---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 11/25/15: 4 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 0. 09:13 AM - What Are You Thankful For...? (Matt Dralle) 1. 01:30 AM - Re: Re: Altitude Hold kit. Trio. (roddyeuropa@aol.com) 2. 01:50 AM - Re: Re: Altitude Hold kit. Trio. (david park) 3. 02:04 AM - Re: Re: Altitude Hold kit. Trio. (roddyeuropa@aol.com) ________________________________ Message 0 _____________________________________ Time: 09:13:03 AM PST US From: Matt Dralle Subject: Europa-List: What Are You Thankful For...? Dear Listers, Here in the United States, Thursday is our National day of Thanksgiving. Many of us will be traveling to be with our families and friends to share in generous feasts of plenty and giving thanks for the many blessings that have been bestowed upon us. 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The List Contribution Site is: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, drop a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 USA Thank you in advance for your kind consideration, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 01:30:50 AM PST US From: roddyeuropa@aol.com Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Altitude Hold kit. Trio. I did this mod a couple of years back and used the original CS10 torque tube, and had the europa supplied lugs welded on by a local specialist aircraft welder. I preferred to keep the original control system as much the same as possible. Getting the lugs welded on was not the hardest part - its a lot of work to get the torque tube out, and also very fiddly to connect the new servo rod - there is just so little room to work. In answer to your question "I just want to confirm that the Alt. Hold horn is exactly the same orientation as the Stabilator port horn" I'm pretty sure that the horn is not the same orientation, but the drawings in mod 76 show the correct position. The position is vital - I made a jig to hold it in place so there was no question of the welder putting it in the wrong place. So good luck! Roddy Kesterton G-IKRK -----Original Message----- From: david park Sent: Tue, 24 Nov 2015 23:16 Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Altitude Hold kit. Trio. Europa supply a kit to modify the CS10 by welding the two horns onto the CS10 to take the pushrod from the servo. Dave Sent from my iPhone > On 24 Nov 2015, at 22:12, graeme bird wrote: > > > Have you replaced cs10 then ? How easy was it? > It sounds like you are adding horns to the existing. > > -------- > Graeme Bird > G-UMPY > Mono Classic/XS FFW 912S/Woodcomp 3000/3W > Newby: 200 hours 4 years on the Mono > g(at)gdbmk.co.uk > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=450192#450192 > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 01:50:11 AM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Altitude Hold kit. Trio. From: david park Just to be certain, i only want to do this once!!!! Did you translate the angle from the drawings on Mod 76. Dave Sent from my iPhone > On 25 Nov 2015, at 09:28, roddyeuropa@aol.com wrote: > > I did this mod a couple of years back and used the original CS10 torque tu be, and had the europa supplied lugs welded on by a local specialist aircraf t welder. I preferred to keep the original control system as much the same a s possible. Getting the lugs welded on was not the hardest part - its a lot o f work to get the torque tube out, and also very fiddly to connect the new s ervo rod - there is just so little room to work. > In answer to your question "I just want to confirm that the Alt. Hold horn is exactly the same orientation as the Stabilator port horn" I'm pretty sur e that the horn is not the same orientation, but the drawings in mod 76 show the correct position. The position is vital - I made a jig to hold it in pl ace so there was no question of the welder putting it in the wrong place. So good luck! > Roddy Kesterton > G-IKRK > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: david park > To: europa-list > Sent: Tue, 24 Nov 2015 23:16 > Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Altitude Hold kit. Trio. > > > Europa supply a kit to modify the CS10 by welding the two horns onto the C S10 to take the pushrod from the servo. > Dave > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > On 24 Nov 2015, at 22:12, graeme bird wrote: > > > > > > Have you replaced cs10 then ? How easy was it? > > It sounds like you are adding horns to the existing. > > > > -------- > > Graeme Bird > > G-UMPY > > Mono Classic/XS FFW 912S/Woodcomp 3000/3W > > Newby: 200 hours 4 years on the Mono > > g(at)gdbmk.co.uk > > > > > > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=450192#450192 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 02:04:28 AM PST US From: roddyeuropa@aol.com Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Altitude Hold kit. Trio. I think so, but it was a while ago. I think I set it up with the angles shown and then checked that there was sufficient movement full forward and back, and that there was no danger of 'over centre', the real no no. And yes, you wouldn't want to do this mod too many times! Roddy. -----Original Message----- From: david park Sent: Wed, 25 Nov 2015 9:50 Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Altitude Hold kit. Trio. Just to be certain, i only want to do this once!!!! Did you translate the angle from the drawings on Mod 76. Dave Sent from my iPhone On 25 Nov 2015, at 09:28, roddyeuropa@aol.com wrote: I did this mod a couple of years back and used the original CS10 torque tube, and had the europa supplied lugs welded on by a local specialist aircraft welder. I preferred to keep the original control system as much the same as possible. Getting the lugs welded on was not the hardest part - its a lot of work to get the torque tube out, and also very fiddly to connect the new servo rod - there is just so little room to work. In answer to your question "I just want to confirm that the Alt. Hold horn is exactly the same orientation as the Stabilator port horn" I'm pretty sure that the horn is not the same orientation, but the drawings in mod 76 show the correct position. The position is vital - I made a jig to hold it in place so there was no question of the welder putting it in the wrong place. So good luck! Roddy Kesterton G-IKRK -----Original Message----- From: david park Sent: Tue, 24 Nov 2015 23:16 Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Altitude Hold kit. Trio. Europa supply a kit to modify the CS10 by welding the two horns onto the CS10 to take the pushrod from the servo. Dave Sent from my iPhone > On 24 Nov 2015, at 22:12, graeme bird wrote: > > > Have you replaced cs10 then ? How easy was it? > It sounds like you are adding horns to the existing. > > -------- > Graeme Bird > G-UMPY > Mono Classic/XS FFW 912S/Woodcomp 3000/3W > Newby: 200 hours 4 years on the Mono > g(at)gdbmk.co.uk > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=450192#450192 > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message europa-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Europa-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/europa-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/europa-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.