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Wed 05/04/16


Total Messages Posted: 11



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     1. 02:54 AM - ARPLAST PV50  (Paul Hawkins)
     2. 06:58 AM - Le Touquet Trip (davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk)
     3. 07:10 AM - Re: Le Touquet Trip (James Kelly)
     4. 07:22 AM - Re: Le Touquet Trip (dpy01)
     5. 08:11 AM - Re: Le Touquet Trip (davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk)
     6. 08:13 AM - Re: Le Touquet Trip (davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk)
     7. 08:27 AM - fuel vent query (Rowland Carson)
     8. 12:17 PM - Southco Fasteners (spcialeffects)
     9. 02:03 PM - Re: Southco Fasteners (Jerry Rehn)
    10. 03:07 PM - Re: fuel vent query (Bud Yerly)
    11. 05:00 PM - Re: Southco Fasteners (Robert Borger)
 
 
 


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    Time: 02:54:14 AM PST US
    From: Paul Hawkins <pwhawkinsbuilders@hotmail.com>
    Subject: ARPLAST PV50
    Hi chaps I need to replace the motor on my PV50 prop Where can I buy a new motor ? or has anyone got one they no longer need which I could buy. Cheers Paul G-ROOV 914 Sent from my iPad


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    Time: 06:58:23 AM PST US
    From: davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk
    Subject: Le Touquet Trip
    Just a reminder that the EUROPA CLUB/GLOUCESTER STRUT LE TOUQUET TRIP is due to take place on SAT 21 MAY. This is a chance for seasoned pilots to meet up over a cracking sea food lunch and also for newcomers to cross channel flying to have all the help and support they need to make that first crossing. Anyone interested please contact me and I will send an updated 2016 Briefing sheet. Regards, David Joyce, GXSDJ


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    Time: 07:10:23 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Le Touquet Trip
    From: James Kelly <europajimkelly@gmail.com>
    Hi David, I'm interested in the Le Touquet trip would you please forward info. Best wishes Jim Kelly On Wed, May 4, 2016 at 2:56 PM, <davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk> wrote: > Just a reminder that the* Europa Club/Gloucester Strut Le Touquet Trip* > is due to take place on *Sat 21 May*. This is a chance for seasoned > pilots to meet up over a cracking sea food lunch and also for newcomers to > cross channel flying to have all the help and support they need to make > that first crossing. Anyone interested please contact me and I will send an > updated 2016 Briefing sheet. > > Regards, David Joyce, GXSDJ > >


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    Time: 07:22:44 AM PST US
    From: dpy01 <alanb@dpy01.co.uk>
    Subject: Re: Le Touquet Trip
    I'm interested please. Alan Burrill G- OBJT Sent from my iPhone > On 4 May 2016, at 14:56, davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk wrote: > > Just a reminder that the Europa Club/Gloucester Strut Le Touquet Trip is d ue to take place on Sat 21 May. This is a chance for seasoned pilots to meet up over a cracking sea food lunch and also for newcomers to cross channel f lying to have all the help and support they need to make that first crossing . Anyone interested please contact me and I will send an updated 2016 Briefi ng sheet. > > Regards, David Joyce, GXSDJ > > > >


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    Time: 08:11:53 AM PST US
    From: davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk
    Subject: Re: Le Touquet Trip
    Alan, Briefing herewith. Hope to see you there. David On 2016-05-04 15:22, dpy01 wrote: > I'm interested please. > > Alan Burrill > G- OBJT > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 4 May 2016, at 14:56, davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk wrote: > >> Just a reminder that the EUROPA CLUB/GLOUCESTER STRUT LE TOUQUET TRIP is due to take place on SAT 21 MAY. This is a chance for seasoned pilots to meet up over a cracking sea food lunch and also for newcomers to cross channel flying to have all the help and support they need to make that first crossing. Anyone interested please contact me and I will send an updated 2016 Briefing sheet. >> >> Regards, David Joyce, GXSDJ


