---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 08/15/15: 14 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 01:04 AM - Re: Last of the Summer Wine (davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk) 2. 01:12 AM - Re: Last of the Summer Wine (davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk) 3. 01:18 AM - Re: Last of the Summer Wine (trevannan) 4. 01:24 AM - Re: Last of the Summer Wine (trevannan) 5. 01:25 AM - Re: Last of the Summer Wine (James Kelly) 6. 01:31 AM - Re: Last of the Summer Wine (david park) 7. 05:02 AM - Re: Last of the Summer Wine (James Kelly) 8. 05:19 AM - Any user feed back of f.u.n.k.e avionics? (Pete Lawless) 9. 06:48 AM - Re: Any user feed back of f.u.n.k.e avionics? (Bryan Nortje) 10. 07:12 AM - Re: Any user feed back of f.u.n.k.e avionics? (YKI) 11. 07:36 AM - Re: Any user feed back of f.u.n.k.e avionics? (Peter Zutrauen) 12. 11:27 AM - Re: Last of the Summer Wine (david park) 13. 05:04 PM - Re: Last of the Summer Wine (James Kelly) 14. 11:15 PM - Arplast, closing down and PV50 support (italianjon) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 01:04:32 AM PST US From: davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk Subject: Re: Europa-List: Last of the Summer Wine Dave, Pleased to. David On 2015-08-14 22:44, david park wrote: > Count me in please. > Dave Park. Based Sleap G-LDVO > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 14 Aug 2015, at 19:23, davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk wrote: > >> The LSOW Trip is due to start on 13 September and now is the time I would like to hear from anyone contemplating joining it, even if you are not totally sure of being able to commit. Once we have an idea of participants we can all join in planning the outline of the trip to best please everyone. >> >> Regards, David Joyce, GXSDJ > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 01:12:53 AM PST US From: davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk Subject: Re: Europa-List: Last of the Summer Wine Jim, Fine. Experience shouldn't be an issue - it is a deliberately relaxed trip, not aiming to cover thousands of miles in a day and you will have any help you need with things like flight plans, customs, route planning. Where are you based? We can no doubt arrange for one of our number to meet up and fly the leg over the channel in loose formation if that is something you would find helpful. Regards, David On 2015-08-14 21:47, James Kelly wrote: > Hi David, > I would like to do the LSOW but my experience is very basic and limited. I'd like to be included in the briefings and maybe I'll pluck up the courage. > > Jim > G-BWEG > > On Friday, August 14, 2015, wrote: > >> The LSOW Trip is due to start on 13 September and now is the time I would like to hear from anyone contemplating joining it, even if you are not totally sure of being able to commit. Once we have an idea of participants we can all join in planning the outline of the trip to best please everyone. >> >> Regards, David Joyce, GXSDJ >> >> arget="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List >> tp://forums.matronics.com >> _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > Links: ------ [1] http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List [2] http://forums.matronics.com [3] http://www.matronics.com/contribution ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 01:18:47 AM PST US From: trevannan Subject: RE: Europa-List: Last of the Summer Wine ======================================= Message Received: Aug 14 2015, 07:32 PM From: davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk Cc: Subject: Europa-List: Last of the Summer Wine The LSOW Trip is due to start on 13 September and now is the time I would like to hear from anyone contemplating joining it, even if you are not totally sure of being able to commit. Once we have an idea of participants we can all join in planning the outline of the trip to best please everyone. Regards, David Joyce, GXSDJ ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 01:24:01 AM PST US From: trevannan Subject: RE: Europa-List: Last of the Summer Wine Hi David I now have a prop ,a trailer and am ready to fly. All I need is a piece of paper from LLA then I am a pilot again. Your trailer is still at Rogers , thank you some much for your patience and help. Roger ======================================= Message Received: Aug 14 2015, 07:32 PM From: davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk Cc: Subject: Europa-List: Last of the Summer Wine The LSOW Trip is due to start on 13 September and now is the time I would like to hear from anyone contemplating joining it, even if you are not totally sure of being able to commit. Once we have an idea of participants we can all join in planning the outline of the trip to best please everyone. Regards, David Joyce, GXSDJ ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 01:25:43 AM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: Last of the Summer Wine From: James Kelly Hello David, Many thanks for the offer of assistance it's a great help. I'm based at Tatenhill. I look forward to hearing from you. Best wishes Jim On Saturday, August 15, 2015, wrote: > Jim, Fine. Experience shouldn't be an issue - it is a deliberately relaxed > trip, not aiming to cover thousands of miles in a day and you will have any > help you need with things like flight plans, customs, route planning. Where > are you based? We can no doubt arrange for one of our number to meet up and > fly the leg over the channel in loose formation if that is something you > would find helpful. > > Regards, David > > > On 2015-08-14 21:47, James Kelly wrote: > > Hi David, > I