---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 04/21/16: 8 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:45 AM - Avionics heat (Bob Hitchcock) 2. 02:09 AM - Re: naca inlets (tennant) 3. 04:22 AM - Re: Re: naca inlets (Rowland Carson) 4. 12:36 PM - Re: TruTrak Gemini ADI (graeme bird) 5. 12:46 PM - Re: Spin characteristics (graeme bird) 6. 02:15 PM - Re: Re: Spin characteristics (Robert Borger) 7. 03:06 PM - Re: Avionics heat (Gary Leinberger) 8. 04:14 PM - Fly-In, June 3-5 at Triple Tree, SC (h&jeuropa) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:45:09 AM PST US From: Bob Hitchcock Subject: Europa-List: Avionics heat Hi Bob, David and Duncan Really good advice will now contemplate. Many thanks Regards Bob Mono XS ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 02:09:50 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: naca inlets From: "tennant" Hi Rowland, All These new fangled Gadgets!! About 20 years ago I just shaped some foam to naca shape. I got a set of Ford Fiesta side vent grills from a scrap Yard and laminated them in the recommended place. Perfect, and lots of air, even in a steep climb. Barry -------- Barry Tennant D-EHBT At EDLM - Germany Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=455282#455282 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 04:22:09 AM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: naca inlets From: Rowland Carson On 2016-04-21, at 10:09, tennant wrote: > All These new fangled Gadgets!! > About 20 years ago I just shaped some foam to naca shape. I got a set of Ford Fiesta side vent grills from a scrap Yard and laminated them in the recommended place. Perfect, and lots of air, even in a steep climb. Barry - thanks for that thought - I was wondering about making my own duct - the one supplied is only a first-order approximation to the ideal NACA shape. in friendship Rowland | Rowland Carson ... that's Rowland with a 'w' ... | http://www.rowlandcarson.org.uk | Skype, Twitter: rowland_carson Facebook: Rowland Carson | pictures: http://picasaweb.google.com/rowlandcarson ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 12:36:46 PM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: TruTrak Gemini ADI From: "graeme bird" I have just fitted and tested out the Gemini AP which uses the same technology. I was sceptical about how it would be compared to steam but have been very impressed. I have used it for simulated IMC (holds and let downs and general) and its very usable. -------- Graeme Bird G-UMPY Mono Classic/XS FFW 912S/Woodcomp 3000/3W Newby: 200 hours 4 years on the Mono g(at)gdbmk.co.uk Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=455304#455304 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 12:46:49 PM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: Spin characteristics From: "graeme bird" I spent a couple of hours at EGBT in their slingsby T67 -160 , remarkably similar to the Europa in some ways. I flew stalls, spins, wing overs, aileron rolls and loops. Never really departed from straight and level before apart from the odd recovery from an unusual attitude. Really enjoyed it, not queasy at all. Further session booked. Its going to be oh so tempting though when back in the Europa. I am sure the loop was only a couple of G :-) -------- Graeme Bird G-UMPY Mono Classic/XS FFW 912S/Woodcomp 3000/3W Newby: 200 hours 4 years on the Mono g(at)gdbmk.co.uk Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=455305#455305 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 02:15:40 PM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Spin characteristics From: Robert Borger Graeme, Be careful with that stuff! It can be quite habit forming. Even addictive! Next thing you know youll be building a Little Toot Sport Biplane. Blue skies & tailwinds, Bob Borger Europa XS Tri, Rotax 914, Airmaster C/S Prop (75 hrs). Little Toot Sport Biplane, Lycoming Thunderbolt AEIO-320 EXP 3705 Lynchburg Dr. Corinth, TX 76208-5331 Cel: 817-992-1117 rlborger@mac.com On Apr 21, 2016, at 2:44 PM, graeme bird wrote: I spent a couple of hours at EGBT in their slingsby T67 -160 , remarkably similar to the Europa in some ways. I flew stalls, spins, wing overs, aileron rolls and loops. Never really departed from straight and level before apart from the odd recovery from an unusual attitude. Really enjoyed it, not queasy at all. Further session booked. Its going to be oh so tempting though when back in the Europa. I am sure the loop was only a couple