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1. 02:05 AM - Tri-gear wheel source? (Rick Moss)
2. 02:15 AM - Re: UK Insurance costs (flyingphil2)
3. 04:51 AM - Re: Tri-gear wheel source? (nigel_graham@m-tecque.co.uk)
4. 06:13 AM - UK Insurance costs (davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk)
5. 06:15 AM - UK Insurance costs -2 (davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk)
6. 06:45 AM - Aileron link tube (roddyeuropa@aol.com)
7. 07:07 AM - Re: Engine Bay Heat Barrier (William Daniell)
8. 09:08 AM - Re: Engine Bay Heat Barrier (spcialeffects)
9. 09:24 AM - FW: Engine Bay Heat Barrier (Christoph Both)
10. 09:52 AM - Re: FW: Engine Bay Heat Barrier (William Daniell)
11. 02:05 PM - Re: Mono trailer keeper pins (Paul Mansfield)
12. 03:20 PM - Re: UK Insurance costs (Paul Mansfield)
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Subject: | Tri-gear wheel source? |
Hi all,
Maintenance has just revealed a crack in one of the disk lugs of a main wheel
on my Trigear. My preference would be to buy one from Europa, but they're closed
for 2 weeks; does anybody know the Matco part details, as I believe they make
them? I don't want to be grounded for that long!
Thanks,
Rick
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Subject: | Re: UK Insurance costs |
It's early days yet but I only have good things to say about Visicover.
It's all internet based and so I was able to spend a while playing tunes with the
cover until I reached a premium I was happy with (just as you do when you get
your car insurance). Everything is very transparent and clear compared to
the other situation of having to ask brokers numerous questions to clarify details.
At my time of application, I had 1 hour experience on type and the Visicover
quote came in much lower than every other UK insurance provider.
Hopefully I'll never need to test how good they are at paying out for losses but
my research at the time showed no cause for concern based on comments from others.
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Subject: | Re: Tri-gear wheel source? |
I've attached a useful Matco publication to help you identify your parts.
You are in luck as it would appear that Matco will supply the brake half
of the wheel individually:
http://www.matcomfg.com/WHLW51125DRILLED-idv-3464-44.html
Nigel
On 14/04/2016 10:04, Rick Moss wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> Maintenance has just revealed a crack in one of the disk lugs of a main wheel
on my Trigear. My preference would be to buy one from Europa, but they're closed
for 2 weeks; does anybody know the Matco part details, as I believe they
make them? I don't want to be grounded for that long!
>
> Thanks,
>
> Rick
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=455010#455010
>
>
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Subject: | UK Insurance costs |
It seems that some folk got the text of my posting about insurance
without the graphs and on the assumption that the total size exceeded
their limit I am attaching them one at a time, the first herewith David
Joyce, GXSDJ
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Subject: | UK Insurance costs -2 |
2nd graph herewith. David Joyce
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Subject: | Aileron link tube |
I have been recommended to replace my aileron link rods, as there is a bit of surface
corrosion on them. Does anyone know a source of the 1 inch Aluminium tubing
(spec 6061-T6, wall thickness .028 inch.) in the UK?
LAS (aka aircraft spruce) have .035 wall thickness listed on their site. My first
call was Europa parts, but they are on holiday until 28th April.
Thanks
Roddy Kesterton
G-IKRK
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Subject: | Re: Engine Bay Heat Barrier |
Christophe
can you send a link to the product
thanks
Will
William Daniell
LONGPORT
+57 310 295 0744
On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 1:59 PM, Christoph Both <christoph.both@acadiau.ca>
wrote:
> christoph.both@acadiau.ca>
>
> The heat barrier made a difference, especially behind the large instrument
> panel. One can feel the difference between the warm footwells, not
> insulated and the rest of the exposed firewall. Well worth installing to
> keep the panel cool in the summer!
> I used a lightweight product with silver foil on one side backed by a thin
> layer of fibreglass from a car racing store. Just glues on and easy to
> cut. Very effective also to shield the cowling from the exhaust pipes. No
> blisters yet!
> Christoph Bothy
> #223 Classic 912S Woodcomp SR3000/2 250+ hrs
>
> On 2016-04-13, 2:35 PM, "owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com on behalf
> of spcialeffects" <owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com on behalf of
> spcialeffects@aol.com> wrote:
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> >Who among you have fitted some sort of silver reflective mateiral to the
> >firewall to reduce heat transferring into the cabin? Was it worth doing?
> >Does it reduce cabin temperate much? Could you tell the difference
> >between one fitted with and one fitted without it?
> > iv had a look around and there seems to be quite a few different
> >types available if anyone has used this stuff could you please post a
> >link to where you got it (in the UK)
> >
> >Many thanks Frank X
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> >http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=454959#454959
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Subject: | Re: Engine Bay Heat Barrier |
Hey Christoph, a link would be great.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=455022#455022
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Subject: | Engine Bay Heat Barrier |
Hi Will,
I used the heat barrier product with over silica backed stick on. Glue is g
ood up to 300F, metal surface up to 2000F. I used this older product, they
now have a 24K new product I am not familiar with.
