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Sun 11/29/15


Total Messages Posted: 7



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     0. 09:32 AM - [PLEASE READ] Why I Have A Fund Raiser...  (Matt Dralle)
     1. 12:28 AM - Re: Fitting MOD 52 after MOD 74 (Clive Sutton)
     2. 01:40 AM - Re: Fitting MOD 52 after MOD 74 (italianjon)
     3. 02:39 AM - Re: Fitting MOD 52 after MOD 74 (Clive Sutton)
     4. 10:52 AM - Re: Europa Servos (graeme bird)
     5. 01:14 PM - Re: Re: Europa Servos (david park)
     6. 01:52 PM - Re: Re: Europa Servos (David private)
 
 
 


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    Time: 09:32:25 AM PST US
    From: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
    Subject: [PLEASE READ] Why I Have A Fund Raiser...
    Since the beginning, the Matronics List and Forum experience has been free from advertising. I have been approached by fair number of vendors wanting to tap into the large volume of activity across the various lists hosted here, but have always flatly refused. Everywhere you go on the Internet these days, a user is pummeled with flashing banners and videos and ads for crap that they don't want. Yahoo, Google and that elk are not "free". The user must constantly endure their barrage of commercialism thrust into their face at an ever increasing rate. Enough is enough, and the Lists at Matronics choose not to succumb to that. That being said, running a service of this size is not "free". It costs a lot of money to maintain the hardware, pay for the electricity, air conditioning, maintenance contracts, etc, etc. etc. I choose to hold a PBS-like fund raiser each year during the month of November where I simply send out a short email every other day asking the members to make a small contribution to support the operation. That being said, that contribution is completely voluntary and non-compulsory. Many members choose not to contribute and that's fine. However, a very modest percentage of the members do choose to make a contribution and it is that financial support that keeps the Lists running. And that's it. To my way of thinking, it is a much more pleasant way of maintaining the Lists and Forums. The other 11 months of the year, you don't see a single advertisement or request for support. That's refreshing and that is a List and Forum that I want to belong to. I think other people feel the same way. Won't you please take a minute to make your Contribution today and support these Lists? http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, drop a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 USA Thank you for your support! Matt Dralle Email List Admin.


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    Time: 12:28:26 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Fitting MOD 52 after MOD 74
    From: "Clive Sutton" <clive.maf@googlemail.com>
    Hi Jon, I had the same situation and sorted it out thus, this summer; I found the tie-bar fitted during MOD 74 was re-useable without any changes, but i had to replace the rear lift pins (which meant opening the wing up again to gain access to the nyloc nuts), fit the articulating rear pin sockets in place of the originals - ensuring that the wing sweep does not change, change both sets of spar bushes to accommodate the larger diameter pins and install the (new) spar strap. Karen shopuld be able to sell you the "MOD52 post MOD 74" parts kit . . . I hope that helps. Clive. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=450521#450521


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    Time: 01:40:42 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Fitting MOD 52 after MOD 74
    From: "italianjon" <jon.catilli@gmail.com>
    Hi Clive, Thanks for the reply. I don't yet fully understand all aspect of the MOD, I am working on the paper work more through today. With your description of your experience, I have understood that you didn't have W26A, W26B and W26C already installed? And it was just the "standard" MOD72 installed with W34. Is that correct? If my interpretation is correct, then in order to fit the articulating rear sockets to the Tie Bar you have to modify the rear wing lift pins. My logic is that because, on mine, W26A, W26B and W26C is already installed, then I don't need to re-open the wing. I am hoping this is the case, because modification of the Main Wing Spar and addition of the Spar strap seem to be the easier sections of MOD 52. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=450522#450522


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    Time: 02:39:50 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Fitting MOD 52 after MOD 74
    From: "Clive Sutton" <clive.maf@googlemail.com>
    Hi Jon, My starting point was with the rear pin sockets without the vertical hole for the pip-pin, the tie-bar with the smaller diameter spar pins/bushes and the matching smaller diameter spar pins, installed (= MOD 74 but without the larger pins). The new articulating sockets stand off of the fuselage a bit more than the old ones - so unless this has already been done, you will need to install the new sockets. Because of that you will also need to open up the wing to get at the Nyloc nuts and adjust them to a new pin length. The re-rigging/checking wing sweep etc to do that is probably the most onerous part of doing the MOD Your inspector will know best of course (though i'm an engineer by profession, i am not an inspector). Detling eh - i grew up in Biddenden and know Maidstone fairly well. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=450523#450523


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    Time: 10:52:23 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Europa Servos
    From: "graeme bird" <graeme@gdbmk.co.uk>
    The CS10 horns are made from 4130 but does anyone know the thickness? The drawing says 'as existing' I am guessing about 2mm -------- Graeme Bird G-UMPY Mono Classic/XS FFW 912S/Woodcomp 3000/3W Newby: 200 hours 4 years on the Mono g(at)gdbmk.co.uk Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=450602#450602


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    Time: 01:14:54 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Europa Servos
    From: david park <dpark748@icloud.com>
    Just bought the horns for Mod 76 will measure in the morning. Dave G-LDVO Sent from my iPhone > On 29 Nov 2015, at 18:51, graeme bird <graeme@gdbmk.co.uk> wrote: > > > The CS10 horns are made from 4130 but does anyone know the thickness? The drawing says 'as existing' I am guessing about 2mm > > -------- > Graeme Bird > G-UMPY > Mono Classic/XS FFW 912S/Woodcomp 3000/3W > Newby: 200 hours 4 years on the Mono > g(at)gdbmk.co.uk > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=450602#450602 > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 01:52:26 PM PST US
    From: David private <stranfaer@btinternet.com>
    Subject: Re: Europa Servos
    Where did horns come from please Sent from my iPhone > On 29 Nov 2015, at 21:14, david park <dpark748@icloud.com> wrote: > > > Just bought the horns for Mod 76 will measure in the morning. > Dave G-LDVO > > Sent from my iPhone > > >> On 29 Nov 2015, at 18:51, graeme bird <graeme@gdbmk.co.uk> wrote: >> >> >> The CS10 horns are made from 4130 but does anyone know the thickness? The drawing says 'as existing' I am guessing about 2mm >> >> -------- >> Graeme Bird >> G-UMPY >> Mono Classic/XS FFW 912S/Woodcomp 3000/3W >> Newby: 200 hours 4 years on the Mono >> g(at)gdbmk.co.uk >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=450602#450602 > > > > >




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