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1. 01:28 AM - Re: Brian Davies (Steven Pitt)
2. 03:10 AM - Fly out Caernarfon Sat 8 Aug (davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk)
3. 04:23 AM - Re: Fly out Caernarfon Sat 8 Aug (Steven Pitt)
4. 06:54 AM - Re: Governor control cable (John Wigney)
5. 08:14 AM - Re: Governor control cable (Greg Fuchs)
6. 08:43 AM - Re: Fly out Caernarfon Sat 8 Aug (david park)
7. 09:32 AM - Help Needed (Idea Innovations)
8. 09:53 AM - Re: Fly out Caernarfon Sat 8 Aug (danny shepherd)
9. 11:15 AM - Re: Help Needed (jonathanmilbank)
10. 03:22 PM - Fw: partially completed Europa (Fred Klein)
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| Subject: | Re: Brian Davies |
Yes 7.30 usual starting time.
Steve
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From: "david park" <dpark748@icloud.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2015 9:40 PM
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Brian Davies
>
> Is it an evening event?
> Regards. Dave Park
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> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On 4 Aug 2015, at 17:02, Steven Pitt <steven.pitt2@ntlworld.com> wrote:
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>> <steven.pitt2@ntlworld.com>
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>> Just noticed that my local strut (Andover based at Popham) will have a
>> very important speaker on the 12th October, namely Brian Davies. I am
>> sure he would be delighted to see a full house, especially of Europa
>> owners.
>> Steve
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| Subject: | Fly out Caernarfon Sat 8 Aug |
Just a reminder that we have a joint Europa Club/Gloster Strut fly out
to Caernarfon this Saturday. The forecast is currently looking very
good, with a bit of high pressure, clear skies and modest winds.
Briefing sheet attached Regards, David Joyce, GXSDJ
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| Subject: | Re: Fly out Caernarfon Sat 8 Aug |
I would love to come but my aircraft is back in dock with a stall warner
problem again!!!
STeve
----- Original Message -----
From: davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk
To: europa list
Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2015 11:09 AM
Subject: Europa-List: Fly out Caernarfon Sat 8 Aug
Just a reminder that we have a joint Europa Club/Gloster Strut fly out
to Caernarfon this Saturday. The forecast is currently looking very
good, with a bit of high pressure, clear skies and modest winds.
Briefing sheet attached Regards, David Joyce, GXSDJ
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| Subject: | Re: Governor control cable |
Hi Greg,
I use an A-750 vernier control with a blue knob from Aircraft Spruce
<http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/appages/a750.php?clickkey=342039>
for the Jihostroj governor which controls my WhirlWind constant speed
prop. It has served perfectly since 2001. I do not remember the length
but if you need any pics of the setup, please let me know.
Cheers, John
N262WF, mono XS, 912S
Mooresville, North Carolina
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> From: "Greg Fuchs "<gregoryf.flyboy@comcast.net>
> Subject: Europa-List: governer control cable
> Europhiles,
> For those that have a hydraulic governor such as jihostroj, commonly used on
914 constant speed applications, what did you use for the control cable / where
did you get it? I cannot seem to find any info on the normal 914 parts sites.
> Thanks, Greg F
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| Subject: | RE: Governor control cable |
Hi John,
Yes, by all means send me some pics. My setup is for the whirlwind as well.
I especially want to know what kind of bracket you used to hold the cable
(near the governor) and how long the shaft is that connects up to the swivel
joint (I think I will have a tight turning radius). A few pics should answer
all my questions. I have a bracket for another common aircraft that is
supposed to work with the jihostroj, but it is not a good fit. It can be
modified however, but there appears to be a bracket built-in at the top of
the Rotax too that just might work, but I have not found any info on it
yet..it is in the approximate correct position to potentially hold the
cable.
I would also like a pic of where you placed the knob, and where the cabling
went through the firewall as well. The cabling might be stiff and I am not
sure I can get it to exit the top of the engine cage, similar to the
throttle and choke cables.
My intention is to use a lever, and not a vernier, but it is all similar,
except for the end. Vernier is the contingency plan if the lever doesn't
work well.
Thanks much in advance!
Greg Fuchs A050
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From: John Wigney [mailto:johnwigney@windstream.net]
Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2015 6:53 AM
Subject: Re: Governor control cable
Hi Greg,
I use an A-750
<http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/appages/a750.php?clickkey=342039>
vernier control with a blue knob from Aircraft Spruce for the Jihostroj
governor which controls my WhirlWind constant speed prop. It has served
perfectly since 2001. I do not remember the length but if you need any pics
of the setup, please let me know.
Cheers, John
N262WF, mono XS, 912S
Mooresville, North Carolina
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From: "Greg Fuchs " <mailto:gregoryf.flyboy@comcast.net>
<gregoryf.flyboy@comcast.net>
Subject: Europa-List: governer control cable
Europhiles,
For those that have a hydraulic governor such as jihostroj, commonly used on
914 constant speed applications, what did you use for the control cable /
where did you get it? I cannot seem to find any info on the normal 914 parts
sites.
Thanks, Greg F
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| Subject: | Re: Fly out Caernarfon Sat 8 Aug |
G-LDVO attending.
