---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 08/11/15: 15 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:08 AM - Re: Radiator duct and cooling (Neville Eyre) 2. 01:36 AM - Re: aluminium avionics panels (Rick Moss) 3. 02:35 AM - Re: Rotax 914-UL (Roland) 4. 02:46 AM - FREE TO GOOD HOME! (Miss Europa) 5. 02:53 AM - Re: FREE TO GOOD HOME! (davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk) 6. 03:08 AM - Re: FREE TO GOOD HOME! (Miss Europa) 7. 03:39 AM - Re: FREE TO GOOD HOME! (Miss Europa) 8. 04:11 AM - Re: tri gear kit for sale (h&jeuropa) 9. 04:53 AM - Re: FREE TO GOOD HOME! (spcialeffects) 10. 05:17 AM - Re: Re: FREE TO GOOD HOME! (dpy01) 11. 06:11 AM - Cooling (William Daniell) 12. 06:56 AM - Re: Fly out Caernarfon Sat 8 Aug (Paul Vallis) 13. 02:30 PM - Re: Cooling (Bud Yerly) 14. 03:48 PM - Re: Cooling (William Daniell) 15. 05:07 PM - Eastern US Fly-ins (h&jeuropa) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:08:08 AM PST US From: Neville Eyre Subject: Re: Europa-List: Radiator duct and cooling -----Original Message----- From: Neville Eyre Sent: Mon, Aug 10, 2015 1:52 pm Subject: Re: Europa-List: Radiator duct and cooling Hi Will, sounds like you need to move the duct forward, there should be something like a 1''+ gap between the rear [ 45 degree ] corner of the duct and the bottom of the S/S firewall. Limiting factor is the coolant hoses to the rad' getting too close to the exhaust, they will need lagging in firesleeve and reflective foil oversleeve, [ good thing to do anyway]. Cutting holes in the ''roof'' will only make things worse, the high pressure air in the duct will go up into the cowl and make a bad job worse. Not very much air gets through the inlets as supplied, Bud's mod's to the cowl set up would be the way to go if you intend to operate in warmer climates. We [Bud and I ] came to the same conclusion at the same time, 3000 miles apart, which is one of the reasons I did my own cowls / FWF Kit. There are pictures of my cowls / baffles on this site somewhere, someone more ''techie'' might be able to direct you to them ? Cheers, Nev -----Original Message----- From: William Daniell To: europa-list Sent: Sat, Aug 8, 2015 10:42 pm Subject: Europa-List: Radiator duct and cooling I fitted my rad duct and the radiators and its all fine. Cowling fits as well.. However the roof of the duct is pretty much up against the firewall. I am assuming that i need to open the roof of the duct to provide an exit for the air which comes in through the two round holes in the cowling. Is this correct? Also I seem to remember that there is a ratio between inlet and cooling air exhaust. Can anyone enlighten me? Thanks Will ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 01:36:14 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: aluminium avionics panels From: "Rick Moss" I bought the Europa aluminium blanks, and then cut what I needed out of carbon fibre. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=445808#445808 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/image_258.jpg ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 02:35:40 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: Rotax 914-UL From: "Roland" Although I was a victim of an overboost a few years ago and thus already needed to replace the engine, I would always go for a 914 again, especially since my flying is normally around FL 100 but also often above. At MTOM in FL 100 I see TAS around 125 kt at 19 l/h. In my experience the 914 runs happily on 95 octane premium car fuel (I refuel at the car station on my trailer almost any time) up to temperatures of 40C OAT and up to FL 160 without any hiccup. I cannot remember Rotax recommending another fuel for the 914 compared to the 912S. Another clear plus is, that the 914 is not at all prone to carburetor icing (at least without intercooler). Still the best Rotax engine in my opinion. Regards Roland PH-ZTI XS Trigear 914 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=445809#445809 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 02:46:13 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: FREE TO GOOD HOME! From: "Miss Europa" Monowheel support free to good home. Available from Netherlands. Enquiries, please email karen.ward@europa-aircraft.com -------- Karen Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=445810#445810 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 02:53:11 AM PST US From: davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk Subject: Re: Europa-List: FREE TO GOOD HOME! Karen, Can you explain what it is exactly please? Regards, David Joyce, GXSDJ On 2015-08-11 10:45, Miss Europa wrote: > > Monowheel support free to good home. Available from Netherlands. Enquiries, please email karen.ward@europa-aircraft.com > > -------- > Karen > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=445810#445810 [1] > Links: ------ [1] http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=445810#445810 [2] http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List [3] http://forums.matronics.com [4] http://www.matronics.com/contribution ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 03:08:32 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: FREE TO GOOD HOME! From: "Miss Europa" Yes David sorry. It supports the fuselage, has two wheels (a dolly). I have a photo which I will email you, as I can't seem to add an attachment on the Forum. -------- Karen Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=445812#445812 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 03:39:56 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: FREE TO GOOD HOME! From: "Miss Europa" Item now on it's way to it's new home in the UK! -------- Karen Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=445813#445813 ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 04:11:25 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: tri gear kit for sale From: "h&jeuropa" Dan, We just finished insurance renewal on our mono-wheel. Check with Sky Smith. We have used them for several years and they have placed us with Global. Avemco also gave us a quote. Jim & Heather N241BW Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=445814#445814 ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 04:53:59 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: FREE TO GOOD HOME! From: "spcialeffects" Welcome to the forum Miss Europa Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=445816#445816 ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 05:17:14 AM PST US From: dpy01 Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: FREE TO GOOD HOME! A photograph would still be appreciated please for those of use to construct a solution. Alan #0303 Sent from my iPhone > On 11 Aug 2015, at 11:39, Miss Europa wrote: > > > Item now on it's way to it's new home in the UK! > > -------- > Karen > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=445813#445813 > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 06:11:18 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Cooling From: William Daniell Buds instructions are pretty comprehensive as usual I shall move the round intake holes up to level with the spinner as suggested. I would very much like to see any pics of cooling shrouds/ducts. the aluminium shrouds on Bud's website look like a lot of work. thanks Will William Daniell LONGPORT +57 310 295 0744 ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 06:56:19 AM PST US From: Paul Vallis Subject: Re: Europa-List: Fly out Caernarfon Sat 8 Aug Congratulations Jim, you have obviously mastered the technique for landing t he mono. Hopefully I will see you at the airfield and have a Europa group, well two a nyway meeting soon. Paul Vallis G-SAMY (tri) Sent from my iPhone > On 10 Aug 2015, at 09:17, James Kelly wrote: > > Hi David, > I decided to fly to Caernarfon after all. I expected an a wkward cross wind on my return to Tatenhill so I elected to use a disused R/ W 22 instead of 26, all went well. > > This was my furthest solo flight I was delighted to meet a few Europa memb ers. I hope To attend more meetings in the future. I was disappointed that you couldn't attend I was looking forward to meeting you. > > Best wishes > Jim Kelly > G-BWEG > >> On Wednesday, August 5, 2015, wrote: >> Just a reminder that we have a joint Europa Club/Gloster Strut fly out to Caernarfon this Saturday. The forecast is currently looking very good, with a bit of high pressure, clear skies and modest winds. Briefing sheet attach ed Regards, David Joyce, GXSDJ >> > > > 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 02:30:07 PM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: Cooling From: Bud Yerly Will=2C Only the sealing of the radiators and the opening up of the exit area by mo ving the firewall are necessary=2C provided you increase climb speed on lon g duration climbs. 12AY and most others still cool quite well with just se aling the radiator gaps=2C leaving the cowl stock=2C and moving the firewal l to behind the nose wheel. Mono's can use our flat firewall to increase cooling exit air. If you have long ground taxi=2C must do max performance angles of climb in 30C or hotter weather=2C is engine plenum ducting necessary. Regards=2C Bud Yerly Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID On Aug 11=2C 2015 9:17 AM=2C William Daniell wrote: Buds instructions are pretty comprehensive as usual I shall move the round intake holes up to level with the spinner as suggested. I would very much like to see any pics of cooling shrouds/ducts. the aluminium shrouds on Bud's website look like a lot of work. thanks Will William Daniell LONGPORT +57 310 295 0744 ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 03:48:35 PM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: Cooling From: William Daniell Thanks again Bud, The thing is that I have the engine installed and the firewall done per the manual. Id be loath to undo it all however if thats what it takes..... Do you have an instruction of how to put the firewall behind the nose gear frame? Or a picture at least. I can imagine roughly how it might be done...im thinking putting in a bulkhead and lining it and the tunnel with firewall blanket. I assume the bottom is not covered allowing the air to exhaust. Thanks Will On Aug 11, 2015 4:33 PM, "Bud Yerly" wrote: > Will, > Only the sealing of the radiators and the opening up of the exit area by > moving the firewall are necessary, provided you increase climb speed on > long duration climbs. 12AY and most others still cool quite well with just > sealing the radiator gaps, leaving the cowl stock, and moving the firewall > to behind the nose wheel. > > Mono's can use our flat firewall to increase cooling exit air. > > If you have long ground taxi, must do max performance angles of climb in > 30C or hotter weather, is engine plenum ducting necessary. > > Regards, > Bud Yerly > > *Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID* > On Aug 11, 2015 9:17 AM, William Daniell > wrote: > Buds instructions are pretty comprehensive as usual > > I shall move the round intake holes up to level with the spinner as > suggested. > > I would very much like to see any pics of cooling shrouds/ducts. the > aluminium shrouds on Bud's website look like a lot of work. > > thanks > Will > > > William Daniell > LONGPORT > +57 310 295 0744 > > * > > >http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List > onics.com > ww.matronics.com/contribution > > * > > * > > > * > > ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 05:07:52 PM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Eastern US Fly-ins From: "h&jeuropa" There are two fly-ins coming up in September in the eastern US, both of which sound like a lot of fun. Unfortunately, they are the same weekend. One is in Kentucky, the other is in South Carolina. We encourage you to attend whichever works for you based on your location and weather. It would be great to have a group of Europas at both! Triple Tree Aerodrome Fly-In September 9-13, 2015 SC00 / Woodruff, SC We plan to attend and camp at this fly-in and hope many other Europa owners will join us. The venue sounds terrific and there should be lots of planes to see, interesting seminars on Saturday, great food and nice grounds to walk and enjoy. The website with full details and arrival procedures is http://www.tripletreeaerodrome.com/triple-tree-fly-in.php EAA Rough River Fly-In September 11-13, 2015 2I3 / Rough River State Resort Park, KY We have attended this fly-in and there are many activities, ranging from poker run & spot landing contests to bluegrass music on Friday night and a banquet on Saturday. The website for more information is http://kyeaasportaviation.tripod.com/ If the weather doesnt cooperate for SC, and is good for KY, well be there instead! 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