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    Time: 08:13:11 AM PST US
    From: davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk
    Subject: Re: Le Touquet Trip
    Jim, Herewith info. Hope to see you there, seasoned traveller that you are now! david On 2016-05-04 15:09, James Kelly wrote: > Hi David, > I'm interested in the Le Touquet trip would you please forward info. > Best wishes > Jim Kelly > > On Wed, May 4, 2016 at 2:56 PM, <davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk> wrote: > >> Just a reminder that the EUROPA CLUB/GLOUCESTER STRUT LE TOUQUET TRIP is due to take place on SAT 21 MAY. This is a chance for seasoned pilots to meet up over a cracking sea food lunch and also for newcomers to cross channel flying to have all the help and support they need to make that first crossing. Anyone interested please contact me and I will send an updated 2016 Briefing sheet. >> >> Regards, David Joyce, GXSDJ


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    Time: 08:27:05 AM PST US
    From: Rowland Carson <rowlandcarson@gmail.com>
    Subject: fuel vent query
    I=99m installing the type of fuel vent described by Graham Singleton and others, where the vent pipe goes up to a syphon break at the top of the F18 filler neck then down to reach atmospheric pressure underneath the fuselage. I=99m using 1/4=9D soft aluminium pipe with AN fittings. It=99s probably not very important, but I wondered if there was any conventional wisdom on the ideal shape for the bottom end of the vent pipe. I believe I=99ve seen vents that are chamfered like A & B in the diagram attached below, but am not sure if that would create an undesirable increase (A) or decrease (B) pressure in the vent pipe. It seems desirable (to prevent accidental damage etc) that the vent should protrude as little as possible below the fuselage, so the diagrams show an exaggerated length for clarity. Instead of a straight cut pipe as at C, would there be any downside to terminating the pipe in an AN bulkhead fitting with the outer end cut off, to make it look rather like a large static port? This seems the most robust and elegant way to do it, but I=99m concerned that it may cause problems I hadn=99t thought of. Anyone have any relevant experience or knowledge of the shapes of fuel vents? in friendship Rowland | Rowland Carson ... that's Rowland with a 'w' ... | <rowlandcarson@gmail.com> http://www.rowlandcarson.org.uk | Skype, Twitter: rowland_carson Facebook: Rowland Carson | pictures: http://picasaweb.google.com/rowlandcarson


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    Time: 12:17:21 PM PST US
    Subject: Southco Fasteners
    From: "spcialeffects" <spcialeffects@aol.com>
    Hi all. I have just moved on to fitting my cowlings and wanted to use the Europa club mod where the cowlings are secured together with the Southco quarter turn fasteners........however I contacted LASaero and gave them part number : 82-14-260-20 and was told that they are unable to supply them. Then I tried the Southco website, contacted their authorised dealer and was told that particular part number is a special order only and their minimum order is 5000! So my question is does anyone know where I can get these fasteners from OR doe's anyone have some (30 or so) that they didn't use and want to sell? Many thanks Frank Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=455874#455874 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/image_319.jpeg


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    Time: 02:03:06 PM PST US
    From: Jerry Rehn <rehn@rockisland.com>
    Subject: Re: Southco Fasteners
    Try Aircraftspruce, they have a large assortment of Southco fasteners, perhaps you can find it or a substitute that will work. Jerry Sent from my iPad > On May 4, 2016, at 12:16 PM, spcialeffects <spcialeffects@aol.com> wrote: > > > Hi all. I have just moved on to fitting my cowlings and wanted to use the Europa club mod where the cowlings are secured together with the Southco quarter turn fasteners........however I contacted LASaero and gave them part number : 82-14-260-20 and was told that they are unable to supply them. Then I tried the Southco website, contacted their authorised dealer and was told that particular part number is a special order only and their minimum order is 5000! So my question is does anyone know where I can get these fasteners from OR doe's anyone have some (30 or so) that they didn't use and want to sell? > > Many thanks Frank > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=455874#455874 > > > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/image_319.jpeg > > > > > > >


