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1. 12:56 AM - Re: Re : Monowheel Tyre choice? (JonSmith)
2. 10:04 AM - UK Insurance costs (davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk)
3. 10:37 AM - Engine Bay Heat Barrier (spcialeffects)
4. 12:00 PM - Re: Engine Bay Heat Barrier (Christoph Both)
5. 12:08 PM - Re: Engine Bay Heat Barrier (davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk)
6. 12:15 PM - Re: Engine Bay Heat Barrier (david park)
7. 01:14 PM - Re: Tailplane Slop (Roger Sheridan)
8. 02:37 PM - Re: UK Insurance costs (Tim Ward)
9. 10:08 PM - Mono trailer keeper pins (Fred Klein)
10. 11:29 PM - Re: Mono trailer keeper pins (Bryan Nortje)
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Subject: | Re: Re : Monowheel Tyre choice? |
Thanks John & Kelvin. I now have a replacement arranged thanks to help from the
forum. Cheers!
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G-TERN
Classic Mono
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Subject: | UK Insurance costs |
Very many thanks to the many folk who answered my request for insurance
data. I attach two graphs, the first showing a comparison between Mon &
Trike for those insured with Traffords, who insure something over 3/4 of
the respondents, and the second showing other firm's position in
relation to the same Traffords average line which appears in the first
graph. A number of interesting points emerge:
1. It is apparent that there is no clear difference between mono and
trike insurance rates in the UK, as far as Traffords are concerned. This
point is confirmed by a conversation that one of the committee had with
Visicover, who said that the accident rates are no different and that
they do not alter rates for each type. This should go some way to negate
the view that the Mono is an accident waiting to happen, although as
with so many things there is an element of self selection here and the
experience and piloting skills of the two groups may not be the same!
2. In the second graph there is a clear suggestion that Visicover offer
appreciably lower rates than Traffords, (by 150 pounds or so) and this
is confirmed by a couple of respondents who had had quotes from both,
with Visicover being correspondingly cheaper. There is one anomalous
Visicover cost of 1180 pounds for 30k cover, but I guess there was
something about that proposal that left Visicover deciding they would
rather not have it on their books! Six premiums from Haywards feature as
well as one from Jennings and one from Sydney Charles. These numbers are
too small to make any very firm conclusions, but there is certainly a
bit of a suggestion that Haywards may be a bit more expensive than
Traffords.
3. The scatter in the rates of course relates to such things a
experience, instructor status etc, but those who find their premiums
well away from the mean line may want to seek alternative quotes.
4. Finally four respondents insured their planes third party & legal
requirements only and paid premiums in the 300-400 pound range. There is
certainly an argument that if you can afford to contemplate the cost of
a write off then there is no point in comprehensive insurance, as
insurance companies are of course making a profit out of our premiums!
Happy landings, David Joyce, GXSDJ
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Subject: | Engine Bay Heat Barrier |
Who among you have fitted some sort of silver reflective mateiral to the firewall
to reduce heat transferring into the cabin? Was it worth doing? Does it reduce
cabin temperate much? Could you tell the difference between one fitted with
and one fitted without it?
iv had a look around and there seems to be quite a few different types available
if anyone has used this stuff could you please post a link to where you
got it (in the UK)
Many thanks Frank X
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Subject: | Re: Engine Bay Heat Barrier |
The heat barrier made a difference, especially behind the large instrument
panel. One can feel the difference between the warm footwells, not
insulated and the rest of the exposed firewall. Well worth installing to
keep the panel cool in the summer!
I used a lightweight product with silver foil on one side backed by a thin
layer of fibreglass from a car racing store. Just glues on and easy to
cut. Very effective also to shield the cowling from the exhaust pipes. No
blisters yet!
Christoph Bothy
#223 Classic 912S Woodcomp SR3000/2 250+ hrs
On 2016-04-13, 2:35 PM, "owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com on behalf
of spcialeffects" <owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com on behalf of
spcialeffects@aol.com> wrote:
>
>Who among you have fitted some sort of silver reflective mateiral to the
>firewall to reduce heat transferring into the cabin? Was it worth doing?
