Today's Message Index:
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1. 02:18 AM - Re: UK Insurance costs (Ian Cook)
2. 04:12 AM - Re: Trike Axle Diameter? (SPURPURA)
3. 05:21 AM - Re: Re: Wiring schedule? (Paul Mansfield)
4. 07:05 AM - Re: Re: Trike Axle Diameter? (david park)
5. 08:06 AM - Re: Re: Wiring schedule? (Rowland Carson)
6. 09:09 AM - Re: Re: Wiring schedule? (Robert Borger)
7. 12:03 PM - Spin characteristics (graeme bird)
8. 01:04 PM - Re: Spin characteristics (GRAHAM SINGLETON)
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| Subject: | UK Insurance costs |
David,
G-CBHI Sydney Charles at =C2=A31069 agreed hull value of =C2=A345k;
please note this includes both the XS and Motor glider wings and trailer
for MG and 3 named pilots.
Regards
Ian Cook
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk
Sent: 03 April 2016 11:58
Subject: Europa-List: UK Insurance costs
On behalf of the club committee I am hoping to put together data on
insurance costs in the UK. I shall plan to publish the details on the
forum, in a totally anonymous tabulated form. If enough of you respond
this should give us a good comparison of relative costs for trike vs
mono and provide a norm for a given hull value, allowing individuals to
see whether their insurer is offering a reasonable deal. It might also
form a basis for starting a Europa Club sponsored insurance deal.
What I would like PLEASE is for all UK based Europa owners to send me:
Current premium; insured hull value; insurer; plane configuration; hours
europa flying; single insured or group? I undertake to treat all such
info in total confidence and to pass on only anonymised details.
PLEASE REPLY TO MY PERSONAL EMAIL davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk
<mailto:davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk> or send anonymous info to my
address: Stone Mill, Woodford, Berkeley, GL13 9JU if you prefer.
Withs thanks in anticipation, David Joyce, GXSDJ
PS for what it is worth I am happy to provide my own details:
=C2=A31000, =C2=A342,000, Haywards, Mono, 1100hrs, single.
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| Subject: | Re: Trike Axle Diameter? |
I use a 3/4" x 12" steel rod inserted into the axle to pull the wheel off.
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I'D RATHER HAVE A BOTTLE IN FRONT OF ME THAN A FRONTAL LABOTAMY.
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| Subject: | Re: Wiring schedule? |
Works fine for me - PC, Windows 7 Pro, Chrome, Adobe Pro.
Result attach=C3=A9.
Rgds,
Paul M
Kit 383
XS Mono 912S
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[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rowland
Carson
Sent: 10 April 2016 18:55
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Wiring schedule?
--> <rowlandcarson@gmail.com>
On 2016-04-10, at 16:37, Clive Sutton <clive.maf@googlemail.com> wrote:
> Unfortunately i can't seem to see to view whole wirebook PDF - it
starts but then hangs on my PC.
Please can anyone else having trouble seeing or downloading the PDF of
the wirebook on my website build journal at:
http://www.rowlandcarson.org.uk/aviation/europa_435/wirebook.php
contact me direct at rowlandcarson@gmail.com.
I=99d like to know if there=99s something I need to fix for
the majority of viewers or if Clive=99s is an isolated problem.
in friendship
Rowland
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| Subject: | Re: Trike Axle Diameter? |
Yes i plan using 3/4" 1/16" wall 4130 tube and a 1" thick shaped ply to support
while wheel is off. Keeping light weight for touring.
Have not tried to check if tube strong enough yet.
Dave G-LDVO
Sent from my iPhone
> On 11 Apr 2016, at 12:11, SPURPURA <SPURPURA@aol.com> wrote:
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| Subject: | Re: Wiring schedule? |
On 2016-04-10, at 16:37, Clive Sutton <clive.maf@googlemail.com> wrote:
> Unfortunately i can't seem to see to view whole wirebook PDF - it starts but
then hangs on my PC.
Clive, and all those who responded - thanks for your time and trouble, and Im sorry
I gave you such bother! Its working fine today, but when I tried that page
myself yesterday it took forever to download. Several other pages of the website
were extremely slow to respond, and I couldnt even get ftp access to it at
one point. It appears that it was a temporary problem at my hosting company
(although another site they host was not affected).
