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1. 01:18 AM - Re: Fly out Caernarfon Sat 8 Aug (James Kelly)
2. 01:25 AM - Re: cht sensors (Nigel Graham)
3. 01:38 AM - Tail wheel stop (JohnFrance)
4. 01:39 AM - Re: Fly out Caernarfon Sat 8 Aug (davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk)
5. 01:50 AM - Re: Fly out Caernarfon Sat 8 Aug (david park)
6. 03:53 AM - Rotax 914-UL (flyingphil2)
7. 04:57 AM - Re: Rotax 914-UL (jonathanmilbank)
8. 05:22 AM - Re: Rotax 914-UL (davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk)
9. 05:41 AM - Re: Tail wheel stop (rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us)
10. 05:52 AM - Re: Radiator duct and cooling (Neville Eyre)
11. 06:41 AM - Re: Rotax 914-UL (Robert Borger)
12. 06:59 AM - Re: Rotax 914-UL (Bud Yerly)
13. 07:23 AM - Re: Re: tri gear kit for sale (Fred Klein)
14. 08:52 AM - Re: Re: tri gear kit for sale (Duanefamly)
15. 09:22 AM - aluminium avionics panels (JohnFrance)
16. 09:57 AM - Re: aluminium avionics panels (Rowland Carson)
17. 10:11 AM - Re: aluminium avionics panels (Pete)
18. 11:31 AM - Trigear main wheel hub (Richard Wheelwright)
19. 02:10 PM - RE : aluminium avionics panels (mau11)
20. 10:00 PM - Re: aluminium avionics panels (Roland)
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Subject: | Re: Fly out Caernarfon Sat 8 Aug |
Hi David,
I decided to fly to Caernarfon after all. I expected an
awkward cross wind on my return to Tatenhill so I elected to use a disused
R/W 22 instead of 26, all went well.
This was my furthest solo flight I was delighted to meet a few Europa
members. I hope To attend more meetings in the future. I was disappointed
that you couldn't attend I was looking forward to meeting you.
Best wishes
Jim Kelly
G-BWEG
On Wednesday, August 5, 2015, <davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk> wrote:
> Just a reminder that we have a joint Europa Club/Gloster Strut fly out to
> Caernarfon this Saturday. The forecast is currently looking very good, with
> a bit of high pressure, clear skies and modest winds. Briefing sheet
> attached Regards, David Joyce, GXSDJ
>
>
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That's an ingenious solution Erich, but VDO offer their sensors in a
range of thread sizes (including 10 mm).
I've attached their catalogue for a bit of night-time reading.
A quick search shows that they are also available in Europe for around
E25. I never cease to be amused by Rotax's adventurous pricing.
Nigel
On 06/08/2015 21:07, Erich Trombley wrote:
> Bill,
> Just went through this exercise. I was able to find the Rotax sensor,
> just not willing to spend $150 + for what should be a $25 part. I
> ended up purchasing VDO 323-801-010-003K which is threaded for 12mm
> hole. All other specifications are essentially the same as Rotax
> part. Using a lathe I turned down the threads and rethreaded for
> 10mm. Works great.
> Regards,
> Erich
> Classic Mono 914
> Time: 05:56:09 AM PST US
> Subject: Europa-List: Re: cht sensors
> From: "h&jeuropa" <butcher43@att.net
> <http://webmaila.juno.com/webmail/new/5?session_redirect=true&userinfo=7be7591fa5c138193e1c2846a1e1f604&count=1438888422&randid=1346492994>>
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> Bill,
>
> These do not seem to be available any longer. Perhaps someone will
> have a spare
> you can purchase.
>
> If not, there are other VDO sensors with the same internals but
> different threads.
> You could purchase one of those that is a larger diameter and machine the
> threads.
>
> Jim Butcher
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Hello to all,
Does anyone have a plan of the tail-wheel stop that bolts onto the Tail Wheel Fork
XTW 07 to avoid damaging the cables and rudder horns if the aircraft is pushed
backwards?
If someone can send me a copy I would appreciate it.