would like to do the LSOW but my experience is very basic > and limited. I'd like to be included in the briefings and maybe I'll pluck > up the courage. > > Jim > G-BWEG > > On Friday, August 14, 2015, > wrote: > >> The LSOW Trip is due to start on 13 September and now is the time I would >> like to hear from anyone contemplating joining it, even if you are not >> totally sure of being able to commit. Once we have an idea of participants >> we can all join in planning the outline of the trip to best please everyone. >> >> Regards, David Joyce, GXSDJ >> >> >> >> >> * >> >> arget="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List >> tp://forums.matronics.com >> _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution >> >> * >> >> * > > ttp://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List > ics.com > .matronics.com/contribution > > * > > * > > > * > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 01:31:34 AM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: Last of the Summer Wine From: david park James i am based at Sleap if you meed any help. Dave G-LDVO Sent from my iPhone > On 15 Aug 2015, at 09:25, James Kelly wrote: > > Hello David, > Many thanks for the offer of assistance it's a great h elp. I'm based at Tatenhill. > I look forward to hearing from you. > Best wishes > Jim > >> On Saturday, August 15, 2015, wrote: >> Jim, Fine. Experience shouldn't be an issue - it is a deliberately relaxe d trip, not aiming to cover thousands of miles in a day and you will have an y help you need with things like flight plans, customs, route planning. Wher e are you based? We can no doubt arrange for one of our number to meet up an d fly the leg over the channel in loose formation if that is something you w ould find helpful. >> >> Regards, David >> >> >> >> >>> On 2015-08-14 21:47, James Kelly wrote: >>> >>> Hi David, >>> >>> I would like to do the LSOW but my experience is very bas ic and limited. I'd like to be included in the briefings and maybe I'll pluc k up the courage. >>> >>> Jim >>> G-BWEG >>> >>>> On Friday, August 14, 2015, wrote: >>>> The LSOW Trip is due to start on 13 September and now is the time I wou ld like to hear from anyone contemplating joining it, even if you are not to tally sure of being able to commit. Once we have an idea of participants we c an all join in planning the outline of the trip to best please everyone. >>>> >>>> Regards, David Joyce, GXSDJ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> arget="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List >>>> tp://forums.matronics.com >>>> _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ttp://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List >>> ics.com >>> .matronics.com/contribution >> >> >> arget="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List >> tp://forums.matronics.com >> _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution >> > > > 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 05:02:26 AM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: Last of the Summer Wine From: James Kelly Good on ya Dave, Let me know when it's convenient for you to come to Tatenhill or me to come to Sleap. Cheers & best wishes Jim On Saturday, August 15, 2015, david park wrote: > James i am based at Sleap if you meed any help. > Dave G-LDVO > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On 15 Aug 2015, at 09:25, James Kelly > wrote: > > Hello David, > Many thanks for the offer of assistance it's a great > help. I'm based at Tatenhill. > I look forward to hearing from you. > Best wishes > Jim > > On Saturday, August 15, 2015, > wrote: > >> Jim, Fine. Experience shouldn't be an issue - it is a deliberately >> relaxed trip, not aiming to cover thousands of miles in a day and you will >> have any help you need with things like flight plans, customs, route >> planning. Where are you based? We can no doubt arrange for one of our >> number to meet up and fly the leg over the channel in loose formation if >> that is something you would find helpful. >> >> Regards, David >> >> >> >> >> On 2015-08-14 21:47, James Kelly wrote: >> >> Hi David, >> I would like to do the LSOW but my experience is very >> basic and limited. I'd like to be included in the briefings and maybe I'll >> pluck up the courage. >> >> Jim >> G-BWEG >> >> On Friday, August 14, 2015, wrote: >> >>> The LSOW Trip is due to start on 13 September and now is the time I >>> would like to hear from anyone contemplating joining it, even if you are >>> not totally sure of being able to commit. Once we have an idea of >>> participants we can all join in planning the outline of the trip to best >>> please everyone. >>> >>> Regards, David Joyce, GXSDJ >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> * >>> >>> arget="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List >>> tp://forums.matronics.com >>> _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution >>> >>> * >>> >>> * >> >> ttp://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List >> ics.com >> .matronics.com/contribution >> >> * >> >> * >> >> arget="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List >> tp://forums.matronics.com >> _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution >> >> * >> >> > > * > > > * > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 05:19:48 AM PST US From: Pete Lawless Subject: Europa-List: Any user feed back of f.u.n.k.e avionics? Hi All Just thinking of an upgrade to my Microair radio and old Mode C King. Anyone using funke? They appear to be better value than the Trig or Becker but I do not know anyone who uses one. Comments on user experience please. In particular is the built in intercom any