of G :-) -------- Graeme Bird G-UMPY Mono Classic/XS FFW 912S/Woodcomp 3000/3W Newby: 200 hours 4 years on the Mono g(at)gdbmk.co.uk ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 03:06:48 PM PST US From: Gary Leinberger Subject: Re: Europa-List: Avionics heat In the attached picture you can see my panel. I (with the terrific help of Bud Yerly of Custom Flight) made the panel easily removable - takes about 1 0 minutes to remove the entire panel. This has paid off some many times, an d makes doing IFR 2 year checks very easy if the inspector wants to check e verything. My plane is IFR with a Garmin 430W, a 330 GTX Mode S transponder, a Grand R apids HX, an engine monitor, a Tru-Trax 2 axis autopilot, and several steam gauges. Yes, it all fits but it is tight. And it is heavy - 42 lbs. for th e panel. And it produces a great deal of heat. So we put in a three hose fa n drawing air from the passenger foot well, and two exhaust fans - original two inch (as shown) but now one is a 4 inch fan. The top fans are on a the rmostat and a timer, running off the secondary battery. When I land, if the temps are up in the panel, the fan goes on for about 45 minutes. The three hoses from the fan go to the HX, 430W, and the EXP buss box (on t he right side of picture with all the plugs over top of it). The box was ma de to improve cooling and keep stray wires or dropped tools from causing sh orts in the EXP buss). The two hoses - to the Garmin and to the HX are not in the picture. The secondary battery also runs the radio and trim and autopilot through a "soaring" buss for use when the engine is off for soaring (I have the glide r wings also), and can be used for clearance delivery on the ground so you don't have to run the engine (and possibly overheat) or wear the main batte ry down when getting your clearance. I do have the top mounted, belt driven 45 amp alternator as well as the standard 20 amp Rotax alternator. Even if I lose the HX or the main battery I still have the Tru-Trax to keep wings level and to get heading. The steam gauges give me altitude, speed and cl imb/descend rate. And in extremis the Foreflight gives me an additional bac kup. I do have a spare handheld ratio with its own antenna with a connection to the secondary battery if I lose the Garmin. It is not tied into the interco m system so I have to plug it into my headset if I want to use it. After getting the system up and running I have had no problems keeping the heat down behind the panel. I did originally have panel heat problems when doing my flying off time in Florida in the summer - outside temps at altitu de above 95 degrees F. Good luck. I think the work necessary to make the panel removable is worth it. I would also recommend making the connections to the engine easy to dis connect so you don't have to cut anything when the engine needs to be remov ed. The system works great and the Europa is great IFR platform, except I could occasionally use another radio - but no room. Just takes some planning. Gary Leinberger ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 04:14:42 PM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Fly-In, June 3-5 at Triple Tree, SC From: "h&jeuropa" Europas to Gather at Triple Tree Aerodrome (SC00) Woodruff, SC June 3-5, 2016 Triple Tree is possibly the best grass strip in the US. At 7000 x 400 ft of golf course quality turf, it is renowned for being smooth. As a private field, landing is by permission only and occurs just a few times a year. There are camping sites with restrooms and showers, a fishing lake, gazebos, hiking trails through the woods and catered meals. Learn more about Triple Tree here: http://www.tripletreeaerodrome.com/index.php Avoid the crowds at the annual Triple Tree Fly-In this fall, and join us at the RAF (Recreational Aviation Foundation) fly-in this June. There are activities and fly outs planned, and lots of just looking at and talking about airplanes. And you dont even have to bring an airplane, there is room for motor homes or campers or you can get a room in town. You do not have to be a member of RAF, but you do need to pre-register. Full details are here: http://theraf.org/civicrm/event/info?id=230&reset=1 We are planning to bring our flying dog Jethro and leave Triple Tree Sunday afternoon and fly to Ocracoke, NC, W95 for a couple of days. Everyone we talk to says it is a nice laid back place, just our speed! We hope you can join us there, too. 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