting upgrades done around the 23rd
April to get the best return for the cost (Most of the upgrade material
would be maximised)since the responsibilities for the unit will be
transferred to Muirhead Avionics .
However it now transpires that the original Honeywell Boxgrove facility are
retaining the NAVDATA mapping and software updates for all products and
manufacture.
BUT Muirhead Avionics WILL handle all hardware repair and overhaul.
Honeywell Phone No is :- +44(0) 1243 783763.
Muirhead phone No is :- +44(0) 208571 3422.
Sorry for any confusion I may have caused.
Regards
Bob Harrison Europa G-PTAG
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Subject: | Re: FlyIn Wyk auf =?ISO-8859-1?Q?F=C3=B6hr?= - Germany 2015 |
I think there is no Mogas available at Wyk and as the Rotax doesn't like lead,
I'll refuel at Heide-Bsum
http://www.eddh.de/info/landeinfo-ergebnisb.php?ueicao=EDXB
http://edxb.work.de/index.php?article_id
which is some 35 NM south of Wyk.
Just for information.
Regards
Roland
PH-ZTI
XS Trigear 914
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Subject: | Re: f-8?Q?Re:_Europa-List:_Re:_FlyIn_Wyk_auf_F=C3=B6hr_-_Germany?= =?utf-8?Q?_2015? |
Thanks for the info.
Dave Park G-LDVO
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> On 11 May 2015, at 15:25, Roland <schmidtroland@web.de> wrote:
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> http://www.eddh.de/info/landeinfo-ergebnisb.php?ueicao=EDXB
> http://edxb.work.de/index.php?article_id
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> Roland
> PH-ZTI
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Subject: | Smell of petrol in the cocpit just after takeoff |
Hi All,
During a flight yesterday I had a fairly strong smell of petrol in the cabin just
after take off and while in the climb, it lasted about 2 minutes.
I recently removed the drip trays from under the carbs on the advice of several
people. Their view was, it's better to have a few drips catching fire than a
bigger volume that has been heated up.
One of the trays did have a horizontal ring around the inside like a tide mark.
The float chambers of both carbs were cleaned and inspected as well as floats and
pins for wear. The floats are not part of the various duffer series so I must
admit I didn't weigh them. Perhaps I should have!
Upon reassembly I pressurized the system and was particularly attentive to the
starboard one that had the "tide mark" inside the tray.
I don't have any proof of the origin of the smell but I made the link to a recent
change that I have carried out.
If anyone has any ideas how I might trace the problem or curative measures I would
like to know?
Best regards
John
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Subject: | Smell of petrol in the cocpit just after takeoff |
Hi John,
I have had almost the same problem on my aircraft (Trigear 912ULS). My
fuel smell seems at its worst soon after take off and at initial throttIe-
back at about 1000 ft. I thought I had narrowed it down to one of the carbs
flooding after take off and changed the float needles to the latest type and
the problem seemed to go away. Rotax have tried three different spring
strengths for the float needles so there must be a problem they were trying
to fix. The problem came back a few weeks ago so I am also interested in
other reports of this problem.
Regards
Brian Davies.
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[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of JohnFrance
Sent: 11 May 2015 18:38
Subject: Europa-List: Smell of petrol in the cocpit just after takeoff
Hi All,
During a flight yesterday I had a fairly strong smell of petrol in the cabin
just after take off and while in the climb, it lasted about 2 minutes.
I recently removed the drip trays from under the carbs on the advice of
several people. Their view was, it's better to have a few drips catching
fire than a bigger volume that has been heated up.
One of the trays did have a horizontal ring around the inside like a tide
mark.
The float chambers of both carbs were cleaned and inspected as well as
floats and pins for wear. The floats are not part of the various duffer
series so I must admit I didn't weigh them. Perhaps I should have!
Upon reassembly I pressurized the system and was particularly attentive to
the starboard one that had the "tide mark" inside the tray.
I don't have any proof of the origin of the smell but I made the link to a
recent change that I have carried out.
If anyone has any ideas how I might trace the problem or curative measures I
would like to know?
Best regards
John
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Subject: | Grills on intakes |
Hi all, Just doing the cowlings,- any thoughts please on fitting the
intakes with grills to prevent F.O.D or would this impair cooling ??
Thanx in advance for any ideas. Paul Munford kit 625 tri, 912ULS
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Subject: | Re: Smell of petrol in the cocpit just after takeoff |
If you have recently dropped the fuel bowel check the gasket has seated correctly
when you have reassembled.
Are the floats, floating correct. See the service bulletin on sinking floats.
There is a tool for checking that the float operated valve actually has the correct
pressure applied when the bowls are full and the floats are floating
Also the new mech pump is higher pressure and can overcome floats if not applying
the right pressure on the fuel shutoff valve.
Alan
iRMT
G-OBJT
Sent from my iPhone
> On 11 May 2015, at 19:22, Brian Davies <brian.davies@clara.co.uk> wrote:
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> Hi John,
>
> I have had almost the same problem on my aircraft (Trigear 912ULS). My
> fuel smell seems at its worst soon after take off and at initial throttIe-
> back at about 1000 ft. I thought I had narrowed it down to one of the carbs
> flooding after take off and changed the float needles to the latest type and
> the problem seemed to go away. Rotax have tried three different spring
> strengths for the float needles so there must be a problem they were trying
> to fix. The problem came back a few weeks ago so I am also interested in
> other reports of this problem.
