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1. 12:25 AM - flying one wing down (roddyeuropa@aol.com)
2. 12:54 AM - Re: flying one wing down (davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk)
3. 04:11 AM - Non lifting weight allowance (Wladimir Kummer de Paula)
4. 08:33 AM - New Panel - Master/Ignition Switches (italianjon)
5. 09:33 AM - Re: Non lifting weight allowance (Ian Cook)
6. 10:29 AM - Re: New Panel - Master/Ignition Switches (zwakie)
7. 12:23 PM - Re: Jet Age Museum Fly In (Richard Iddon)
8. 12:56 PM - Re: Jet Age Museum Fly In (davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk)
9. 04:35 PM - Re: Are you ready to takeoff for Oshkosh. (AirEupora)
10. 08:56 PM - Re: Re: Are you ready to takeoff for Oshkosh. (Bud Yerly)
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| Subject: | flying one wing down |
Hi
Since I had my europa repaired it has a tendency to fly one wing down. I suspect
this may be due to one wing having been repaired by a professional sailplane
repairer (Roger Targett) and this wing being more efficient at generating lift
than the 15 year old, not quite so pristine, other wing.
Questions for the group -
1) is there any way I can rig the ailerons to correct this? I suspect that if I
adjust the aileron on the wing that drops the ailerons will just centralise slightly
down. maybe a small trim tab?
2) Do others find that their europas will slowly drop a wing if flown hands off?
In practice, its not a problem as I have a wing leveler installed, but I would
like to correct the problem if I can at source.
Regards
Roddy Kesterton
G-IKRK
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| Subject: | Re: flying one wing down |
Roddy, You can trim it to whatever sort of balance you like by adding a
strip of triangular section wood under the trailing edge of the aileron
of the wing you want to push down. Cross section roughly 2cm fore & aft,
5 or 6mm at thick trailing edge. Stick say 15" on temporarily and then
shorten to achieve desired effect before sticking/ painting permanently.
Regards, David Joyce, GXSDJ
On 2016-07-20 08:23, roddyeuropa@aol.com wrote:
> Hi
>
> Since I had my europa repaired it has a tendency to fly one wing down. I suspect
this may be due to one wing having been repaired by a professional sailplane
repairer (Roger Targett) and this wing being more efficient at generating lift
than the 15 year old, not quite so pristine, other wing.
> Questions for the group -
> 1) is there any way I can rig the ailerons to correct this? I suspect that if
I adjust the aileron on the wing that drops the ailerons will just centralise
slightly down. maybe a small trim tab?
> 2) Do others find that their europas will slowly drop a wing if flown hands off?
In practice, its not a problem as I have a wing leveler installed, but I would
like to correct the problem if I can at source.
>
> Regards
>
> Roddy Kesterton
> G-IKRK
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| Subject: | Non lifting weight allowance |
Hello folks,
After a search I couldnt find the max allowance for the non lifting
weight parts. Im building the Europa Motorglider and need to calculate
the max payload capability.
Thanks
Wladimir
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| Subject: | New Panel - Master/Ignition Switches |
Hi All,
I am well into designing a new panel, that I will probably ultimately install over
the winter months.
My thoughts are to place the Master Switch on a keyed 12V switch (One that does
not allow the key to be removed in the "live" position); and then put the Left/Right
Mags and "Alternator" Relay (i.e. Voltage Regulator disconnection relay)
on to standard pole switches.
The starter circuit would go on a protected push button switch.
Through this process I am wondering why aircraft are wired the way they are. Is
there any reason that the Master Switch is free to be switched on and the ignition
is keyed?
. I can see the safety aspect of starting the engine, but in my proposal this would
be covered, by 1) a keyed master switch, and 2) a protected push button switch.
I guess I am asking you all to sanity check the idea, because I am not sure of/can't
see the negatives myself.
Regards
Jon
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| Subject: | Non lifting weight allowance |
Wladimir,
Mine has been weighed 3 times but nobody has quoted a max mass for
non-lifting parts on their schedules. However, I find I have put a
figure on my weighing Spread Sheet as 550 lb, but I cannot remember
where I obtained that figure? If it helps please find attach SS
Regards
Ian Cook
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From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Wladimir
Kummer de Paula
Sent: 20 July 2016 12:06
Subject: Europa-List: Non lifting weight allowance
--> <wladimirkummer@gmail.com>
Hello folks,
After a search I couldnt find the max allowance for the non lifting
weight parts. I=C2=B4m building the Europa Motorglider and need to
calculate the max payload capability.
