Europa-List Digest Archive

Sun 05/24/15


Total Messages Posted: 8



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 07:23 AM - Balance weights (Phil B)
     2. 08:08 AM - Re: Balance weights (Peter Jeffers)
     3. 08:17 AM - Re: Balance weights (Steve Hagar)
     4. 11:22 AM - Re: Balance weights (davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk)
     5. 12:13 PM - Re: Balance weights (Robert Borger)
     6. 01:09 PM - Re: McMinnville, OR, USA Europa Fly In June 12-14 (h&jeuropa)
     7. 01:51 PM - Re: Re: McMinnville, OR, USA Europa Fly In June 12-14 (Fred Klein)
     8. 02:50 PM - Re: Balance weights (davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk)
 
 
 


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    Time: 07:23:42 AM PST US
    Subject: Balance weights
    From: "Phil B" <daveporthcawl@aol.com>
    About to get my mono wheel weighed and balanced. 2 questions - where is the best place to fix the weights. I thought of fixing some flat sheets of lead to the stern post but wondered if it's strong enough or may be each side of the tail wheel spring. While I appreciate that each build is different can anyone give me a range of ballast weights I will expect to need. At this stage I don't know whether to cater for 3lbs or 30lbs of ballast. Thanks in advance. Phil B Kit no. 032 Mono wheel Classic with XS fwf. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=442528#442528


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    Time: 08:08:47 AM PST US
    From: "Peter Jeffers" <pjeffers@talktalk.net>
    Subject: Balance weights
    Hi Phil, Very few Europas need any ballast weight at all. Do you ask the question for a particular reason? If, and only if, you require ballast it will only be in the order of 1 to 5 lbs. If you need more than that then something is wrong with your build. Once more, if you require weight, it is normally fitted to the bolt that secures your tail wheel extension spring (XTW 06) at the rear of the fuselage. Regards Pete -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Phil B Sent: 24 May 2015 15:23 Subject: Europa-List: Balance weights About to get my mono wheel weighed and balanced. 2 questions - where is the best place to fix the weights. I thought of fixing some flat sheets of lead to the stern post but wondered if it's strong enough or may be each side of the tail wheel spring. While I appreciate that each build is different can anyone give me a range of ballast weights I will expect to need. At this stage I don't know whether to cater for 3lbs or 30lbs of ballast. Thanks in advance. Phil B Kit no. 032 Mono wheel Classic with XS fwf. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=442528#442528 ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com


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    Time: 08:17:37 AM PST US
    From: Steve Hagar <hagargs@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Re: Balance weights
    One point you want to think of is that you don't want to be carrying around useless weight. The preferred method is to move things around that you need to carry. The typical method is to move the battery forward or aft. Steve Hagar Mesa, AZ -----Original Message----- >From: Phil B <daveporthcawl@aol.com> >Sent: May 24, 2015 7:22 AM >To: europa-list@matronics.com >Subject: Europa-List: Balance weights > > >About to get my mono wheel weighed and balanced. 2 questions - where is the best place to fix the weights. I thought of fixing some flat sheets of lead to the stern post but wondered if it's strong enough or may be each side of the tail wheel spring. >While I appreciate that each build is different can anyone give me a range of ballast weights I will expect to need. At this stage I don't know whether to cater for 3lbs or 30lbs of ballast. > >Thanks in advance. >Phil B >Kit no. 032 >Mono wheel Classic with XS fwf. > > >Read this topic online here: > >http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=442528#442528 > >


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    Time: 11:22:24 AM PST US
    From: davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk
    Subject: Re: Balance weights
    Phil, My inspector and the LAA were entirely happy to have a lead block bolted on to the front of my sternpost - 3 lbs in my instance but they would have accepted more. Have you worked out what the ideal position of your C of G is? - that is one where you can accommodate any sensible combination of crew/fuel/luggage without needing to do calculations? Regards, David Joyce, GXSDJ On 2015-05-24 15:22, Phil B wrote: > > About to get my mono wheel weighed and balanced. 2 questions - where is the best place to fix the weights. I thought of fixing some flat sheets of lead to the stern post but wondered if it's strong enough or may be each side of the tail wheel spring. > While I appreciate that each build is different can anyone give me a range of ballast weights I will expect to need. At this stage I don't know whether to cater for 3lbs or 30lbs of ballast. > > Thanks in advance. > Phil B > Kit no. 032 > Mono wheel Classic with XS fwf. > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=442528#442528 [1] > Links: ------ [1] http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=442528#442528 [2] http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List [3] http://forums.matronics.com [4] http://www.matronics.com/contribution


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    Time: 12:13:58 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Balance weights
    From: Robert Borger <rlborger@mac.com>
    Phil, I agree with Peter Jeffers. Really shouldnt require aft ballast unless you have an unusually heavy engine. Try moving the battery first as you dont want to haul around dead weight unless absolutely necessary. Blue skies & tailwinds, Bob Borger Europa XS Tri, Rotax 914, Airmaster C/S Prop (85 hrs). Little Toot Sport Biplane, Lycoming Thunderbolt AEIO-320 EXP 3705 Lynchburg Dr. Corinth, TX 76208-5331 Cel: 817-992-1117 rlborger@mac.com On May 24, 2015, at 9:22 AM, Phil B <daveporthcawl@aol.com> wrote: About to get my mono wheel weighed and balanced. 2 questions - where is the best place to fix the weights. I thought of fixing some flat sheets of lead to the stern post but wondered if it's strong enough or may be each side of the tail wheel spring. While I appreciate that each build is different can anyone give me a range of ballast weights I will expect to need. At this stage I don't know whether to cater for 3lbs or 30lbs of ballast. Thanks in advance. Phil B Kit no. 032 Mono wheel Classic with XS fwf. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=442528#442528


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    Time: 01:09:49 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: McMinnville, OR, USA Europa Fly In June 12-14
    From: "h&amp;jeuropa" <butcher43@att.net>
    We mailed about 100 postcards announcing the fly in to owners on the West Coast on Wednesday 5/20, so they should be arriving shortly. At this point, we have 8 people and 5 planes planning to attend. Hopefully more later this week, we'll keep updating this thread as we get more information. Jim & Heather N241BW Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=442539#442539


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    Time: 01:51:51 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: McMinnville, OR, USA Europa Fly In June 12-14
    From: Fred Klein <fklein@orcasonline.com>
    nice work Jim & Heatherthanks for taking this initiativeF. > On May 24, 2015, at 1:09 PM, h&amp;jeuropa <butcher43@att.net> wrote: > > > We mailed about 100 postcards announcing the fly in to owners on the West Coast on Wednesday 5/20, so they should be arriving shortly. At this point, we have 8 people and 5 planes planning to attend. Hopefully more later this week, we'll keep updating this thread as we get more information. > > Jim & Heather > N241BW > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=442539#442539 > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 02:50:18 PM PST US
    From: davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk
    Subject: Re: Balance weights
    Steve, There is the point that a forward battery saves a fair bit of weight and gives limited resistance = better starting, very easy fixing & easier access. I suspect that I saved the 3 lbs that I attached to my stern post, in shorter heavy duty cable length and not having to construct a rear battery box, so I may well have broken even on the weight calculation. Regards, David Joyce, GXSDJ On 2015-05-24 16:16, Steve Hagar wrote: > > One point you want to think of is that you don't want to be carrying around useless weight. The preferred method is to move things around that you need to carry. The typical method is to move the battery forward or aft. > > Steve Hagar > Mesa, AZ > > -----Original Message----- > > Links: ------ [1] http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=442528#442528 [2] http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List [3] http://forums.matronics.com [4] http://www.matronics.com/contribution




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