---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 08/08/15: 11 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:51 AM - Re: Re: Brian Davies (Richard Holder) 2. 07:22 AM - Re: Brian Davies (jonathanmilbank) 3. 12:10 PM - France: Deauville & Honflur (graeme bird) 4. 12:35 PM - Re: France: Deauville & Honflur (Kevin Challis) 5. 12:45 PM - Re: Takeoff technique and runway minima (trigear) (Richard Holder) 6. 02:42 PM - Radiator duct and cooling (William Daniell) 7. 03:30 PM - Re: Fly out Caernarfon Sat 8 Aug (david park) 8. 05:25 PM - Re: Radiator duct and cooling (Bud Yerly) 9. 05:52 PM - Re: Brian Davies (rampil) 10. 06:09 PM - Re: Takeoff technique and runway minima (trigear) (rampil) 11. 06:13 PM - Re: Radiator duct and cooling (William Daniell) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:51:03 AM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Brian Davies From: Richard Holder On 08/08/2015 01:48, rampil wrote: > > Hi Steve! > > What's a "strut", if not a structural member between > a wing and a fuselage? > > Your faithful American Cousin You would call it an EAA "Chapter". Richard ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 07:22:42 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: Brian Davies From: "jonathanmilbank" Analogous with aircraft structure, it is one of the supporting elements of our association. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=445700#445700 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 12:10:30 PM PST US Subject: Europa-List: France: Deauville & Honflur From: "graeme bird" Enjoyed Uk to Deauville Friday. Cycled to Honflur; very pretty, 11km ride, coastal road back. Flew straight over the water from Littlehampton to Le Havre on the way out and tracked the Normandy Landing beaches round to Cherborg on the way back. Thing is I am confused about what's intended for the Coastal airfields; Calaise, Cherbourg etc; they seem to have up to 5 zones around them and NOTAM'd as if they are closed but then they are actually open as normal. Had no problems at all flying through Cherbourg. Also what the situation with airfields marked A/A FRENCH only; is that radio or are foreigners not permitted there? -------- Graeme Bird G-UMPY Mono Classic/XS FFW 912S/Woodcomp 3000/3W Newby: 180 hours 4 years on the Mono g(at)gdbmk.co.uk Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=445704#445704 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 12:35:52 PM PST US From: Kevin Challis Subject: Re: Europa-List: France: Deauville & Honflur a/a French just means all radio is in French as long as you make your calls in French then no problem. I use an idiot sheet. They laugh at me including my French passengers. Kevin Challis > On 8 Aug 2015, at 20:09, graeme bird wrote: > > > Enjoyed Uk to Deauville Friday. Cycled to Honflur; very pretty, 11km ride, coastal road back. Flew straight over the water from Littlehampton to Le Havre on the way out and tracked the Normandy Landing beaches round to Cherborg on the way back. > Thing is I am confused about what's intended for the Coastal airfields; Calaise, Cherbourg etc; they seem to have up to 5 zones around them and NOTAM'd as if they are closed but then they are actually open as normal. > Had no problems at all flying through Cherbourg. > > Also what the situation with airfields marked A/A FRENCH only; is that radio or are foreigners not permitted there? > > -------- > Graeme Bird > G-UMPY > Mono Classic/XS FFW 912S/Woodcomp 3000/3W > Newby: 180 hours 4 years on the Mono > g(at)gdbmk.co.uk > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=445704#445704 > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 12:45:21 PM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: Takeoff technique and runway minima (trigear) From: Richard Holder On 08/08/2015 01:43, rampil wrote: > In a trigear like mine, this is a useless > thought since the flap motor is so slow. > Down here in Georgia where my field > is often at 3,000 - 3,500 density and 2400 > in length, I usually use 5-10 of flaps but it is hard to see much difference. Are you saying you use 5-10 of flaps for take-off ? Mine stays on the ground for ages if I forget (!) to put the flaps down ! I use 15 degrees on tarmac and 19 on grass. With a 10 knot headwind I am off in 250 yards on tarmac and 350 yards on grass (if it isn't too bumpy which messes up the aerodynamics), Density altitude is normally about 300 feet though. HTH Richard Holder G-OWWW Europa Tri-Gear ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 02:42:03 PM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Radiator duct and cooling From: William Daniell I fitted my rad duct and the radiators and its all fine. Cowling fits as well.. However the roof of the duct is pretty much up against the firewall. I am assuming that i need to open the roof of the duct to provide an exit for the air which comes in through the two round holes in the cowling. Is this correct? Also I seem to remember that there is a ratio between inlet and cooling air exhaust. Can anyone enlighten me? Thanks Will ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 03:30:15 PM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: Fly out Caernarfon Sat 8 Aug From: david park Perfect Wx for Caernarfon, nice trip from Sleap but had to leave early to vi sit family member in hospital. 