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    Time: 03:07:58 PM PST US
    From: "Bud Yerly" <budyerly@msn.com>
    Subject: Re: fuel vent query
    Rowland, For the last 10 years I=99ve been putting the vent on the bottom. I use 1/4 inch OD tube (although others have gone with larger) and extended the tube below the fuselage some two inches minimum to be in clean air bent forward. Typically on the Starboard side and use a break in the cobra neck. Drill the two holes at the base of the tube as in the Europa top mounts should mud or grass get flung into the tip. A clogged vent will starve the engine eventually as the vacuum of the fuel being used will be greater than the pumps capability to draw fuel... Find a convenient place in the trigear well or on a mono it can be behind the bulkhead or glued to the wood supports, being sure to clear the flaps. I put it on the forward side of the bulkhead and glassed and floxed it in. Just scuff the tube and install. It is very rugged and light. I made my tube from stainless. It is a bit hard to drill, but very stiff and strong. Use either rubber, tygon or polyurethane tubing with appropriate clamps. On my website is how I plumb the unit which is similar to Grahams. I don=99t use AN fittings as it is a vent system and not worth the fittings. See photo attached and www.customflightcreations.com and hit the techniques tab. Regards, Bud Yerly From: Rowland Carson Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2016 11:26 AM Subject: Europa-List: fuel vent query I=99m installing the type of fuel vent described by Graham Singleton and others, where the vent pipe goes up to a syphon break at the top of the F18 filler neck then down to reach atmospheric pressure underneath the fuselage. I=99m using 1/4=9D soft aluminium pipe with AN fittings. It=99s probably not very important, but I wondered if there was any conventional wisdom on the ideal shape for the bottom end of the vent pipe. I believe I=99ve seen vents that are chamfered like A & B in the diagram attached below, but am not sure if that would create an undesirable increase (A) or decrease (B) pressure in the vent pipe. It seems desirable (to prevent accidental damage etc) that the vent should protrude as little as possible below the fuselage, so the diagrams show an exaggerated length for clarity. Instead of a straight cut pipe as at C, would there be any downside to terminating the pipe in an AN bulkhead fitting with the outer end cut off, to make it look rather like a large static port? This seems the most robust and elegant way to do it, but I=99m concerned that it may cause problems I hadn=99t thought of. Anyone have any relevant experience or knowledge of the shapes of fuel vents? in friendship Rowland | Rowland Carson ... that's Rowland with a 'w' ... | <rowlandcarson@gmail.com> http://www.rowlandcarson.org.uk | Skype, Twitter: rowland_carson Facebook: Rowland Carson | pictures: http://picasaweb.google.com/rowlandcarson


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    Time: 05:00:32 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Southco Fasteners
    From: Robert Borger <rlborger@mac.com>
    Frank, Aircraft Spruce has Southco Fasteners but not 82-14-260-20 (Flush Head #82 Stainless Slotted). But they do have 82-28-260-16 (Flush Head #82 Zinc Plated Phillips) and 82-11-260-16 (Oval Head #82 Dacrotized Slotted). Either of these should work unless you just MUST HAVE Flush Head Stainless Slotted. They also have the #82 retainers and #82 receptacles for the #82 studs. I hope this helps. Blue skies & tailwinds, Bob Borger Europa XS Tri, Rotax 914, Airmaster C/S Prop (75 hrs). Little Toot Sport Biplane, Lycoming Thunderbolt AEIO-320 EXP 3705 Lynchburg Dr. Corinth, TX 76208-5331 Cel: 817-992-1117 rlborger@mac.com On May 4, 2016, at 2:16 PM, spcialeffects <spcialeffects@aol.com> wrote: Hi all. I have just moved on to fitting my cowlings and wanted to use the Europa club mod where the cowlings are secured together with the Southco quarter turn fasteners........however I contacted LASaero and gave them part number : 82-14-260-20 and was told that they are unable to supply them. Then I tried the Southco website, contacted their authorised dealer and was told that particular part number is a special order only and their minimum order is 5000! So my question is does anyone know where I can get these fasteners from OR doe's anyone have some (30 or so) that they didn't use and want to sell? Many thanks Frank




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