>Does it reduce cabin temperate much? Could you tell the difference
>between one fitted with and one fitted without it?
> iv had a look around and there seems to be quite a few different
>types available if anyone has used this stuff could you please post a
>link to where you got it (in the UK)
>
>Many thanks Frank X
>
>
>Read this topic online here:
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>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=454959#454959
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Subject: | Re: Engine Bay Heat Barrier |
Frank, Flying in the UK without any sort of heat reflectivr barrier, I
recall many more occasions when I have welcomed the modest amount of
warmth coming through the firewall to warm my feet, than occasions when
I felt too hot - in fact the only time I remember feeling significantly
too hot was in the middle of Spain in the middle of a freak heatwave.
There is also the point that decreasing heat loss from the engine
compartment will aggravate cooling issues (I guess only marginally),
should you find, as many do, that cooling in hot weather is an issue.
Regards, David Joyce, GXSDJ
On 2016-04-13 18:35, spcialeffects wrote:
>
> Who among you have fitted some sort of silver reflective mateiral to the firewall
to reduce heat transferring into the cabin? Was it worth doing? Does it reduce
cabin temperate much? Could you tell the difference between one fitted with
and one fitted without it?
> iv had a look around and there seems to be quite a few different types available
if anyone has used this stuff could you please post a link to where you got
it (in the UK)
>
> Many thanks Frank X
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=454959#454959 [1]
>
Links:
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[1] http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=454959#454959
[2] http://www.buildersbooks.com
[3] http://www.matronics.com/contribution
[4] http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List
[5] http://forums.matronics.com
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Subject: | Re: Engine Bay Heat Barrier |
Demon tweeks also hogh temp silicone to bond it with.
Dave G-LDVO
Sent from my iPhone
> On 13 Apr 2016, at 18:35, spcialeffects <spcialeffects@aol.com> wrote:
>
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> Who among you have fitted some sort of silver reflective mateiral to the firewall
to reduce heat transferring into the cabin? Was it worth doing? Does it reduce
cabin temperate much? Could you tell the difference between one fitted with
and one fitted without it?
> iv had a look around and there seems to be quite a few different types available
if anyone has used this stuff could you please post a link to where you
got it (in the UK)
>
> Many thanks Frank X
>
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> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=454959#454959
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Subject: | Re: Tailplane Slop |
Hi Donald,
Did you torque up to 200?
Seems a bit high.
Regards,
Roger
> On 10 Apr 2016, at 18:51, Donald Cameron <fireflier@btinternet.com>
wrote:
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> Hi Roger
>
> I installed this mod when i built my aircraft, to me this was the best
solution for removing the slop in the tail planes.
>
> Like you I would recommend this to others.
>
> I'm just about to be involved with another build and this mod will
also be incorporated into this other aircraft.
>
> Kind regards
> Donald
> G-PUPY.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 10 Apr 2016, at 18:43, Roger Sheridan <rogersheridan@mac.com
<mailto:rogersheridan@mac.com>> wrote:
>
>> In case anyone else is experiencing tailplane play, I have just
completed & can recommend LAA mod 11969.
>>
>>
http://www.theeuropaclub.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/11969-TTpins.pdf
<http://www.theeuropaclub.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/11969-TTpins.pdf>
>>
>> It replaces the pins with AN4 bolts, cuddle washers outside & a
curved strip with anchor nuts on the inside.
>>
>> Ian Rickard compiled a list of over a dozen fixes & I felt this was
the best choice for me.
>>
>> Many thanks to him & also Richard Collings the designer.
>>
>> If anybody wishes to discus the nitty gritty, please give me a call.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Roger
>>
>> 07540 854867
>>
>> <IMG_7763.jpeg>
>> <IMG_7768.jpeg>
>>
>> <IMG_7767.jpeg>
>>
>>
http://www.theeuropaclub.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/11969-TTpins.pdf
<http://www.theeuropaclub.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/11969-TTpins.pdf>
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Subject: | Re: UK Insurance costs |
Hi David,
Thank you for that comparison David, very interesting to see the Mono
v=99s Trike.
