---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 05/14/15: 3 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:22 PM - Re: Smell of petrol in the cocpit just after takeoff (Richard Collings) 2. 12:38 PM - FWF Seal (spcialeffects) 3. 01:14 PM - Re: FWF Seal (Alan Burrill) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:22:10 PM PST US From: "Richard Collings" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Smell of petrol in the cocpit just after takeoff Hi Gilles & Brian Watching your email thread I would like to add my 2 pennies, I was aware that there was a problem with exhaust gasses entering the cabin through the flap slots on each side of the fuselage so I made a bulk head from the rear of the baggage bay floor to the floor of the aircraft [in 2 pieces] I am going to seal them air tight with foam rubber so that under the baggage bay is air tight to the cabin. I have had only one problem associated with engine smells from the start and that is a smell of fuel when I switch on the electric fuel pump. Fuel pressure remain the same with fuel pump no or off. No leaks found so far its very strange. Regards Richard G-CGZV Tri-gear 912ul 115hrs -----Original Message----- From: Brian Davies Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2015 10:46 AM Subject: RE: Europa-List: Smell of petrol in the cocpit just after takeoff Hi Gilles, I think leather bellows is probably the way to go. I have been chasing higher than normal CO levels on my aircraft, hence the research into airflows from the engine compartment. I have been looking at bellows around the pitch tube behind the baggage bay to close off the airflow through the flap slots and forward through the tunnel. I am ,however, struggling to understand why I should have a problem on my aircraft when others are not reporting problems. The trouble with measuring CO with a digital sensor is that once you know the reading you feel you should do something about it, even if it is within limits. I am getting 11 - 20 ppm in cruise and up to 35ppm on approach with the flaps down, with a normal limit of 50ppm for GA aircraft but zero would be better! Regards Brian -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of GTH Sent: 12 May 2015 23:31 Subject: Re: Europa-List: Smell of petrol in the cocpit just after takeoff Brian, Thank you for the information. > I know it is good aero practice to have a gas tight FWL but on the > Europa, with rudder cables passing through it, it is actually impossible to achieve. I would have thought that it could be easily addressed with leather bellows, like on vintage aircraft. > Also the external airflow from the engine area can attach to the lower > fuselage and enter the flap slots. This one beats me, but when there is a will there is a way... Best regards, Gilles http://contrails.free.fr ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 12:38:27 PM PST US Subject: Europa-List: FWF Seal From: "spcialeffects" Hi all. Could someone please tell me what this sealing material is called and possibly where i might buy some, Many thanks http://www.europaowners.org/main.php?g2_itemId=79612 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=442108#442108 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 01:14:12 PM PST US From: Alan Burrill Subject: Re: Europa-List: FWF Seal Looks like; Silicone Baffle Seal here: http://www.lasaero.com/site/products/article?id=T01VKIAZ1 alan On 14 May 2015, at 20:37, spcialeffects wrote: > > Hi all. Could someone please tell me what this sealing material is called and possibly where i might buy some, Many thanks > http://www.europaowners.org/main.php?g2_itemId=79612 > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=442108#442108 > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message europa-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Europa-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/europa-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/europa-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.