---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 07/16/15: 8 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 07:14 AM - Re: Fly In Jet Age Museum Gloucester Sat 18 July (bcfogg@onetel.com) 2. 11:54 AM - Charging System (Alan Carter) 3. 12:43 PM - Re: Charging System (Bob Harrison) 4. 01:10 PM - Re: Charging System (Alan Carter) 5. 01:45 PM - Re: Charging System (Bryan Nortje) 6. 02:38 PM - Re: Fly In Jet Age Museum Gloucester Sat 18 July (John Wighton) 7. 02:47 PM - Trailer for sale (John Wighton) 8. 03:06 PM - Re: Re: Fly In Jet Age Museum Gloucester Sat 18 July (davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 07:14:45 AM PST US From: bcfogg@onetel.com Subject: Re: Europa-List: Fly In Jet Age Museum Gloucester Sat 18 July David Sorry, ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 11:54:57 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Charging System From: "Alan Carter" Hi All. Had a job starting the engine away from base, Starter turned the engine over OK but there did not seem any spare electricity for electronic ignition system, jump leaded it from another battery and away it went. The battery is a Odyssey 680 which give 680amps for 5 seconds dated 2008, installed 09 2009 so 5 or 6 years old. However bought a new one, put a volt meter on the new one, 12.87v tried it on the old one 12.95v ????? Anyway the new one seemed to turn the engine over quicker and it started straight away . I know a cars Alternator output is 13.8v,engine running, but on the aircraft using a volt meter on the battery, I was getting about 13.05v charging rate, switched on all the electrics and it dropped down to 12.6v Do I have a problem.???? Many thanks Alan Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=444828#444828 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 12:43:09 PM PST US From: "Bob Harrison" Subject: RE: Europa-List: Charging System Hi! Alan, I think you will find the old battery has a shorted out plate. If you can test it running you will probably find a charge of about 14.5 volts. My original Oddessey batteries were on about 10 years before I got scared of expecting them to last longer but I had two wired in parallel to start the Jabiru 6 cylinder. One had gone down and it soon pulled the other one down. I have just had a repeat event and the one I took off won't even start the lawn mower on it's own immediately after a slow charge. But the remaining 15 year old battery still fires up the lawn mower on it's own. I's not the volts that starts the engine it is the ability to release a high amperage over a short time. Regards Bob Harrison. G-PTAG PS I got my replacement from Demon Tweeks. -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Alan Carter Sent: 16 July 2015 19:54 Subject: Europa-List: Charging System --> Hi All. Had a job starting the engine away from base, Starter turned the engine over OK but there did not seem any spare electricity for electronic ignition system, jump leaded it from another battery and away it went. The battery is a Odyssey 680 which give 680amps for 5 seconds dated 2008, installed 09 2009 so 5 or 6 years old. However bought a new one, put a volt meter on the new one, 12.87v tried it on the old one 12.95v ????? Anyway the new one seemed to turn the engine over quicker and it started straight away . I know a cars Alternator output is 13.8v,engine running, but on the aircraft using a volt meter on the battery, I was getting about 13.05v charging rate, switched on all the electrics and it dropped down to 12.6v Do I have a problem.???? Many thanks Alan Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=444828#444828 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 01:10:15 PM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: Charging System From: "Alan Carter" Hi Bob. My charge rate on the Europa with all avionic on is only 12.6v Was wondering about the rectifier or Alternator as I have never seen my panel volt meter above about 12.9v I got the battery from , batterymegastore, ordered it Monday at 1545 arrived Tuesday morning at 1000 great service. 83.50 including delivery. Alan Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=444833#444833 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 01:45:25 PM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: Charging System From: Bryan Nortje Hi Alan >From what you have said on your tests, you mentioned that the voltage across the battery with engine running is 13.05 V. That is not right and it should be upwards of over 14V. Is your regulator wired in with a warning light or buzzer to let you know when the voltage is low? Your regulator could be faulty so check all its connections and ensure that it is well earthed too. Your battery is probably ok but with regulator issues, has slowly been getting to the point where you asking it to work harder and its age will probably make it give up the ghost easier than a fresh new one. There were a couple second hand regulators up for sale at the Europa AGM last saturday so perhaps you could get one for a good price and swop it out. Cheers Bryan Sent from my iPad > On 16 Jul 2015, at 19:53, Alan Carter wrote: > > > Hi All. > Had a job starting the engine away from base, Starter turned the engine over OK but there did not seem any spare electricity for electronic ignition system, jump leaded it from another battery and away it went. > The battery is a Odyssey 680 which give 680amps for 5 seconds dated 2008, installed 09 2009 so 5 or 6 years old. > However bought a new one, put a volt meter on the new one, 12.87v > tried it on the old one 12.95v ????? > Anyway the new one seemed to turn the engine over quicker and it started straight away . > I know a cars Alternator output is 13.8v,engine running, but on the aircraft using a volt meter on the battery, I was getting about 13.05v charging rate, switched on all the electrics and it dropped down to 12.6v > > Do I have a problem.???? > > Many thanks > Alan > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=444828#444828 > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 02:38:31 PM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: Fly In Jet Age Museum Gloucester Sat 18 July From: "John Wighton" David, Can you please put G-IPOD down with 2 POB for Sat please. many thanks John Wighton -------- John Wighton Europa XS trigear G-IPOD Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=444836#444836 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 02:47:11 PM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Trailer for sale From: "John Wighton" This is a flatbed trailer with a manual winch. Used to transport my Europa to paintshop and then to airfield. It will require additional stands and fixtures to be used regularly but may suit a builder who needs some means to transport his/her plane. Located Essex but could be taken to site for cost of fuel (calculated at 20mpg). Standard 2" towing hook, braked but rod needs to be replaced. Electrics in good working order. Asking 650, with spare wheel. Would suit dismantled, RV, Cub, Fox, etc etc. -------- John Wighton Europa XS trigear G-IPOD Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=444837#444837 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/trailer001_162.jpg ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 03:06:21 PM PST US From: davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Fly In Jet Age Museum Gloucester Sat 18 July John, that's cutting deadlines pretty fine but OK. Will look forward to seeing you Sat Am away from PC at present but will send on a briefing sheet tomorrow. Regards, David On 2015-07-16 22:37, John Wighton wrote: > > David, > > Can you please put G-IPOD down with 2 POB for Sat please. many thanks > John Wighton > > -------- > John Wighton > Europa XS trigear G-IPOD > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=444836#444836 [1] > Links: ------ [1] http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=444836#444836 [2] http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List [3] http://forums.matronics.com [4] http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message europa-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Europa-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/europa-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/europa-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.