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1. 01:59 AM - Re: Gascolater position (davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk)
2. 08:31 AM - Re: Fuselage luggage bay "D" panel (AirEupora)
3. 08:56 AM - Re: Re: Fuselage luggage bay "D" panel (elsbeth moreland)
4. 09:00 AM - Re: Re: Fuselage luggage bay "D" panel (William Daniell)
5. 09:00 AM - Re: Gascolater position (spcialeffects)
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| Subject: | Re: Gascolater position |
Frank, I have flown with the system you describe for 13 yrs - an Andair
mini gascolator + drain valve, mounted on the baggage bay upright and
accessed by a flap under the fuselage. I orientated mine to be vertical
in level flight, (thinking this would let it be as efficient as can be),
and have found no issues with it having 7 degrees backward slope when on
the ground. I have incidentally never found any water and precious
little else after the first 50 hrs when gunge was appearing from the
fuel system.
HNY, David Joyce, GXSDJ
On 2015-12-30 18:00, spcialeffects wrote:
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> I am building a mono classic and have a question about the angle of the gascolater.
I am at the moment installing the fuel system, pumps and gascolater, under
the port side baggage area. I haven't yet topped out which makes it all the
easier. I am about to make a hinged flap under the gascolater, however when
the aircraft is on the ground, on its own wheels, I want the gascolater to point
straight down so it's easy to drain, replace the filter etc. So my question
is.....using the top edge of the lower fuselage as a datum what angle should
it be at in order for the gascolater to be positioned to point straight down?
> Many thanks Frank
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=451517#451517 [1]
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Links:
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[1] http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=451517#451517
[2] http://www.buildersbooks.com
[3] http://www.matronics.com/contribution
[4] http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List
[5] http://forums.matronics.com
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| Subject: | Re: Fuselage luggage bay "D" panel |
Sorry it has taken so long to get back to you, but I had to go to the hangar yesterday
to take a picture. I thought I had some pictures when I did the work.
I think I did the cut during the first condition inspection. I found I just
could not get into the back to check things out.
I made the cut straight down from the "D" (F08) spacer or hat rack. If you look
closely at the picture you can see the cut between the "D" spacer and the bottom
panel Then straight across the baggage then up to the "D" spacer. I made
the bottom cut 1 inch above the curve section on the bottom. I then re-enforce
the panel with three layers of 2" fiber-glass tape with 1 inch on the outside
of the cut. I laid the panel flat and let the resin dry then installed nutplates
along the backside and the bottom of the cut.
I later found the bottom flange cracked out because of my weight during the inspection.
I had to go back and re-enforce this section. I then had to use a 1
inch pad or board to keep from lying on the flange.
If I did the work again I'd cut the curve so it would be flat and the screws and
nut plates would be on the bottom of the floor and nothing would be sticking
up.
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=451571#451571
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| Subject: | Re: Fuselage luggage bay "D" panel |
Hey Richard,
Bill Moreland here and I have recently purchased a Europa XS and have
been reading this matronics .com site ttying to find other owners close
enough to me that we could possibly meet up occasionally at an airport or
wherever to chat about these planes. Was wondering where you are located? I
am in Bedford,Pa. I also see that you are 6,5" and Wondering how you
sqeezinto an Europa? You must have a mod that widens the cockpit a little
Huh? And where would I find out about this? I am only 5,9" and find it
quite snug. Would love it to hve more elbow room.
Well if you can make sense out of this email I would welcome a call from
you. Maybe just to give me an idea of how to find other local Europa owners
and your experience with the Europa community.
Thanks Bill Moreland 814-977-5123
On Wed, Dec 30, 2015 at 3:54 PM, Richard Scanlan <aspenbuild@me.com> wrote:
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> Hi Gary,
> I'm 6'5 and with the high top mod find my mono perfect even on long trips.
> Maybe the tallest Europa owner!
>
> Richard S
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> > On 30 Dec 2015, at 21:26, gleinberger <gleinberger@millersville.edu>
> wrote:
> >
> gleinberger@millersville.edu>
> >
> > First, I am glad to see there are other properly sized people flying the
> Europa. At 255 lbs. and 6 foot, I believe the Europa was designed by a
> team of elfs, dwarfs and hobbits.
> >
> > Getting in the back is a real pain - and don't forget the tail support -
> the feeling of the tail going to the floor as you are sliding through the
> infamous D hole is exciting.
> >
> > Use a wide board that fits over the tank and then crawl back on it (Bud
> Yearly hint number 756.)
> >
> > Gary Leinberger
> > Lancaster, Pa.
> > A237
> > 285 hours and loving it.
> >
> > --------
> > Gary Leinberger
> > A237
> > Getting Very Close
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Read this topic online here:
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> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=451530#451530
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| Subject: | Re: Fuselage luggage bay "D" panel |
That looks like it makes life much easier. I see you're flying so
obviously it hasn't affected the structure,
Is there any rule when you substitute a panel for a bonded structure in
terms of fasteners per distance.
I still haven't installed the bulkhead and so have the opportunity to
modify it on the bench as it were. I suppose that I could simply make a
single panel incorporan the D panel instead of the two that you have.
Thanks thats helpful
William Daniell
LONGPORT
+57 310 295 0744
On Thu, Dec 31, 2015 at 11:30 AM, AirEupora <AirEupora@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
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> Sorry it has taken so long to get back to you, but I had to go to the
> hangar yesterday to take a picture. I thought I had some pictures when I
> did the work. I think I did the cut during the first condition
> inspection. I found I just could not get into the back to check things out.
>
> I made the cut straight down from the "D" (F08) spacer or hat rack. If you
> look closely at the picture you can see the cut between the "D" spacer and
> the bottom panel Then straight across the baggage then up to the "D"
> spacer. I made the bottom cut 1 inch above the curve section on the
> bottom. I then re-enforce the panel with three layers of 2" fiber-glass
> tape with 1 inch on the outside of the cut. I laid the panel flat and let
> the resin dry then installed nutplates along the backside and the bottom of
> the cut.
>
> I later found the bottom flange cracked out because of my weight during
> the inspection. I had to go back and re-enforce this section. I then had
> to use a 1 inch pad or board to keep from lying on the flange.
>
> If I did the work again I'd cut the curve so it would be flat and the
> screws and nut plates would be on the bottom of the floor and nothing would
> be sticking up.
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=451571#451571
>
>
> Attachments:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_1885_158.jpg
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Gascolater position |
Hi David, thanks for the reply. I remember reading somewhere that the mono had
an 8 degree pitch. Looks like it doesn't matter too much anyway from the other
offline responses Iv had. Many thanks
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