Regards
John
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Subject: | Re: Fly out Caernarfon Sat 8 Aug |
Jim, Well done & sorry my turbo picked that moment for its waste gate to
jam fully open. We actually fixed it and flew up to arrive at Caernarfon
a bit gone 3.00pm but decided it was a bit late to land. Will hope to
see you at the Rally if not before. Regards, David
On 2015-08-10 09:17, James Kelly wrote:
> Hi David,
> I decided to fly to Caernarfon after all. I expected an awkward cross wind on
my return to Tatenhill so I elected to use a disused R/W 22 instead of 26, all
went well.
>
> This was my furthest solo flight I was delighted to meet a few Europa members.
I hope To attend more meetings in the future. I was disappointed that you couldn't
attend I was looking forward to meeting you.
>
> Best wishes
> Jim Kelly
> G-BWEG
>
> On Wednesday, August 5, 2015, <davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk> wrote:
>
>> Just a reminder that we have a joint Europa Club/Gloster Strut fly out to Caernarfon
this Saturday. The forecast is currently looking very good, with a bit
of high pressure, clear skies and modest winds. Briefing sheet attached Regards,
David Joyce, GXSDJ
>
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Subject: | Re: Fly out Caernarfon Sat 8 Aug |
Hi Steve,
Catch at the next one!
Dave
Sent from my iPhone
> On 10 Aug 2015, at 07:14, Steven Pitt <steven.pitt2@ntlworld.com> wrote:
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> Dave,
> Good to see you at Caernarfon if only in passing. I take it you did not co
unt the Liberty amongst the Europas present!! ;-)
> Sorry that our (events) leader was unable to attend due to a broken turbo -
hope you managed to get it fixed David.
> Excellent day out and great to have an opportunity to fly in the Liberty a
nd compare the two stable mates - thanks Ray.
> Best wishes and here is to more Doths in the months to come.
> Steve Pitt
> G-SMDH (still in the workshop but getting there)
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: david park
> To: europa-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2015 11:28 PM
> Subject: Re: Europa-List: Fly out Caernarfon Sat 8 Aug
>
> Perfect Wx for Caernarfon, nice trip from Sleap but had to leave early to v
isit family member in hospital.
> 4 Europas there.
> Regards Dave Park
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
>> On 5 Aug 2015, at 11:09, davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk wrote:
>>
>> Just a reminder that we have a joint Europa Club/Gloster Strut fly out to
Caernarfon this Saturday. The forecast is currently looking very good, with
a bit of high pressure, clear skies and modest winds. Briefing sheet attach
ed Regards, David Joyce, GXSDJ
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Hi,
This is not a Europa related question as such but there are a fair few Europa owners
with a Rotax 914-UL.
Does anyone with a 914 have anything really good or bad to say about the engine?
Are the running / maintenance costs greatly different to a 912-ULS? Does it
use mogas or avgas just as well? Are there any horror stories related to it
or is it just as good as the 912 but with an extra boost when you need it?
Thanks,
Phil
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Subject: | Re: Rotax 914-UL |
I was invited to do the flight testing for the initial issue of a UK permit in
a friend's mono- a few years ago and thereafter sat with him for several hours
while he became familiar with his aircraft. Apart from that we've done several
other flights together, both near and far. He's also done quite a bit of flying
on his own, seemingly without any trouble. Well, there was one occasion when
an EGT probe needed replacing but that was easy enough to sort out.
Compared with my 100hp 912ULS, the performance is quite exhilarating during take-off,
so much so that during my first fast taxi runs it actually got airborne
around 40 kts (below stall) which took me by surprise. Andy Draper informed me
(and I'm ready to be corrected if memory is failing me) that the stronger propeller
wash generates enough additional lift at the wing roots to cause this
effect. Anyway it definitely happened, so I often didn't bother to put the throttle
through the gate during take-off, using only 100hp and saving the extra
15hp for flying when carrying a passenger.
Climb rate when fully laden is in the order of 1400'/min with full power, which
goes to show that the turbo certainly delivers. The new 915is would be fun to
experience.
Because we used only unleaded mogas, I never got to see the benefits of the turbo
at altitude, but then again I've been a professional helicopter pilot for over
40 years and get nose-bleeds and the jitters much above 1000'. All the limited
heroism I ever had got used up when I was learning to fly in military Harvards
(AT6 Texans) when I was 18. Climbing to 10000' to do spins seemed a waste
of flying time which could have been better spent enjoying the scenery from
much closer to Mother Earth.
