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1. 07:14 AM - Re: Fly In Jet Age Museum Gloucester Sat 18 July (bcfogg@onetel.com)
2. 11:54 AM - Charging System (Alan Carter)
3. 12:43 PM - Re: Charging System (Bob Harrison)
4. 01:10 PM - Re: Charging System (Alan Carter)
5. 01:45 PM - Re: Charging System (Bryan Nortje)
6. 02:38 PM - Re: Fly In Jet Age Museum Gloucester Sat 18 July (John Wighton)
7. 02:47 PM - Trailer for sale (John Wighton)
8. 03:06 PM - Re: Re: Fly In Jet Age Museum Gloucester Sat 18 July (davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk)
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Subject: | Re: Fly In Jet Age Museum Gloucester Sat 18 July |
David
Sorry,
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Hi All.
Had a job starting the engine away from base, Starter turned the engine over OK
but there did not seem any spare electricity for electronic ignition system,
jump leaded it from another battery and away it went.
The battery is a Odyssey 680 which give 680amps for 5 seconds dated 2008, installed
09 2009 so 5 or 6 years old.
However bought a new one, put a volt meter on the new one, 12.87v
tried it on the old one 12.95v ?????
Anyway the new one seemed to turn the engine over quicker and it started straight
away .
I know a cars Alternator output is 13.8v,engine running, but on the aircraft using
a volt meter on the battery, I was getting about 13.05v charging rate, switched
on all the electrics and it dropped down to 12.6v
Do I have a problem.????
Many thanks
Alan
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Hi! Alan,
I think you will find the old battery has a shorted out plate.
If you can test it running you will probably find a charge of about 14.5
volts.
My original Oddessey batteries were on about 10 years before I got scared
of expecting them to last longer but I had two wired in parallel to start
the Jabiru 6 cylinder. One had gone down and it soon pulled the other one
down.
I have just had a repeat event and the one I took off won't even start the
lawn mower on it's own immediately after a slow charge. But the remaining
15 year old battery still fires up the lawn mower on it's own.
I's not the volts that starts the engine it is the ability to release a high
amperage over a short time.
Regards
Bob Harrison. G-PTAG
PS I got my replacement from Demon Tweeks.
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Subject: Europa-List: Charging System
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Hi All.
Had a job starting the engine away from base, Starter turned the engine over
OK but there did not seem any spare electricity for electronic ignition
system, jump leaded it from another battery and away it went.
The battery is a Odyssey 680 which give 680amps for 5 seconds dated 2008,
installed 09 2009 so 5 or 6 years old.
However bought a new one, put a volt meter on the new one, 12.87v tried it
on the old one 12.95v ?????
Anyway the new one seemed to turn the engine over quicker and it started
straight away .
I know a cars Alternator output is 13.8v,engine running, but on the aircraft
using a volt meter on the battery, I was getting about 13.05v charging rate,
switched on all the electrics and it dropped down to 12.6v
Do I have a problem.????
Many thanks
Alan
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Subject: | Re: Charging System |
Hi Bob.
My charge rate on the Europa with all avionic on is only 12.6v
Was wondering about the rectifier or Alternator as I have never seen my panel volt
meter above about 12.9v
I got the battery from , batterymegastore, ordered it Monday at 1545 arrived Tuesday
morning at 1000 great service.
83.50 including delivery.
Alan
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Subject: | Re: Charging System |
Hi Alan
>From what you have said on your tests, you mentioned that the voltage across the
battery with engine running is 13.05 V. That is not right and it should be
upwards of over 14V. Is your regulator wired in with a warning light or buzzer
to let you know when the voltage is low? Your regulator could be faulty so check
all its connections and ensure that it is well earthed too. Your battery is
probably ok but with regulator issues, has slowly been getting to the point
where you asking it to work harder and its age will probably make it give up the
ghost easier than a fresh new one.
There were a couple second hand regulators up for sale at the Europa AGM last saturday
so perhaps you could get one for a good price and swop it out.
Cheers
Bryan
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> On 16 Jul 2015, at 19:53, Alan Carter <alancarteresq@onetel.net> wrote:
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> Hi All.
> Had a job starting the engine away from base, Starter turned the engine over
OK but there did not seem any spare electricity for electronic ignition system,
jump leaded it from another battery and away it went.
> The battery is a Odyssey 680 which give 680amps for 5 seconds dated 2008, installed
09 2009 so 5 or 6 years old.
> However bought a new one, put a volt meter on the new one, 12.87v
> tried it on the old one 12.95v ?????
> Anyway the new one seemed to turn the engine over quicker and it started straight
away .
> I know a cars Alternator output is 13.8v,engine running, but on the aircraft
using a volt meter on the battery, I was getting about 13.05v charging rate, switched
on all the electrics and it dropped down to 12.6v
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> Do I have a problem.????
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> Many thanks
> Alan
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> Read this topic online here:
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Subject: | Re: Fly In Jet Age Museum Gloucester Sat 18 July |
David,
Can you please put G-IPOD down with 2 POB for Sat please. many thanks
John Wighton
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John Wighton
Europa XS trigear G-IPOD
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Subject: | Trailer for sale |
This is a flatbed trailer with a manual winch. Used to transport my Europa to
paintshop and then to airfield. It will require additional stands and fixtures
to be used regularly but may suit a builder who needs some means to transport
his/her plane.
Located Essex but could be taken to site for cost of fuel (calculated at 20mpg).
Standard 2" towing hook, braked but rod needs to be replaced.
Electrics in good working order.
Asking 650, with spare wheel. Would suit dismantled, RV, Cub, Fox, etc etc.
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John Wighton
Europa XS trigear G-IPOD
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Subject: | Re: Fly In Jet Age Museum Gloucester Sat 18 July |
John, that's cutting deadlines pretty fine but OK. Will look forward to
seeing you Sat Am away from PC at present but will send on a briefing
sheet tomorrow. Regards, David
On 2015-07-16 22:37, John Wighton wrote:
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> David,
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> Can you please put G-IPOD down with 2 POB for Sat please. many thanks
> John Wighton
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