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1. 08:20 AM - mono fuselage stability on trailer (Fred Klein)
2. 08:57 AM - Re: mono fuselage stability on trailer (david park)
3. 02:13 PM - Re: mono fuselage stability on trailer (Peter Timm)
4. 02:43 PM - Re: mono fuselage stability on trailer (Timward)
5. 04:13 PM - Skyforce 111c GPS (Alan Carter)
6. 10:26 PM - mono fuselage stability on trailer (Fred Klein)
7. 11:48 PM - Re: Skyforce 111c GPS (Bryan Nortje)
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| Subject: | mono fuselage stability on trailer |
Gents,
Ive often had concerns about the stability of the mono wheel fuselage when it rides
along the road on its bespoke trailer...(couldnt resist the opportunity to
use this very British utterance).
When my mind imagines the moment arms and the mass, stabilized solely by the capturing
of the sides of the LG02 retraction arm within the sides of the tilt-up
ramp, I fear that the fuselage tipping over, contacting the wings or worse,
is just a heartbeat away.
I have similar concerns about the stability of the fuselage while on the trailer
during the attaching and removal of the wingsan operation Ive yet to attemptbut
the amount of the forces in play that Ive experienced when attaching the wings
when the fuselage sits on a cradle in the shop gives me pause.
Can I hear from those w/ actual experience as to whether or not my fears are unfounded?or
is the fuselage stabilized by some additional means by which I am unaware?
Fred
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| Subject: | Re: mono fuselage stability on trailer |
When mine was a Mono i used to put first wing on and support it while attaching
second wing.
Dave
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> On 30 Jul 2015, at 16:19, Fred Klein <fklein@orcasonline.com> wrote:
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> Gents,
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> Ive often had concerns about the stability of the mono wheel fuselage when it
rides along the road on its bespoke trailer...(couldnt resist the opportunity
to use this very British utterance).
>
> When my mind imagines the moment arms and the mass, stabilized solely by the
capturing of the sides of the LG02 retraction arm within the sides of the tilt-up
ramp, I fear that the fuselage tipping over, contacting the wings or worse,
is just a heartbeat away.
>
> I have similar concerns about the stability of the fuselage while on the trailer
during the attaching and removal of the wingsan operation Ive yet to attemptbut
the amount of the forces in play that Ive experienced when attaching the
wings when the fuselage sits on a cradle in the shop gives me pause.
>
> Can I hear from those w/ actual experience as to whether or not my fears are
unfounded?or is the fuselage stabilized by some additional means by which I am
unaware?
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> Fred
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| Subject: | Re: mono fuselage stability on trailer |
Fred,
I've made two hooks out of flat steel, with some padding glued to the inside of
them, that fit into the openings for the spars. They are then attached to the
trailer frame below with the usual ratchet set-up. For placing the aircraft on
the trailer both wings should remain attached for better balance. You will need
somebody to hold the wings level while you winch the aircraft onto the trailer
and adjust and attach the folding up ramp. This will hold the aircraft ,
while you support the left wing , raise the wing cradles etc.. , but , as you
have already determined, is not sufficient for road travel. After removing and
loading the wings it becomes a little more awkward to hook up the the fuselage
to the trailer frame, but it must be done. Since the fuselage is facing tail
forward, it helps to fabricate a padded pair of scissors to keep the rudder from
being exposed to some vicious side-loads . Do not put the elevators on the
trailer! I always carry them in the car.
Hope this helps.
Cheers , Peter
On 2015-07-30, at 8:19 AM, Fred Klein wrote:
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> Gents,
>
> Ive often had concerns about the stability of the mono wheel fuselage when it
rides along the road on its bespoke trailer...(couldnt resist the opportunity
to use this very British utterance).
>
> When my mind imagines the moment arms and the mass, stabilized solely by the
capturing of the sides of the LG02 retraction arm within the sides of the tilt-up
ramp, I fear that the fuselage tipping over, contacting the wings or worse,
is just a heartbeat away.
>
> I have similar concerns about the stability of the fuselage while on the trailer
during the attaching and removal of the wingsan operation Ive yet to attemptbut
the amount of the forces in play that Ive experienced when attaching the
wings when the fuselage sits on a cradle in the shop gives me pause.
>
> Can I hear from those w/ actual experience as to whether or not my fears are
unfounded?or is the fuselage stabilized by some additional means by which I am
unaware?
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> Fred
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| Subject: | Re: mono fuselage stability on trailer |
Hi Fred,
I have placed a rubber block, shaped to form where it contacts the fuselage and
glued to the inside of the wing holder arm that retracts for de rigging/rigging.
Once the fuselage is on the trailer, retract the wing holder arms either side and
the rubber blocks hold the fuselage upright.
At the tail of the aircraft I use bungee cords around the tailwheel arm and trailer
track to stop it jumping out of its track race which has happened once.
Otherwise it does travel well on the trailer. There are various other minor alterations
you have to do due to Mods on the the Spars but all doable.
Cheers.
Tim
Tim Ward
12 Waiwetu Street
Fendalton,
Christchurch, 8052
New Zealand.
ward.t@xtra.co.nz
Ph 64 3 3515166
Mob 0210640221
> On 30/07/2015, at 11:19 pm, Fred Klein <fklein@orcasonline.com> wrote:
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> Gents,
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> Ifve often had concerns about the stability of the mono wheel fuselage when it
rides along the road on its gbespokeh trailer...(couldnft resist the opportunity
to use this very British utterance).
>
> When my mind imagines the moment arms and the mass, stabilized solely by the
capturing of the sides of the LG02 retraction arm within the sides of the tilt-up
ramp, I fear that the fuselage tipping over, contacting the wings or worse,
is just a heartbeat away.
>
> I have similar concerns about the stability of the fuselage while on the trailer
during the attaching and removal of the wingscan operation Ifve yet to attemptcbut
the amount of the forces in play that Ifve experienced when attaching
the wings when the fuselage sits on a cradle in the shop gives me pause.
>
> Can I hear from those w/ actual experience as to whether or not my fears are
unfounded?cor is the fuselage stabilized by some additional means by which I am
unaware?
>
> Fred
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| Subject: | Skyforce 111c GPS |
Hi All
Anyone got a Skyforce 111c for sale.
Alan in UK
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=445437#445437
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| Subject: | mono fuselage stability on trailer |
Tim, Peter, and Davidthank you for confirming my sense that additional means to
stabilise the fuselage on the Europa mono trailer is necessary, as well as the
clear descriptions of how youve dealt with the issue.
Best,
Fred
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| Subject: | Re: Skyforce 111c GPS |
Hi Alan
I got an AVMAP EXP4 with mount bracket etc if that would do. Only I'm now sat on
a plane to USA for 2 weeks.
Cheers
Bryan
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> On 31 Jul 2015, at 00:12, Alan Carter <alancarteresq@onetel.net> wrote:
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> Anyone got a Skyforce 111c for sale.
> Alan in UK
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