The basic 914 weighs 16 lbs more than the basic 912ULS. In level flight I recall
part of the initial test flying required Wide Open Throttle for a short dash
and my friend's mono- Europa hit Vne 165 knots easily enough. So, there are noticeable
performance benefits if you want them.
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Subject: | Re: Rotax 914-UL |
Phil, The turbo wastegate is a definite minus point although versions
more modern than mine now have a lubrication point in the shaft which
should limit the tendency to get stuck. Otherwise it clearly has the
extra power for getting out of tight spots, but the best aspect of it is
that it offers 100% power up to 17,000ft and stays just as efficient as
you climb whilst normally aspirated engines run out of puff. I can do
150kts TAS (130kts IAS) at 10k burning around 21l/hr, which I suspect is
beyond 912/S capabilities. It will use Mogas, UL91 or Avgas, but I try
to avoid the latter as every 91X engine should.
Regards, David Joyce, GXSDJ
On 2015-08-10 11:53, flyingphil2 wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> This is not a Europa related question as such but there are a fair few Europa
owners with a Rotax 914-UL.
>
> Does anyone with a 914 have anything really good or bad to say about the engine?
Are the running / maintenance costs greatly different to a 912-ULS? Does it
use mogas or avgas just as well? Are there any horror stories related to it
or is it just as good as the 912 but with an extra boost when you need it?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Phil
>
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>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=445760#445760 [1]
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Subject: | Re: Tail wheel stop |
Hi John
I fabricated one out of 7000 Aluminium:
http://www.europaowners.org/main.php?g2_itemId=27732
Side note is I didn't like the binding/grinding that was going on
because of the cable angles so turned some conical spacers that work
great. Info contained on the same link.
Ron Parigoris
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Subject: | Re: Radiator duct and cooling |
Hi Will, sounds like you need to move the duct forward, there should be something
like a 1''+ gap between the rear [ 45 degree ] corner of the duct and the bottom
of the S/S firewall. Limiting factor is the coolant hoses to the rad' getting
too close to the exhaust, they will need lagging in firesleeve and reflective
foil oversleeve, [ good thing to do anyway]. Cutting holes in the ''roof''
will only make things worse, the high pressure air in the duct will go up into
the cowl and make a bad job worse.
Not very much air gets through the inlets as supplied, Bud's mod's to the cowl
set up would be the way to go if you intend to operate in warmer climates. We
[Bud and I ] came to the same conclusion at the same time, 3000 miles apart, which
is one of the reasons I did my own cowls / FWF Kit. There are pictures of
my cowls / baffles on this site somewhere, someone more ''techie'' might be
able to direct you to them ?
Cheers,
Nev
-----Original Message-----
From: William Daniell <wdaniell.longport@gmail.com>
Sent: Sat, Aug 8, 2015 10:42 pm
Subject: Europa-List: Radiator duct and cooling
I fitted my rad duct and the radiators and its all fine. Cowling fits as well..
However the roof of the duct is pretty much up against the firewall. I am assuming
that i need to open the roof of the duct to provide an exit for the air
which comes in through the two round holes in the cowling. Is this correct?
Also I seem to remember that there is a ratio between inlet and cooling air exhaust.
Can anyone enlighten me?
Thanks
Will
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Subject: | Re: Rotax 914-UL |
Phil,
I only have good to say for my 914UL. Except for some overtightened
carb bowls (old torque specs) it has proven to be virtually trouble
free. It pulls my Tri off the ground quickly, very brisk acceleration,
climb out at 1400 fpm. At 6500=92, 29=94 MP, 5000 RPM provides 138 kts
true and 3.9 gph. I=92m sure the Airmaster C/S prop helps with all
these. I use 100LL exclusively as MoGas is not available on any of the
airfields from which I operate regularly and I don=92t like carting
around big jugs of MoGas. Just means I have to change the oil more
frequently and watch the lower plugs for fouling. Alcor TCP or Decalin
RunUp seem to help on those lead issues.
I can=92t imagine what the Europa would do with the new 915.
Blue skies & tailwinds,
Bob Borger
Europa XS Tri, Rotax 914, Airmaster C/S Prop (75 hrs).
