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Wed 08/12/15


Total Messages Posted: 3



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     1. 01:16 AM - Re: Cooling (davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk)
     2. 03:14 AM - Re: Rotax 914-UL (flyingphil2)
     3. 12:54 PM - Re: Mono/Tri-Gear, height differences (Roland)
 
 
 


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    Time: 01:16:19 AM PST US
    From: davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk
    Subject: Re: Cooling
    Will, I missed the earlier stages of this thread, but an alternative approach to the problem is to fit a propeller with a high degree of twist. I had always had cooling issues (like having to shut down & wait for things to cool down if delayed in a queue to take off at a rally) with my low twist Woodcomp SR 2000 prop which were transformed/eliminated on changing to a high twist Woodcomp Sr3000W, quite apart from going faster and more economically. Warp drive blades and most other blades seen on Rotax powered planes have twist (that is difference in incidence between 1/3 radius & tip) of around12 degrees. Simple analysis shows this is about right for sitting still at half throttle. At air speeds of 100kts the central portion of such propellers is working in beta mode effectively diverting air away from the cooling inlets. Look at any WW2 warbird, racer or modern turbo prop and you will find they all have twists of the order of 28 degrees so that at normal operating speeds, the blade is producing effective thrust along its whole length. I will send you, off network,the text of the analysis/comparitive trials published in the Europa mag some years back. Regards, David Joyce, GXSDJ On 2015-08-11 23:47, William Daniell wrote: > Thanks again Bud, > The thing is that I have the engine installed and the firewall done per the manual. Id be loath to undo it all however if thats what it takes..... > Do you have an instruction of how to put the firewall behind the nose gear frame? Or a picture at least. I can imagine roughly how it might be done...im thinking putting in a bulkhead and lining it and the tunnel with firewall blanket. I assume the bottom is not covered allowing the air to exhaust. > Thanks > Will > On Aug 11, 2015 4:33 PM, "Bud Yerly" <budyerly@msn.com> wrote: > >> Will, >> Only the sealing of the radiators and the opening up of the exit area by moving the firewall are necessary, provided you increase climb speed on long duration climbs. 12AY and most others still cool quite well with just sealing the radiator gaps, leaving the cowl stock, and moving the firewall to behind the nose wheel. >> >> Mono's can use our flat firewall to increase cooling exit air. >> >> If you have long ground taxi, must do max performance angles of climb in 30C or hotter weather, is engine plenum ducting necessary. >> >> Regards, >> Bud Yerly >> >> _Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID_ >> On Aug 11, 2015 9:17 AM, William Daniell <wdaniell.longport@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Buds instructions are pretty comprehensive as usual >> >> I shall move the round intake holes up to level with the spinner as suggested. >> >> I would very much like to see any pics of cooling shrouds/ducts. the aluminium shrouds on Bud's website look like a lot of work. >> >> thanks >> Will >> >> William Daniell LONGPORT >> >> +57 310 295 0744 >> >>> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List [1] >> onics.com [2] >> ww.matronics.com/contribution [3] >> >> arget="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List >> tp://forums.matronics.com >> _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > Links: ------ [1] http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List [2] http://onics.com [3] http://ww.matronics.com/contribution [4] http://forums.matronics.com [5] http://www.matronics.com/contribution


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    Time: 03:14:43 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Rotax 914-UL
    From: "flyingphil2" <flyingphil627-europastuff@yahoo.co.uk>
    Thanks for all the replies on this subject. I must admit that I was wary of the additional complexity of operation and maintenance but it doesn't sound like that's a problem. I almost purchased a flying mono a few years ago that had a 914 but didn't for the very reason that it had a 914. Wish I had now .... it was a good one. Anyway, I've recently flown behind a 914 and all of the numbers in your replies stack up. The initial climb with turbo certainly leaves a smile on your face and I also found that a perfectly safe take off could be achieved without using the extra power. Thanks, Phil Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=445857#445857


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    Time: 12:54:06 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Mono/Tri-Gear, height differences
    From: "Roland" <schmidtroland@web.de>
    Hi Jon, I measured 1,56 m as "top of the Cockpit" of my XS Trigear. Regards Roland Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=445864#445864




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