Europa-List Digest Archive

Sun 09/13/15


Total Messages Posted: 7



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     1. 12:56 AM - Re: Araldite 420A/B (Redux) Realistic Shelf Life (Bill Sisley)
     2. 01:39 AM - Re: Araldite 420A/B (Redux) Realistic Shelf Life (Graeme Hart)
     3. 02:24 PM - Re: Araldite 420A/B (Redux) Realistic Shelf Life (pestar)
     4. 02:53 PM - NZ Europa For Sale (Chris Cameron)
     5. 03:17 PM - Re: Re: Araldite 420A/B (Redux) Realistic Shelf Life (Graeme Hart)
     6. 06:41 PM - Re: NZ Europa For Sale (spcialeffects)
     7. 08:36 PM - Re: Re: NZ Europa For Sale (Chris Cameron)
 
 
 


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    Time: 12:56:37 AM PST US
    From: Bill Sisley <bill.sue@orcon.net.nz>
    Subject: Re: Araldite 420A/B (Redux) Realistic Shelf Life
    Hi Graeme, Seeing your ref to Australia and New Zealand I was just wondering where you a re based. Cheers Bill Sisley Mono 914/Airmaster ZKCHV Sent from my iPad > On 13/09/2015, at 4:30 pm, Graeme Hart <graeme.hart@onecoolkat.com> wrote: > > Thanks Fred, I appreciate the suggestions. Do you have any suggestions ab out how to test the bond strength? > > > Thanks spcialeffects for your input too, while the use of old glue is defi nitely a concern for me at least I am able to test and verify performance. T he bigger concern for me is that I'm building from a kit that has had at lea st three previous owners. I will check their work as far as I can but there are some areas of the aircraft where I am unable to see what they have done . > > Ultimately any aircraft is a collection of trade offs and compromises and t his is just one of many. Hopefully Huntsman will come through on Monday wit h a reasonable price for 1.4kg of Araldite 420 and I can just buy it from th em. > >> On Sun, Sep 13, 2015 at 11:36 AM, Fred Klein <fklein@orcasonline.com> wro te: >> =46rom past discussion on this forum, I=99d ignore the expiry date. ..I=99d suggest opening the containers and determining whether or not c rystals have formedif they have, warm the Redux container in a pot o f water on the stove, stirring until crystals have dissolved, then proceed w / a test strip or two to determine current bond strength. >> >> just my thoughts on what I=99d do >> >> Fred >> >>> On Sep 12, 2015, at 4:04 PM, Graeme Hart <graeme.hart@onecoolkat.com> wr ote: >>> >>> Hi All >>> >>> I am the proud new owner of Europa XS Tri-gear kit A-101. >>> >>> Today I was going through the kit and I found some unopened cans of this miracle glue. >>> >>> The cans were manufactured in 2005 and are labelled with an expiry date 6 months later in early 2006. >>> >>> In the perfect world I would just buy new adhesive but as this glue is h ard to obtain (at a reasonable price) I'm considering using the glue I have. >>> >>> The cans show no sign of corrosion and are unopened. >>> >>> Does anyone know what the realistic shelf life of this product is? Alte rnatively if anyone knows of a source in New Zealand or Australia so I can m inimise dangerous goods shipping charges that would be very helpful (I'm alr eady in an email conversation with Huntsman in Australia). >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Thanks >>> Graeme >>> >>> >>> class="">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List >>> class="">http://forums.matronics.com >>> class="">http://www.matronics.com/contribution >>> >> >> >> >> arget="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List >> tp://forums.matronics.com >> _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution >> > > > 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >


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    Time: 01:39:59 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Araldite 420A/B (Redux) Realistic Shelf Life
    From: Graeme Hart <graeme.hart@onecoolkat.com>
    Hi Bill I am based in Wellington. I bought the kit from a guy in Auckland who imported it from USA about 10 years ago. Regards Graeme On Sun, Sep 13, 2015 at 7:55 PM, Bill Sisley <bill.sue@orcon.net.nz> wrote: > Hi Graeme, > > Seeing your ref to Australia and New Zealand I was just wondering where > you are based. > > Cheers > Bill Sisley > Mono 914/Airmaster > ZKCHV > > Sent from my iPad > >


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    Time: 02:24:14 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Araldite 420A/B (Redux) Realistic Shelf Life
    From: "pestar" <peter@reivernet.com>
    Now if not already be a good boy and join the Sport Aircraft Association of NZ (SAANZ) where they are great guys ready to help including Bill Sisley Europa owner and President of the SAA. For other folk the SAA is the equivalent of the LAA, EAA. :D Cheers Peter -------- Peter Armstrong Auckland, New Zealand DynAero MCR-4S (Do not shoot me :) ). Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=447044#447044


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    Time: 02:53:03 PM PST US
    From: Chris Cameron <chris@cameron.org.nz>
    Subject: NZ Europa For Sale
    This would be a good opportunity for me to respond, again, that as I have lost my medical, I would like to sell my Europa Kit. It is actually Tony K's almost completed kit and deserves to fly. If anyone in New Zealand knows a potential buyer, please put them in touch with me. I'm happy to negotiate a price with any genuine enquiries. Cheers Chris Sent from my iPad > On 14/09/2015, at 09:05, pestar <peter@reivernet.com> wrote: > > > Now if not already be a good boy and join the Sport Aircraft Association of NZ (SAANZ) where they are great guys ready to help including Bill Sisley Europa owner and President of the SAA. For other folk the SAA is the equivalent of the LAA, EAA. :D > > Cheers Peter > > -------- > Peter Armstrong > Auckland, New Zealand > DynAero MCR-4S (Do not shoot me :) ). > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=447044#447044 > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 03:17:12 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Araldite 420A/B (Redux) Realistic Shelf Life
    From: Graeme Hart <graeme.hart@onecoolkat.com>
    Thanks Peter, I am already a member of SAANZ and the Wellington chapter of SAANZ. I also attended the intro to home building course held recently. Unfortunately there are no Europa builders I have been able to find near Wellington but there are a few that have built other composite aircraft. > On 14 Sep 2015 09:29, "pestar" <peter@reivernet.com> wrote: >> >> >> Now if not already be a good boy and join the Sport Aircraft Association of NZ (SAANZ) where they are great guys ready to help including Bill Sisley Europa owner and President of the SAA. For other folk the SAA is the equivalent of the LAA, EAA. :D >> >> Cheers Peter >> >> -------- >> Peter Armstrong >> Auckland, New Zealand >> DynAero MCR-4S (Do not shoot me :) ). >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=447044#447044 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>


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    Time: 06:41:31 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: NZ Europa For Sale
    From: "spcialeffects" <spcialeffects@aol.com>
    This must be THE most famous and most inspiring Europa of all! I know for me before I started my kit I was reading all about this one and for it not to get finished and fly would be a travesty. Good luck with the sale Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=447047#447047


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    Time: 08:36:21 PM PST US
    From: Chris Cameron <chris@cameron.org.nz>
    Subject: Re: NZ Europa For Sale
    Thanks, It isn't something I'm doing lightly, but she deserves to fly! My specialist wants to contest the medical decision, but I'm not going to throw more money at it! If anyone is in the Wellington region of NZ and wants to take a look at her, I can spend as much time as you like :)! Cheers Chris Sent from my iPad > On 14/09/2015, at 13:16, spcialeffects <spcialeffects@aol.com> wrote: > > > This must be THE most famous and most inspiring Europa of all! I know for me before I started my kit I was reading all about this one and for it not to get finished and fly would be a travesty. Good luck with the sale > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=447047#447047 > > > > > > > > > >




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