Little Toot Sport Biplane, Lycoming Thunderbolt AEIO-320 EXP
3705 Lynchburg Dr.
Corinth, TX 76208-5331
Cel: 817-992-1117
rlborger@mac.com
> On Aug 10, 2015, at 4:53 AM, flyingphil2
<flyingphil627-europastuff@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
<flyingphil627-europastuff@yahoo.co.uk>
>
> Hi,
>
> This is not a Europa related question as such but there are a fair few
Europa owners with a Rotax 914-UL.
>
> Does anyone with a 914 have anything really good or bad to say about
the engine? Are the running / maintenance costs greatly different to a
912-ULS? Does it use mogas or avgas just as well? Are there any horror
stories related to it or is it just as good as the 912 but with an extra
boost when you need it?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Phil
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Subject: | Re: Rotax 914-UL |
David and Phil give excellent differences. Here is what I tell my clients:
912S is a reasonable price=2C easy to maintain and easy to service.
It is shaky on start and stop so cracks in the exhaust should be watched cl
osely.
Takeoff is not spectacular=2C but ROC is about 500 FPM. TO Roll is 600-700
feet and initial climb is 800 ish with a constant speed prop.
Being normally aspirated=2C the Bing carbs don't lean well above 3500 MSL.
Normal cruise at 5500 MSL yields about 125-130 KTAS at 5.5GPH.
If you plan flight ops below 10K (5500-7500) it is adequate and can yield 2
5-28 NM/GAL
Runs on 90 octane auto fuel without a hitch.
It gives the most bang for the buck for the Rotax series.
Whereas:
The 914 is nearly twice the price.
Troubleshooting is more time consuming and many of us have studied the syst
ems but easy diagnosis is still time consuming.
Pressurized carbs require careful assembly and attention to leaks.
New TCU units can be electronically monitored and analyzed with DOS 8 compu
ter emulators ONLY.
Wastegates normally require lube (although AV gas seems to keep mine lubed)
Requires high octane in hot climates=2C at least 92-93. (I use 100LL)
However:
When combined with a constant speed propeller (more cost)=2C it is a terrif
ic performance altering addition to the Europa.
Takeoff roll is 550-600 feet at 45 KIAS fully loaded. (Ground static thrust
of 500 pounds.) You scarcely have time to check the engine instruments bef
ore you are at takeoff speed. Initial ROC 1500.
In tests=2C my lowly TRIGEAR climbs at max continuous power at an average o
f 700 FPM to 10=2C000 MSL at 90 KIAS fully loaded and some. Most efficient
cruise MPG seems to be 7500-10=2C000 MSL. I flight plan 1.5 GAL and 18 NM
to get to altitude.
It exceeds 140 knots easily at 1000 MSL at max continuous power.
Cruising at 9.5-10.5K=2C I make 140 KTAS at 5.5 all day. Slow down a bit a
nd I can easily get 28-30 NM/GAL.
Higher cruise altitude does not increase range significantly unless equippe
d with a long range tank and lightly built.
When you have to get over the weather quickly as I do=2C the 914 does it be
tter=2C and more reliable than any other engine out there.
The airplane is 20=2C000 compromises flying in close formation=2C the choic
es are yours.
Best Regards=2C
Bud Yerly
Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID
On Aug 10=2C 2015 6:58 AM=2C flyingphil2 <flyingphil627-europastuff@yahoo.c
o.uk> wrote:
@yahoo.co.uk>
Hi=2C
This is not a Europa related question as such but there are a fair few Euro
pa owners with a Rotax 914-UL.
Does anyone with a 914 have anything really good or bad to say about the en
gine? Are the running / maintenance costs greatly different to a 912-ULS?
Does it use mogas or avgas just as well? Are there any horror stories rel
ated to it or is it just as good as the 912 but with an extra boost when yo
u need it?
Thanks=2C
Phil
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Subject: | Re: tri gear kit for sale |
Danby all means, consider Bob Berubes conventional gearits not an arduous conversion
to make, and results in a rather elegant aircraft IMOFred
> On Aug 9, 2015, at 10:53 PM, danbish99 <bdanbish@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Hi Howard- - was thinking of selling my project due to not being able to get
insurance on a monowheel here in the states. I love the dang monowheel and can't
imagine going tri but it's either that or quit altogether. How much is the
tri kit?