good. Thanks Pete G-RMAC Classic #109 ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 06:48:27 AM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: Any user feed back of f.u.n.k.e avionics? From: Bryan Nortje Hi Pete I have fitted both the OLED transceiver and the mode S units in my previous build G-TORO and now fitting them into my recently bought Europa G-CFKZ. IMHO they are fantastic units and if installed properly with good antennae will prove to be great additions to your plane. The built in intercom is brilliant and coupled with good headsets beats anything else hands down. The frequency dual watch facility on the Radio is brilliant. The transponder is also ADS-B ready so supplying a GPS feed and you then visible to any aircraft with TCAS and a further help to ATC units whom don't have secondary radar. If you are a dab hand at electrics i would suggest doing the connector yourself and avoid the pre-made Loom available. I say this purely due to the loom available, (well the one supplied by LX Avionics) is rather heavy and you can buy a plastic connector housing for the Radio from Maplins which is lighter than the one supplied with the radio. Call Mike Pettican from LX Avionics and he will sort a good deal for you. Usually they have units in stock and if you local to the South Northants area you can collect. If you need any further info, don't hesitate to ask. Regards Bryan Sent from my iPad > On 15 Aug 2015, at 07:18, Pete Lawless wrote: > > > Hi All > > Just thinking of an upgrade to my Microair radio and old Mode C King. > > Anyone using funke? They appear to be better value than the Trig or Becker but I do not know anyone who uses one. > > Comments on user experience please. In particular is the built in intercom any good. > > Thanks > > Pete > > G-RMAC Classic #109 > > > > ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 07:12:27 AM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: Any user feed back of f.u.n.k.e avionics? From: YKI Pete, I have a funke TRT800H transponder in my Europa, so far few but good experiences. As for the COM I prefered the Dittel KRT2: excellent unit with a reasonable price, low power consumption, dual watch, there exists an adapter for the Microair COM for an easy upgrade. Very good experiences so far. Have a look at there website for more information. Regards Alfred Von meinem iPad gesendet > Am 15.08.2015 um 14:18 schrieb Pete Lawless : > > > Hi All > > Just thinking of an upgrade to my Microair radio and old Mode C King. > > Anyone using funke? They appear to be better value than the Trig or Becker but I do not know anyone who uses one. > > Comments on user experience please. In particular is the built in intercom any good. > > Thanks > > Pete > > G-RMAC Classic #109 > > > > ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 07:36:58 AM PST US From: Peter Zutrauen Subject: Re: Europa-List: Any user feed back of f.u.n.k.e avionics? as I posted earlier fwiw, I find the Trig set performs terrifically - even in my *very* harsh vibration environment.\ Cheers, Pete A239 (still a pile of parts) C-IPWZ [image: Inline image 1] On Sat, Aug 15, 2015 at 10:11 AM, YKI wrote: > > Pete, I have a funke TRT800H transponder in my Europa, so far few but good > experiences. As for the COM I prefered the Dittel KRT2: excellent unit with > a reasonable price, low power consumption, dual watch, there exists an > adapter for the Microair COM for an easy upgrade. Very good experiences so > far. Have a look at there website for more information. > Regards Alfred > > Von meinem iPad gesendet > > > Am 15.08.2015 um 14:18 schrieb Pete Lawless : > > > > > > Hi All > > > > Just thinking of an upgrade to my Microair radio and old Mode C King. > > > > Anyone using funke? They appear to be better value than the Trig or > Becker but I do not know anyone who uses one. > > > > Comments on user experience please. In particular is the built in > intercom any good. > > > > Thanks > > > > Pete > > > > G-RMAC Classic #109 > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 11:27:05 AM PST US From: david park Subject: Re: Europa-List: Last of the Summer Wine I can nip over sometime will contact you when I can, Send me you phone number. Should be in next couple of weeks. Dave On 15 Aug 2015, at 13:01, James Kelly wrote: > Good on ya Dave, Let me know when it's convenient for you to come to Tatenhill or me to come to Sleap. > Cheers & best wishes > Jim > > On Saturday, August 15, 2015, david park wrote: > James i am based at Sleap if you meed any help. > Dave G-LDVO > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On 15 Aug 2015, at 09:25, James Kelly wrote: > >> Hello David, >> Many thanks for the offer of assistance it's a great help. I'm based at Tatenhill. >> I look forward to hearing from you. >> Best wishes >> Jim >> >> On Saturday, August 15, 2015, wrote: >> Jim, Fine. Experience shouldn't be an issue - it is a deliberately relaxed trip, not aiming to cover thousands of miles in a day and you will have any help you need with things like flight plans, customs, route planning. Where are you based? We can no doubt arrange for one of our number to meet up and fly the leg over the channel in loose formation if that is something you would find helpful. >> >> Regards, David >> >> >> >> On 2015-08-14 21:47, James Kelly wrote: >> >>> Hi David, >>> >>> I would like to do the LSOW but my experience is very basic and limited. I'd like to be included in the briefings and maybe I'll pluck up the courage. >>> >>> Jim >>> G-BWEG >>> >>> On Friday, August 14, 2015, wrote: >>> The LSOW Trip is due to start on 13 September and now is the time I would like to hear from anyone contemplating joining it, even