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Mon 09/07/15


Total Messages Posted: 3



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     1. 02:25 AM - Re: Re: Electrics on a Europa. (Brian Davies)
     2. 08:48 AM - Re;: Monowheel inner tubes (John Wigney)
     3. 09:47 AM - Arblast PV 50 Prop. CS Motor, (Alan Carter)
 
 
 


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    Time: 02:25:30 AM PST US
    From: "Brian Davies" <brian.davies@clara.co.uk>
    Subject: Re: Electrics on a Europa.
    Alan, You have some good advice from Bud but if you do not have a multimeter or a wiring diagram it will be difficult to trouble shoot using normal electrical processes. The alternative is to make a few basic checks which can be done with no electrical knowledge or electrical test equipment.. There is a possibility that the alternator supply is insufficient to support the loads that you are applying. Based on previous field experience the part that gives most trouble is the regulator. Most owners don=99t change the firewall forward part of the electrical system so the standard Rotax electrical diagram, available in their manual, or the Europa Build Manual basic electrical diagram should give you some guidance. The alternator supply should be protected by a large fuse or circuit breaker. Track it down and check physically if it is tripped/ blown. You don=99t need a meter for this. Then check all of the connections to the regulator. They are automotive spade connections, normally inside a plastic plug. Check all of the connections are free of corrosion and are tight. Next check the earth connection on the body of the regulator. Remove and clean the earth connection. Next take a deep breath and buy a replacement regulator. If it does not fix it you now have a spare for when yours does fail or you can sell it to someone who has had a regulator failure and is desperate for a replacement. If you are still in trouble you will now need to become an aviation electrical engineer and start proper trouble shooting as described by many posters. Good luck! Regards Brian Davies From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bud Yerly Sent: 06 September 2015 00:17 Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Electrics on a Europa. Alan, A good schematic is worth its weight in gold for troubleshooting. Good advice from all on the charging. It should be about 13.7 volts at 5000 RPM below 15-18 amps draw. I start by pulling all the circuit breakers on the ground. Measure the bat voltage with a volt meter then turn on the master. Check which components come on with the master ( those items not on CBs). The master contactor can draw one amp. Look up your solenoid specs. You need to use a VTVM or amp/ volt/ohm meter to check amp draw as you flip on components. Next, ensure your C or control voltage reads battery voltage. Look to see your alternator to panel or battery contact is secure. Then start pushing in CBs to assess. Make a list of the components on each of your CBs and their draw if you can. As an example, a turn and slip going bad can be troublesome as the flag doesn't show but it is burning up amps instead of running at less than an amp. In my opinion, the only way to check the health of your electrical system in flight is with a volt and amp meter. You may want to invest in one. Westach makes a nice combo instrument. Keep plugging away you'll find the cause. Bud Yerly, Custom Flight Creations, Inc. Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID On Aug 31, 2015 10:43 AM, Alan Carter <alancarteresq@onetel.net> wrote: <alancarteresq@onetel.net> Hi , Bob, Peter. I have no low voltage warning light just a voltmeter, The problem is that in cruise my with all my panel working, that's the T/Co- odinator, TCU, FlyDat Engine inst,, 1 Fuel Pump, 1 Strobe Lt, Skyforce GPS, Transponder, Radio, I get about 12.1 volts showing, Pull all the CBs and you get a little more showing. Now if you switch the MASTER SWITCH OFF, it fly's up to 13.1 volts. I take it now that the Alternator has taken over the supply to the fuel pump provided its turned ON. So with the Master switch off and 13+ volts coming out it does not look like being the Alternator or Rectifier, wear is the power going ????? 12v is not enough to maintain a full battery Have bought a new battery ,but the old one is as good as the new one, so it not the battery. Alan Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=446614#446614 ; - The Europa-List Email Forum - r?Europa-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List ; - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - ://forums.matronics.com ; - List Contribution Web Site - ; -Matt Dralle, List Admin. tion">http://www.matronics.com/contribution No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com 09/06/15


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    Time: 08:48:05 AM PST US
    From: John Wigney <johnwigney@windstream.net>
    Subject: Re;: Monowheel inner tubes
    Hi Paul, I found an alternative at http://www.gaithersburgequipment.com/SearchResults.asp?Search=tube+15x6.00-6&Submit=Search Relatively inexpensive at $7.14. Cheers, John ORIGINAL MESSAGE From: "Paul McAllister"<paul.the.aviator@gmail.com> Subject: Europa-List: Monowheel inner tubes Hello Everyone, I was greeted at the hanger today by the sight of a flat tire so I went to my usual online source (Wicks) and they no longer seem to stock the inner tubes I need. Could anyone tell me where they source them from these days? Thanks, Paul


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    Time: 09:47:55 AM PST US
    Subject: Arblast PV 50 Prop. CS Motor,
    From: "Alan Carter" <alancarteresq@onetel.net>
    Hi All. My PV50 CS motor failed in the climb out, just maintained 80 kts, high nose attitude but made it home. After landing found power reaching the motor, 11.9 volts, so its the motor that's failed. Q1. Where do I get a new PV 50 CS electric motor from. Q2. Which bit is the motor, or how do you take the motor out, Long shaft with motor on the end of it, this piece of shaft with motor on it is secured with three small bolts to the prop, is this the complete unit to be replaced, OR is it the little black motor on the end of the shaft only needs replacing. ie unsolder the two wire, and with a pair of grips turn and unscrew the motor off the end of the Shaft. Alan Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=446864#446864




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