Dave
Sent from my iPad
> On 5 Aug 2015, at 11:09, davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk wrote:
>
> Just a reminder that we have a joint Europa Club/Gloster Strut fly out to C
aernarfon this Saturday. The forecast is currently looking very good, with a
bit of high pressure, clear skies and modest winds. Briefing sheet attached
Regards, David Joyce, GXSDJ
>
>
>
>
> <Caernarfon 2015.doc>
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Good Morning Everyone on the Europa List
The Camden Youth Aviation Program has recently acquired a partially completed mono-wheel Europa kit which it will be building with with the middle and high school students of LEAP Academy (http://www.leapacademycharter.org/).Once built it is our hope that the young people who helped to build the aircraft would be able to take flight lessons in the aircraft.
We are looking for volunteers in the Camden, NJ, Greater Philadelphia and Wilmington,
DE areas who have experience building the Europa to help lead this project
and to work with our young people. We are also hoping that builders who have
completed their aircraft would consider donating their no longer needed tools
to us.
The Camden Youth Aviation Program tries to show the young people of Camden and Southern NJ all aspects of aviation and that there is more to life than what they see in their neighborhoods. Also by introducing them to aviation, we are hoping to give them something to dream about and to inspire them to rise above the limits of their environment. The program is open to all Camden and Southern NJ youth who are interested in aviation. Participation in the Camden Youth Aviation Program is not limited to any one group or organization, but welcomes all young people who are interested in aviation. Additionally, the Camden Youth Aviation Program tries to act as a resource to schools and youth groups to make them aware of the educational aviation resources that are available to them. The Camden Youth Aviation Program was established under the auspices of the former Camden Police Foundation and the Diocese of Camden's Community Relations Advisory Board. The Camden Youth Aviation Program is incorporated as a Non-Profit Corporation in the State of NJ and is a certified 501(c)3 non-profit charity. More information about the Camden Youth Aviation Program can be found on the Camden Youth Aviation Program Facebook page and on our website at www.Camdenyap.org.
Please contact me if you have any questions about the post or if you are willing
to help us in any fashion to give inner city and under-served youth the Dream
of Flight.
I can be reached off list at camdenyouthaviation@live.com or via phone at 856-354-0173.
Thank You for your time and interest.
Sincerely,
Ira Weissman
Co-Founder, Camden Youth Aviation Program
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Giving The Youth Of Camden And Southern New Jersey The Dream Of Flight
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| Subject: | Re: Fly out Caernarfon Sat 8 Aug |
On 05/08/2015 11:09, davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk wrote:
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> Just a reminder that we have a joint Europa Club/Gloster Strut fly out
> to Caernarfon this Saturday. The forecast is currently looking very
> good, with a bit of high pressure, clear skies and modest winds.
> Briefing sheet attached Regards, David Joyce, GXSDJ
>
>
> No virus found in this message.
> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com <http://www.avg.com>
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If you fly over Rhyl, give us a wave. Can't fly in summer have to work.
McWalters Cafe on the sea front opposite the paddling pool. :-)
Danny G- ceri XS tri.
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Considering that it's for youth, presumably with no previous flying experience,
if at all possible convert the undercarriage to tricycle. I built my own Europa
and have over 600 hours experience with the mono-wheel, but I converted mine
to tricycle a couple of years ago because it had twice ground-looped with very
experienced friends at the controls.
To quote the designer "The Mono requires an 'above average pilot' stick and rudder
wise. The pilots that are 'up to it' love them....others all too often become
scared of them and then convert to a tri-gear. All too often before they have
invested in some good training!"
While I greatly enjoyed flying mine as a mono-, I wouldn't advocate letting youth
learn to fly in one and getting put off flying after experiencing a ground-loop
incident. Nobody gets hurt but it's alarming.
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| Subject: | Fwd: partially completed Europa |
> Begin forwarded message:
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> From: Fred Klein <fklein@orcasonline.com>
> Subject: partially completed Europa
> Date: August 5, 2015 at 12:43:29 PM PDT
> To: camdenyouthaviation@live.com
>
> IraI=99m out in the Pacific NW so don=99t feel I
can be of direct assistancenonetheless, I=99m in the
final stage of construction of a Europa XS mono wheel and perhaps I can
be of some bit of long distance, indirect assistance. I have a few
questions:
>
> - Is the donor available for consultation?
>
> - Can you be more specific when you say, =9Cpartially
completed=9D?
>
> - Did the original builder keep a log and is it available?was
there more than one builder?i.e., has the plane passed thru
other builders than the person who originally purchased the kit?
>
> - Have you inventoried the parts and categorized them as installed?,
assembled?, loose? still in packaging?
>
> - Do you have a complete kit including engine and fire wall forward?
>
> - Is your aircraft a =9CClassic=9D or a =9CXS=9D
model Europa?
>
> - Do you have any photos you could send me?
>
> - Has your program built previous aircraft, and if so, what type?
>
> Just off the top of my head, I=99d say (and this is only a
personal opinion) that the Europa, particularly the mono, is not a
suitable aircraft for primary flight training.
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