>
> Regards
>
> Brian Davies.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of JohnFrance
> Sent: 11 May 2015 18:38
> To: europa-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Europa-List: Smell of petrol in the cocpit just after takeoff
>
>
> Hi All,
> During a flight yesterday I had a fairly strong smell of petrol in the cabin
> just after take off and while in the climb, it lasted about 2 minutes.
>
> I recently removed the drip trays from under the carbs on the advice of
> several people. Their view was, it's better to have a few drips catching
> fire than a bigger volume that has been heated up.
>
> One of the trays did have a horizontal ring around the inside like a tide
> mark.
> The float chambers of both carbs were cleaned and inspected as well as
> floats and pins for wear. The floats are not part of the various duffer
> series so I must admit I didn't weigh them. Perhaps I should have!
> Upon reassembly I pressurized the system and was particularly attentive to
> the starboard one that had the "tide mark" inside the tray.
>
> I don't have any proof of the origin of the smell but I made the link to a
> recent change that I have carried out.
>
> If anyone has any ideas how I might trace the problem or curative measures I
> would like to know?
> Best regards
> John
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Subject: | Grills on intakes |
Hi! Paul and Vanessa,
Now why the dickens would you need grills on the intakes when anything
likely to enter would have been shredded by the prop first?
Sorry to answer your question with another question ?
Regards
Bob Harrison G-PTAG 914 though !
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Paul & Vanessa
Munford
Sent: 11 May 2015 20:08
Subject: Europa-List: Grills on intakes
Hi all, Just doing the cowlings,- any thoughts please on fitting the intakes
with grills to prevent F.O.D or would this impair cooling ?? Thanx in
advance for any ideas. Paul Munford kit 625 tri, 912ULS
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Subject: | Re: Smell of petrol in the cocpit just after takeoff |
Hi all,
You may well find it nothing to do with the engine.
Look at the inlet fuel cobra pipe connection to the fuel cap, the rubber pipe from
the cobra to the tank, and the connection between the rubber pipe and fuel
tank. Also the condition of the rubber pipe.
All have the potential to give off smells and on take off, with a full tank, the
higher pitch attitude can do this.
Kind regards,
Tim
Tim Ward
12 Waiwetu Street
Fendalton,
Christchurch, 8052
New Zealand.
ward.t@xtra.co.nz
Ph 64 3 3515166
Mob 0210640221
> On 12/05/2015, at 7:17 am, dpy01 <alanb@dpy01.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
> If you have recently dropped the fuel bowel check the gasket has seated correctly
when you have reassembled.
>
> Are the floats, floating correct. See the service bulletin on sinking floats.
>
> There is a tool for checking that the float operated valve actually has the correct
pressure applied when the bowls are full and the floats are floating
>
> Also the new mech pump is higher pressure and can overcome floats if not applying
the right pressure on the fuel shutoff valve.
>
> Alan
> iRMT
> G-OBJT
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On 11 May 2015, at 19:22, Brian Davies <brian.davies@clara.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Hi John,
>>
>> I have had almost the same problem on my aircraft (Trigear 912ULS). My
>> fuel smell seems at its worst soon after take off and at initial throttIe-
>> back at about 1000 ft. I thought I had narrowed it down to one of the carbs
>> flooding after take off and changed the float needles to the latest type and
>> the problem seemed to go away. Rotax have tried three different spring
>> strengths for the float needles so there must be a problem they were trying
>> to fix. The problem came back a few weeks ago so I am also interested in
>> other reports of this problem.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Brian Davies.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of JohnFrance
>> Sent: 11 May 2015 18:38
>> To: europa-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: Europa-List: Smell of petrol in the cocpit just after takeoff
>>
>>
>> Hi All,
>> During a flight yesterday I had a fairly strong smell of petrol in the cabin
>> just after take off and while in the climb, it lasted about 2 minutes.
>>
>> I recently removed the drip trays from under the carbs on the advice of
>> several people. Their view was, it's better to have a few drips catching
>> fire than a bigger volume that has been heated up.
>>
>> One of the trays did have a horizontal ring around the inside like a tide
>> mark.
>> The float chambers of both carbs were cleaned and inspected as well as
>> floats and pins for wear. The floats are not part of the various duffer
>> series so I must admit I didn't weigh them. Perhaps I should have!
>> Upon reassembly I pressurized the system and was particularly attentive to
>> the starboard one that had the "tide mark" inside the tray.
>>
>> I don't have any proof of the origin of the smell but I made the link to a
>> recent change that I have carried out.
>>
>> If anyone has any ideas how I might trace the problem or curative measures I
>> would like to know?
>> Best regards
>> John
>>
>> --------
>> Europa mono Nr 192
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=442016#442016
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Subject: | XTreme EMS from MGL Avionics |
Hi all,
I would like to install the XTreme EMS from MGL Avionics for engine
monitoring my Rotax 914 UL.
But at the same time I am very afraid to do it.
My friend, flyer and very good technician, had in his aircraft the Odyssey
EFIS from this company.
And he made a bitter experience. After 6 months never ending technical
problems he gave up this device and bought the Dynon EFIS. And now, fully
satisfied.
His advice is - MGL products never more !
My goal is, to buy, to install and to fly. I have no time, no mental and
economical power to solve bad device design etc. . .
But perhaps the situation by MGL is changing and perhaps the XTreme EMS is
different from Odyssey, perhaps this device is trouble free.
Please, is somebody here flying this engine monitor?
Experiences and recommendations?
Thanks very much for responses.
Regards
Stanislav
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