Thanks
Wladimir
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| Subject: | Re: New Panel - Master/Ignition Switches |
Hi Jon,
I am currently going the same process as you, and have decided to go with two toggle
switches for the ignition circuits (with toggle guards) and a push button
for the starter circuit. Exactly what you are looking into, except for that
I am not putting in a keyed switch (I can see the safety aspect of having one,
but in my case that isn't much of an issue so I left it out).
I have done quite some research before deciding to go this way, and I could not
find a single argument against this approach. I could find one benefit however:
you will be able to crank the engine without firing the engine by leaving the
ignition switch to the OFF position.
Also I figured that by using 3 switches for these 3 functions, I will have not
a single point of failure for all 3 functions (this might carry little -if any-
scientific significance, but at the very minimum gives me a little extra piece
of mind...)
FYI: the basis of my new wiring schema is the Z16 figure from the AeroElectric
Connection and the AeroElectric list here on Matronics. Tons of information can
be found there, if you haven't already, please go and loose some hours absorbing
all the knowledge available.
--------
Marcel Zwakenberg
XS TG || 912ULS || PH-SBR
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| Subject: | Re: Jet Age Museum Fly In |
HI David,
Hoping to make it to the JAM fly in on Saturday. Are there any specific instructions
for flying in or just as on the Gloucester web site? I see there is plenty
of info there.
Regards,
Richard
> On 7 Jul 2016, at 21:20, davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk wrote:
>
> <JAM advert.docx>
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| Subject: | Re: Jet Age Museum Fly In |
Richard You are duly registered for one meal (let me know if more
coming, but maybe you are still not up to 3 landings speed) Briefing
herewith David
On 2016-07-20 20:22, Richard Iddon wrote:
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> HI David,
>
> Hoping to make it to the JAM fly in on Saturday. Are there any specific instructions
for flying in or just as on the Gloucester web site? I see there is plenty
of info there.
>
> Regards,
>
> Richard
>
>> On 7 Jul 2016, at 21:20, davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk wrote: <JAM advert.docx>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Are you ready to takeoff for Oshkosh. |
Took an early morning flight in N120EJ to have a new connector put on my VOR cable.
Once the new connector and a check with the ground base VOR headed up to
10000 feet. It was beautiful here in northern California. I could see to the
fog shrouded San Francisco Bay. Over hundred miles away. Fresh oil and filter,
good compression check I'm headed for KOSH on Friday morning. Might make it
on Saturday or Sunday. According to My iPad it's right at 13.5 hours and 71
gallons of fuel. I'll be following I-80 most of the way through the mountains.
Once I reach Rawlings, WY. It's down hill to KOSH. Looking forward to see
all the Europa's and their owners.
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| Subject: | Re: Are you ready to takeoff for Oshkosh. |
It's midnight and I was thwarted by a failing starter armature. No time to
get a new one, so I'm driving tomorrow to PIE to visit family and friends by
Friday evening and then drive the couple hours north to Osh arriving Sunday
night...
Bud Yerly
-----Original Message-----
From: AirEupora
Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2016 7:34 PM
Subject: Europa-List: Re: Are you ready to takeoff for Oshkosh.
Took an early morning flight in N120EJ to have a new connector put on my VOR
cable. Once the new connector and a check with the ground base VOR headed
up to 10000 feet. It was beautiful here in northern California. I could
see to the fog shrouded San Francisco Bay. Over hundred miles away. Fresh
oil and filter, good compression check I'm headed for KOSH on Friday
morning. Might make it on Saturday or Sunday. According to My iPad it's
right at 13.5 hours and 71 gallons of fuel. I'll be following I-80 most of
the way through the mountains. Once I reach Rawlings, WY. It's down hill to
KOSH. Looking forward to see all the Europa's and their owners.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=458448#458448
Attachments:
http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_0010_287.jpg
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