It seems it was just bad luck that the site had a problem at the very time when
I pointed Clive to it. I do apologise for all the fuss!
in friendship
Rowland
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| Subject: | Re: Wiring schedule? |
Rowland,
Downloaded to my Mac this morning. Works just fine!
Blue skies & tailwinds,
Bob Borger
Europa XS Tri, Rotax 914, Airmaster C/S Prop (75 hrs).
Little Toot Sport Biplane, Lycoming Thunderbolt AEIO-320 EXP
3705 Lynchburg Dr.
Corinth, TX 76208-5331
Cel: 817-992-1117
rlborger@mac.com
On Apr 11, 2016, at 10:05 AM, Rowland Carson <rowlandcarson@gmail.com> wrote:
On 2016-04-10, at 16:37, Clive Sutton <clive.maf@googlemail.com> wrote:
> Unfortunately i can't seem to see to view whole wirebook PDF - it starts but
then hangs on my PC.
Clive, and all those who responded - thanks for your time and trouble, and Im sorry
I gave you such bother! Its working fine today, but when I tried that page
myself yesterday it took forever to download. Several other pages of the website
were extremely slow to respond, and I couldnt even get ftp access to it at
one point. It appears that it was a temporary problem at my hosting company
(although another site they host was not affected).
It seems it was just bad luck that the site had a problem at the very time when
I pointed Clive to it. I do apologise for all the fuss!
in friendship
Rowland
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| Subject: | Spin characteristics |
I've decided to get some aerobatic training just for fun and so have been reading
the Kershner basic aerobatic manual. The section on spinning talks about the
characteristics of some planes to go flat and recovery being dependent on various
hard to predict factors; altitude/pressure as well as plane design. Does
anyone spin the mono outside of UK and have any comment. While searching for
info, I have seen one or two accounts on here of accidental incipient spin. They
have made we think I should make sure my payload (e.g for permit flight test)
is better secured than dumped on the seat if a wing drop could send me inverted.
I was busy fitting my Smart Ass 3 at the strip the other day when my hangar neighbour
remarked that he dropped a wing and rolled out of the circuit on base leg
in a Brezzer after a 6 hour flight to an unfamiliar strip - lucky to survive
I should think. Easy to do though especially if you are turning across a stiff
breeze.
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Graeme Bird
G-UMPY
Mono Classic/XS FFW 912S/Woodcomp 3000/3W
Newby: 200 hours 4 years on the Mono
g(at)gdbmk.co.uk
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| Subject: | Re: Spin characteristics |
I have spun several early Classic Europas, during test flying for Permit to
Fly. The Classic can bite, clean the spin may be relatively benign but sev
eral had a vicious wing drop flaps down.Imho it may be due to inaccuracy of
the leading edge of the wing which is critical on Don's excellent airfoil.
We were not given accurate coordinates for the section with the plans but l
ater on they did become available. Sanding the wings to + or - .010"over th
e first 12" of chord does give a much more benign stall.Fitting the now man
datory stall strips also tames the stall.
Graham
On Monday, 11 April 2016, 20:06, graeme bird <graeme@gdbmk.co.uk> wrote
:
I've decided to get some aerobatic training just for fun and so have been r
eading the Kershner basic aerobatic manual. The section on spinning talks a
bout the characteristics of some planes to go flat and recovery being depen
dent on various hard to predict factors; altitude/pressure as well as plane
design. Does anyone spin the mono outside of UK and have any comment. Whil
e searching for info, I have seen one or two accounts on here of accidental
incipient spin. They have made we think I should make sure my payload (e.g
for permit flight test) is better secured than dumped on the seat if a win
g drop could send me inverted.
I was busy fitting my Smart Ass 3 at the strip the other day when my hangar
neighbour remarked that he dropped a wing and rolled out of the circuit on
base leg in a Brezzer after a 6 hour flight to an unfamiliar strip - lucky
to survive I should think. Easy to do though especially if you are turning
across a stiff breeze.
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Graeme Bird
G-UMPY
Mono Classic/XS FFW 912S/Woodcomp 3000/3W
Newby: 200 hours 4 years on the Mono
g(at)gdbmk.co.uk
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=454844#454844
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