I am with Traffords here in NZ and only insure for Third Party Liability
Limited to $NZ1,000,000 which is 486,980 Pounds.
Premium is $NZ110 which is 53.56 Pounds.
My philosophy is that I am the only one who can fix the hull; would I be
alive to do it; only doing 40 hours a year;
always in the back of my mind I have no insurance so I have to maintain
and fly the aircraft well; given me 13 years
of good service and has already saved me $NZ46800 = Pounds 22,800.
I did fully insure it for the first year for Flight Testing and gaining
experience.
Comments?
Kind regards,
Tim
Tim Ward,
12 Waiwetu Street,
Fendalton,
Christchurch 8052
New Zealand
Ph; 03 3515166
Mob; 0210640221
email; ward.t@xtra.co.nz
From: davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2016 5:02 AM
Subject: Europa-List: UK Insurance costs
Very many thanks to the many folk who answered my request for insurance
data. I attach two graphs, the first showing a comparison between Mon &
Trike for those insured with Traffords, who insure something over 3/4 of
the respondents, and the second showing other firm's position in
relation to the same Traffords average line which appears in the first
graph. A number of interesting points emerge:
1. It is apparent that there is no clear difference between mono and
trike insurance rates in the UK, as far as Traffords are concerned. This
point is confirmed by a conversation that one of the committee had with
Visicover, who said that the accident rates are no different and that
they do not alter rates for each type. This should go some way to negate
the view that the Mono is an accident waiting to happen, although as
with so many things there is an element of self selection here and the
experience and piloting skills of the two groups may not be the same!
2. In the second graph there is a clear suggestion that Visicover offer
appreciably lower rates than Traffords, (by 150 pounds or so) and this
is confirmed by a couple of respondents who had had quotes from both,
with Visicover being correspondingly cheaper. There is one anomalous
Visicover cost of 1180 pounds for 30k cover, but I guess there was
something about that proposal that left Visicover deciding they would
rather not have it on their books! Six premiums from Haywards feature as
well as one from Jennings and one from Sydney Charles. These numbers are
too small to make any very firm conclusions, but there is certainly a
bit of a suggestion that Haywards may be a bit more expensive than
Traffords.
3. The scatter in the rates of course relates to such things a
experience, instructor status etc, but those who find their premiums
well away from the mean line may want to seek alternative quotes.
4. Finally four respondents insured their planes third party & legal
requirements only and paid premiums in the 300-400 pound range. There is
certainly an argument that if you can afford to contemplate the cost of
a write off then there is no point in comprehensive insurance, as
insurance companies are of course making a profit out of our premiums!
Happy landings, David Joyce, GXSDJ
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Subject: | Mono trailer keeper pins |
Can anyone suggest a source for those pins with the lovely little crescent-spring-loaded
keepers which come with the factory-built mono trailer?
Im afraid Ive lost onethey are the pins which secure the 2 rods which keep the
main wheel ramp in the up position.
I fear that the design of these pins is peculiar to a very British way of going
about things and have never seen them on the west side of the pond.
Fred
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Subject: | Re: Mono trailer keeper pins |
Hi Fred
Have a look at "Pip" pins. They are available in various lengths and in metric
and non metric sizes.
Cheers
Bryan
Sent from my iPhone
> On 14 Apr 2016, at 06:07, Fred Klein <fklein@orcasonline.com> wrote:
>
>
> Can anyone suggest a source for those pins with the lovely little crescent-spring-loaded
keepers which come with the factory-built mono trailer?
>
> Im afraid Ive lost onethey are the pins which secure the 2 rods which keep the
main wheel ramp in the up position.
>
> I fear that the design of these pins is peculiar to a very British way of going
about things and have never seen them on the west side of the pond.
>
> Fred
>
>
>
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