if you are not totally sure of being able to commit. Once we have an idea of participants we can all join in planning the outline of the trip to best please everyone. >>> >>> Regards, David Joyce, GXSDJ >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> arget="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List >>> tp://forums.matronics.com >>> _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution >>> >>> >>> >>> ttp://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List >>> ics.com >>> .matronics.com/contribution >>> >> >> >> arget="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List >> tp://forums.matronics.com >> _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution >> >> >> >> > > > 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D > 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D > 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D > 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D > > > > ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 05:04:42 PM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: Last of the Summer Wine From: James Kelly Contact details 07531157210 home 01782 461946. Thanks Dave Jim On Saturday, August 15, 2015, david park wrote: > I can nip over sometime will contact you when I can, Send me you phone > number. > Should be in next couple of weeks. > Dave > > On 15 Aug 2015, at 13:01, James Kelly > wrote: > > Good on ya Dave, Let me know when it's convenient for you to come to > Tatenhill or me to come to Sleap. > Cheers & best wishes > Jim > > On Saturday, August 15, 2015, david park > wrote: > >> James i am based at Sleap if you meed any help. >> Dave G-LDVO >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> >> On 15 Aug 2015, at 09:25, James Kelly wrote: >> >> Hello David, >> Many thanks for the offer of assistance it's a great >> help. I'm based at Tatenhill. >> I look forward to hearing from you. >> Best wishes >> Jim >> >> On Saturday, August 15, 2015, wrote: >> >>> Jim, Fine. Experience shouldn't be an issue - it is a deliberately >>> relaxed trip, not aiming to cover thousands of miles in a day and you will >>> have any help you need with things like flight plans, customs, route >>> planning. Where are you based? We can no doubt arrange for one of our >>> number to meet up and fly the leg over the channel in loose formation if >>> that is something you would find helpful. >>> >>> Regards, David >>> >>> >>> >>> On 2015-08-14 21:47, James Kelly wrote: >>> >>> Hi David, >>> I would like to do the LSOW but my experience is very >>> basic and limited. I'd like to be included in the briefings and maybe I'll >>> pluck up the courage. >>> >>> Jim >>> G-BWEG >>> >>> On Friday, August 14, 2015, wrote: >>> >>>> The LSOW Trip is due to start on 13 September and now is the time I >>>> would like to hear from anyone contemplating joining it, even if you are >>>> not totally sure of being able to commit. Once we have an idea of >>>> participants we can all join in planning the outline of the trip to best >>>> please everyone. >>>> >>>> Regards, David Joyce, GXSDJ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> * >>>> >>>> arget="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List >>>> tp://forums.matronics.com >>>> _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution >>>> >>>> * >>>> >>>> * >>> >>> ttp://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List >>> ics.com >>> .matronics.com/contribution >>> >>> * >>> >>> * >>> >>> arget="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List >>> tp://forums.matronics.com >>> _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution >>> >>> * >>> >>> >> >> * >> >> 3D============================================ >> 3D============================================ >> 3D============================================ >> 3D============================================ >> >> * >> >> * > > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List ">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List > href="http://forums.matronics.com/ ">http://forums.matronics.com > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution ">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > * > > > * > > > * > > ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 11:15:08 PM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Arplast, closing down and PV50 support From: "italianjon" Hi fellow PV50 owners (and owners of other Arplast props) Has anyone else heard that apparently Arplast are closing down due to product litigation against them. I am going to try to contact them for support on my prop next week. However a view of their website has an Adeiu Arplast press release on it. I bounced it off a French speaker I know on another forum and apparently it is very direct in its statements towards the French appeals court, that allegedly over ruled product laws and aviation expert witnesses in the award of unspecified compensations. Obviously only their side of the story is displayed. Therefore I am wondering if anyone has more details on this? To bring balanced information to light. But also are there any places I could go for advice and support on the prop. I have seemingly excessive play in the tips of 2 blades. The third has a small amount of play but isn't concerning. The documentation available on the PV50 is pitiful and therefore I have no way of knowing the play limits allowed, or if anything can be done to address the play. Therefore what I am looking for is as follows:- 1) play limits allowed on each blade 2) can anything be done by me to improve the play 3) any advice on getting the pv50 overhauled if required. 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