4 Europas there. Regards Dave Park Sent from my iPhone > On 5 Aug 2015, at 11:09, davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk wrote: > > Just a reminder that we have a joint Europa Club/Gloster Strut fly out to C aernarfon this Saturday. The forecast is currently looking very good, with a bit of high pressure, clear skies and modest winds. Briefing sheet attached Regards, David Joyce, GXSDJ > > > > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 05:25:52 PM PST US From: "Bud Yerly" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Radiator duct and cooling Will. Go to Cooling 101 in the techniques section of my website: www.customflightcreations.com. It was also published in the flier and is on other sites on the web. Regards, Bud Yerly From: William Daniell Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2015 5:41 PM Subject: Europa-List: Radiator duct and cooling I fitted my rad duct and the radiators and its all fine. Cowling fits as well.. However the roof of the duct is pretty much up against the firewall. I am assuming that i need to open the roof of the duct to provide an exit for the air which comes in through the two round holes in the cowling. Is this correct? Also I seem to remember that there is a ratio between inlet and cooling air exhaust. Can anyone enlighten me? Thanks Will ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 05:52:48 PM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: Brian Davies From: "rampil" Thanks All for the enlightenment! A good candidate for the UK US transitional dictionary! -------- Ira N224XS Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=445710#445710 ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 06:09:56 PM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: Takeoff technique and runway minima (trigear) From: "rampil" Hi Richard, Yes. When I was based at latitude 41N and had a 4500 concrete runway at sea level, I never used flaps for T/O. Never had a performance issue, but I will admit to not carefully collecting flight test data on take off run. Sadly, my BlueMountain data logging feature was discontinued in my G4 making new collection more onerous. At latitude 33 where the average temp feels 20F warmer, more humid, and starting at 900' AGL, my habit is to use a small amount of flap on my grass strip. Recall that with our flaps, lift increases in the early part of travel and less in the late travel whereas drag increases mostly in the late travel. Without flight test and therefore only my opinion/experience 5 - 10 of flaps increases lift (and minimally at t/o speed, induced drag) and minimally increases form drag. Perhaps at half flap the lift is maxed out without too much extra drag, I would think at 19 you are getting more drag without much more lift. My strip is far too rough to take careful measurements, but perhaps Europa could try a wee bit of CFD since they have the form data and the software. Cheers, -------- Ira N224XS Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=445712#445712 ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 06:13:12 PM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: Radiator duct and cooling From: William Daniell Roger that Thanks On Aug 8, 2015 7:28 PM, "Bud Yerly" wrote: > Will. > Go to Cooling 101 in the techniques section of my website: > www.customflightcreations.com. It was also published in the flier and is > on other sites on the web. > > Regards, > Bud Yerly > > *From:* William Daniell > *Sent:* Saturday, August 08, 2015 5:41 PM > *To:* europa-list@matronics.com > *Subject:* Europa-List: Radiator duct and cooling > > > I fitted my rad duct and the radiators and its all fine. Cowling fits a s > well.. > However the roof of the duct is pretty much up against the firewall. I a m > assuming that i need to open the roof of the duct to provide an exit for > the air which comes in through the two round holes in the cowling. Is th is > correct? Also I seem to remember that there is a ratio between inlet and > cooling air exhaust. 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