Stuck it onto the firewall at all not critical sections 2012. Still sticks
on after 250 hours.
http://www.thermotec.com<http://www.thermotec.com/>
Critical sections were covered with an Aircraft Spruce both sides stainless
steel backed product:
Firewall-2000 Product# 05-00948 which I used to also cover the entire motor
mount cavity up to the firewall. Make sure you order a tube of the 2000F f
ire retardant "silicone=94 with it to seal all the edges. I riveted the she
et with mounting washers to the firewall. This way the entire footwell back
to the tunnel is being protected for my TRI. Bud suggested this and its go
od extra insurance.
Christoph
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Subject: | Re: Engine Bay Heat Barrier |
Thanks
Will
William Daniell
LONGPORT
+57 310 295 0744
On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 11:23 AM, Christoph Both <christoph.both@acadiau.ca
>
wrote:
> Hi Will,
> I used the heat barrier product with over silica backed stick on. Glue is
> good up to 300F, metal surface up to 2000F. I used this older product, th
ey
> now have a 24K new product I am not familiar with.
> Stuck it onto the firewall at all not critical sections 2012. Still stick
s
> on after 250 hours.
> http://www.thermotec.com
> Critical sections were covered with an Aircraft Spruce both sides
> stainless steel backed product:
> Firewall-2000 Product# 05-00948 which I used to also cover the entire
> motor mount cavity up to the firewall. Make sure you order a tube of the
> 2000F fire retardant "silicone=9D with it to seal all the edges. I
riveted
> the sheet with mounting washers to the firewall. This way the entire
> footwell back to the tunnel is being protected for my TRI. Bud suggested
> this and its good extra insurance.
> Christoph
>
>
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Subject: | Mono trailer keeper pins |
Hi Fred,
These any good?
http://www.specialty-fasteners.co.uk/products/quick-release-fasteners/quick-release-pins/item/wire-lock-pins
HTH,
Paul M
XS Mono 912S
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Fred Klein
Sent: 14 April 2016 06:08
Subject: Europa-List: Mono trailer keeper pins
Can anyone suggest a source for those pins with the lovely little crescent-spring-loaded
keepers which come with the factory-built mono trailer?
Im afraid Ive lost onethey are the pins which secure the 2 rods which keep the
main wheel ramp in the up position.
I fear that the design of these pins is peculiar to a very British way of going
about things and have never seen them on the west side of the pond.
Fred
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Subject: | UK Insurance costs |
Great work David, thanks!
I transferred the data into a spreadsheet so I could compare any quotes
I get; attached here in case others may find this useful...
See the second tab, labelled =98Comparison=99, where you can
add your own new quotes and see how they compare. Needs Excel or another
spreadsheet program (sic) to view/edit.
HTH,
Paul M
XS Mono 912S
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk
Sent: 13 April 2016 18:02
Subject: Europa-List: UK Insurance costs
Very many thanks to the many folk who answered my request for insurance
data. I attach two graphs, the first showing a comparison between Mon &
Trike for those insured with Traffords, who insure something over 3/4 of
the respondents, and the second showing other firm's position in
relation to the same Traffords average line which appears in the first
graph. A number of interesting points emerge:
1. It is apparent that there is no clear difference between mono and
trike insurance rates in the UK, as far as Traffords are concerned. This
point is confirmed by a conversation that one of the committee had with
Visicover, who said that the accident rates are no different and that
they do not alter rates for each type. This should go some way to negate
the view that the Mono is an accident waiting to happen, although as
with so many things there is an element of self selection here and the
experience and piloting skills of the two groups may not be the same!
2. In the second graph there is a clear suggestion that Visicover offer
appreciably lower rates than Traffords, (by 150 pounds or so) and this
is confirmed by a couple of respondents who had had quotes from both,
with Visicover being correspondingly cheaper. There is one anomalous
Visicover cost of 1180 pounds for 30k cover, but I guess there was
something about that proposal that left Visicover deciding they would
rather not have it on their books! Six premiums from Haywards feature as
well as one from Jennings and one from Sydney Charles. These numbers are
too small to make any very firm conclusions, but there is certainly a
bit of a suggestion that Haywards may be a bit more expensive than
Traffords.
3. The scatter in the rates of course relates to such things a
experience, instructor status etc, but those who find their premiums
well away from the mean line may want to seek alternative quotes.
4. Finally four respondents insured their planes third party & legal
requirements only and paid premiums in the 300-400 pound range. There is
certainly an argument that if you can afford to contemplate the cost of
a write off then there is no point in comprehensive insurance, as
insurance companies are of course making a profit out of our premiums!
Happy landings, David Joyce, GXSDJ
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