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Subject: | Re: tri gear kit for sale |
Have you thought about conventional gear?
Sent from my iPhone
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> Hi Howard- - was thinking of selling my project due to not being able to get
insurance on a monowheel here in the states. I love the dang monowheel and can't
imagine going tri but it's either that or quit altogether. How much is the
tri kit?
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Subject: | aluminium avionics panels |
Hello, I am looking to upgrade my avionics panel using the aluminium IM04 and IM05!
panels. Does anyone have a plan of their profiles in (any format, dxf, solid
works or pdf) that I can use to refine the layout please? hole cut-outs, shapes
and sizes for all Europa switches, trim indicator etc would also be useful.
While I am at it, my present thinking is to use a Trig TY 91 radio and a Trig TT21
transponder and include a mount for a mini Ipad, but not flush fitting as
I find it useful to be able to orientate the screen according to light direction
and intensity.
If anyone has experience installing these components, especially where and how
to install the electronic boxes for TT21 and TY 91 I would appreciate your feedback.
Regards
John
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Europa mono Nr 192
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Subject: | Re: aluminium avionics panels |
On 10 Aug 2015, at 17:21, JohnFrance <77alembert@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello, I am looking to upgrade my avionics panel using the aluminium IM04 and
IM05! panels. Does anyone have a plan of their profiles in (any format, dxf,
solid works or pdf) that I can use to refine the layout please? hole cut-outs,
shapes and sizes for all Europa switches, trim indicator etc would also be useful.
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> While I am at it, my present thinking is to use a Trig TY 91 radio and a Trig
TT21 transponder and include a mount for a mini Ipad, but not flush fitting as
I find it useful to be able to orientate the screen according to light direction
and intensity.
> If anyone has experience installing these components, especially where and how
to install the electronic boxes for TT21 and TY 91 I would appreciate your feedback.
John - have a look at:
http://www.rowlandcarson.org.uk/aviation/europa_435/radio_panel_trial_fit_2.php
http://www.rowlandcarson.org.uk/aviation/europa_435/panels_anodized.php
http://www.rowlandcarson.org.uk/aviation/europa_435/conduit_route.php
I used the factory-supplied radio blank panel and had it water-jet cut to my .DXF
file, then after anodising had it laser-etched by another firm. More details
available on my journal - use the search facility! Or come back to me direct
if you cant find what youre looking for.
in friendship
Rowland
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Subject: | Re: aluminium avionics panels |
I can't help with locating the boxes, but can chime in with a super endorsement
of the trig kit..... Awesome solid radios that not even my shaky hummelbird could
do damage to. In my tiny bird I mounted them behind my seat bulkHead (the
only feasible spot) which had the benefit of very short rf cable runs. I'm always
5x5.
For sure I will add a set (or at least the head units) to my Europa pile of parts
getting into formation.
Cheers,
Pete
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> Hello, I am looking to upgrade my avionics panel using the aluminium IM04 and
IM05! panels. Does anyone have a plan of their profiles in (any format, dxf,
solid works or pdf) that I can use to refine the layout please? hole cut-outs,
shapes and sizes for all Europa switches, trim indicator etc would also be useful.
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> While I am at it, my present thinking is to use a Trig TY 91 radio and a Trig
TT21 transponder and include a mount for a mini Ipad, but not flush fitting as
I find it useful to be able to orientate the screen according to light direction
and intensity.
> If anyone has experience installing these components, especially where and how
to install the electronic boxes for TT21 and TY 91 I would appreciate your feedback.
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> Regards
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> John
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Subject: | Trigear main wheel hub |
Not shure any one can help ???
I'm looking for a spare Trigear main wheel hub in serviceable condition to be used
as a spare for my aircraft. I know its a long shot but I may be lucky.
Thank You
Richard
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G-IRPW
First Flight 24th July 2013
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Subject: | Re: aluminium avionics panels |
Hi John,
I have made a whole new panel, however it's not "LAA-certified".
I could arrange a new kit (upper GFK-cover and Aluminium-panels/3 sections) for
you at the shop in the Netherlands if you are interested.
Regards
Roland
PH-ZTI
XS Trigear 914
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