---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 08/04/15: 12 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 03:46 AM - Re: Germany; places accessible from the UK (davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk) 2. 05:56 AM - Re: cht sensors (h&jeuropa) 3. 07:10 AM - Re: Germany; places accessible from the UK (Roland) 4. 09:04 AM - Brian Davies (Steven Pitt) 5. 11:00 AM - Re: Rudder gust locks (Rick Moss) 6. 12:23 PM - Re: Germany; places accessible from the UK (graeme bird) 7. 12:52 PM - Re: Germany; places accessible from the UK (Roland) 8. 01:25 PM - Re: Re: Germany; places accessible from the UK (davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk) 9. 01:40 PM - Re: Brian Davies (david park) 10. 01:42 PM - Re: Re: Germany; places accessible from the UK (David Watts) 11. 02:18 PM - governer control cable (Greg Fuchs) 12. 03:23 PM - Places to go in Germany........... (Bob Harrison) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 03:46:28 AM PST US From: davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk Subject: Re: Europa-List: Germany; places accessible from the UK Graeme, If you don't want to go too far into Germany Offenburg, EDTO is a pleasant inexpensive A/F with a pleasing small town fairly nearby. Just past the French border south of Belgium. Regards, David Joyce, GXSDJ On 2015-08-03 20:07, graeme bird wrote: > > Thanks for the recommendations for Holland, very enjoyable. Can anyone recommend a place to land and wander or cycle in Germany within easy ish reach of the UK? Preferably a town somewhere near. > > -------- > Graeme Bird > G-UMPY > Mono Classic/XS FFW 912S/Woodcomp 3000/3W > Newby: 180 hours 4 years on the Mono > g(at)gdbmk.co.uk > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=445548#445548 [1] > Links: ------ [1] http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=445548#445548 [2] http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List [3] http://forums.matronics.com [4] http://www.matronics.com/contribution ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:56:09 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: cht sensors From: "h&jeuropa" Bill, These do not seem to be available any longer. Perhaps someone will have a spare you can purchase. If not, there are other VDO sensors with the same internals but different threads. You could purchase one of those that is a larger diameter and machine the threads. Jim Butcher Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=445572#445572 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:10:35 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: Germany; places accessible from the UK From: "Roland" Essen-Mlheim EDLE is in easy reach from the UK. Plenty to see nearby and also towns like Essen, Dsseldorf, Cologne.... Airport is all day open from 06:00-22:00 LOC. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=445574#445574 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 09:04:06 AM PST US From: "Steven Pitt" Subject: Europa-List: Brian Davies Just noticed that my local strut (Andover based at Popham) will have a very important speaker on the 12th October, namely Brian Davies. I am sure he would be delighted to see a full house, especially of Europa owners. Steve ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 11:00:21 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: Rudder gust locks From: "Rick Moss" I must say that the pipe lagging technique seems eminently sensible, cheap and light (and I'm a plumber...).... Thanks all for the ideas. I may still create something different, but likely more for the fun of it than to improve on the above suggestions! Thanks again. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=445578#445578 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 12:23:04 PM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: Germany; places accessible from the UK From: "graeme bird" Thanks, for the responses, they both look interesting and possible, I had already plotted a route down to the Black Forest. I take it that in general its likely that I can get a routing through class C and D airspace? Am I right in assuming if I use Customs in France I don't need a customs airport in Germany? Do I still need a flight plan to cross between France and Germany. Just for reference, will Belgium let me overfly their country without express permission; they seemed ok about me tracking the coast over land to Holland? Regards Graeme -------- Graeme Bird G-UMPY Mono Classic/XS FFW 912S/Woodcomp 3000/3W Newby: 180 hours 4 years on the Mono g(at)gdbmk.co.uk Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=445580#445580 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 12:52:01 PM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: Germany; places accessible from the UK From: "Roland" On my flight from Laddingford to EDLE a few weeks ago, Lille Info coordinated FL 70 DCT BUN VOR (routing between Antwerp and Bruxelles). You can in any case use a corridor there, but maybe have to descend to 1500 ft in the Bruxelles area. If you make customs in France, you don't have to do that again in Germany, since it's all Schengen. AFAIK there's no FPL necessary between France and Germany, but I do not know exactly, since I file one anyway. You can also go DCT EDLE from the UK and vice versa. Regards Roland PH-ZTI XS Trigear 914 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=445582#445582 ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 01:25:23 PM PST US From: davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Germany; places accessible from the UK Graeme, once you have cleared customs in France or any Schengen country, you can land at any airfield in any other Schengen country without bothering about customs. Belgium is a problem. If you ask them they will tell you that you must have prior permission to fly in their airspace whether or not you land there. They will charge you 86 euros for the minute or so they take to check copies of yoUr standard documents. Many many pilots have flown along the coast to Holland without any problems, but that is simply because ATC folk do not see it as any of theirbusiness to check whether you are flying on a Permit and whether you have applied for and paid for relevant permission. If on the other hand you had some incident whilst flying there without permission, then I suspect they would throw the book at you and it might prove very expensive! The question of FPLs within Schengen is also complex. There is , I believe an EASA regulation saying that Schengen countries may choose to dispense with the need. At the recent fly out to EBLE, Belgium, we were assured that Belgium did not require a FPL from France. However ATC at Le Touquet would not let us take off without one. They said we are often having this problem with Belgium, and offered to show us the bit in the Fench AIP where it says no aircraft may fly out of France without a FPL. So my advice would be to always put in a FPL if you are crossing an international boundary It saves a lot of hassle! & once you have done a few it becomes pretty straightforward. Remember you do not need to put a very precise route in - the bare bones will do. Getting through class D and C airspace is mostly easy, but you have to realise that in many countries Class D is as bad as it gets, and whilst small airfields with a D zone will usually present no great problem, a really busy (Gatwick equivalent) airfield may also have just class D and naturally will be a whole lot less keen on letting small GA aircraft get in their hair! Regards, David Joyce, GXSDJ 2015-08-04 20:22, graeme bird wrote: > > Thanks, for the responses, they both look interesting and possible, I had already plotted a route down to the Black Forest. I take it that in general its likely that I can get a routing through class C and D airspace? > > Am I right in assuming if I use Customs in France I don't need a customs airport in Germany? > Do I still need a flight plan to cross between France and Germany. > > Just for reference, will Belgium let me overfly their country without express permission; they seemed ok about me tracking the coast over land to Holland? > > Regards Graeme > > -------- > Graeme Bird > G-UMPY > Mono Classic/XS FFW 912S/Woodcomp 3000/3W > Newby: 180 hours 4 years on the Mono > g(at)gdbmk.co.uk > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=445580#445580 [1] > Links: ------ [1] http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=445580#445580 [2] http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List [3] http://forums.matronics.com [4] http://www.matronics.com/contribution ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 01:40:42 PM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: Brian Davies From: david park Is it an evening event? Regards. Dave Park Sent from my iPhone > On 4 Aug 2015, at 17:02, Steven Pitt wrote: > > > Just noticed that my local strut (Andover based at Popham) will have a very important speaker on the 12th October, namely Brian Davies. I am sure he would be delighted to see a full house, especially of Europa owners. > Steve > > > > ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 01:42:07 PM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Germany; places accessible from the UK From: David Watts Graeme, Once you have cleared customs in a Shengen country, which is most of Europe except the UK and Switzerland I believe, then you are free to go on to other Shengen countries without involving customs. When you go from one country to another you should file a flight plan. To enter Belgian airspace you should have permission, which cost around 70 for 3 months I believe. Lots of people have taken a chance and not got permission (including me) but equally I have heard of others who have been caught and fined. Dave Watts G-BXDY > On 4 Aug 2015, at 21:22, graeme bird wrote: > > > Thanks, for the responses, they both look interesting and possible, I had already plotted a route down to the Black Forest. I take it that in general its likely that I can get a routing through class C and D airspace? > > Am I right in assuming if I use Customs in France I don't need a customs airport in Germany? > Do I still need a flight plan to cross between France and Germany. > > Just for reference, will Belgium let me overfly their country without express permission; they seemed ok about me tracking the coast over land to Holland? > > Regards Graeme > > -------- > Graeme Bird > G-UMPY > Mono Classic/XS FFW 912S/Woodcomp 3000/3W > Newby: 180 hours 4 years on the Mono > g(at)gdbmk.co.uk > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=445580#445580 > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 02:18:56 PM PST US From: "Greg Fuchs " Subject: Europa-List: governer control cable Europhiles, For those that have a hydraulic governor such as jihostroj, commonly used on 914 constant speed applications, what did you use for the control cable / where did you get it? I cannot seem to find any info on the normal 914 parts sites. Thanks, Greg F ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 03:23:20 PM PST US From: "Bob Harrison" Subject: Europa-List: Places to go in Germany........... Hi! Grahame/all I can recommend Speyer (EDRY) Excellent Technik Museum With a 747 0n a pedestal ! on the edge of the airfield. Even a U boat Sub. Excellent commercial accommodation on the Museum Grounds. Great town, easy walk with many pavement type Resteraunts and classical market place . All you need to know on Google . 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