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                           Europa-List Digest Archive
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                     Total Messages Posted Sat 07/23/16: 4
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Today's Message Index:
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     1. 03:20 AM - Re: New Panel - Master/Ignition Switches  (rampil)
     2. 06:53 AM - Non lifting weight  (Wladimir Kummer de Paula)
     3. 10:41 AM - Re: Non lifting weight  (rampil)
     4. 11:28 AM - Non lifting weight  (Wladimir Kummer de Paula)
 
 
 
________________________________  Message 1  _____________________________________


Time: 03:20:40 AM PST US
Subject: Europa-List: Re: New Panel - Master/Ignition Switches
From: "rampil" <ira.rampil@gmail.com>


I think the key lock is prevent the aircraft from walking away without its owner.
Turning on the radio with the keyless master buss will not steal the aircraft.

Interestingly, on topic, the WWII warbirds I have been in did not have keyed switches
at all originally. I guess an armed guard was supposed to served the security
purpose. From what I have heard more modern warbirds (F16, A10, UH-1Y,
Cobra, etc.) maintain this tradition. Maybe Bud can expound on this, round the
campfire this week at KOSH.

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Ira N224XS


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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=458560#458560


________________________________  Message 2  _____________________________________


Time: 06:53:04 AM PST US
From: Wladimir Kummer de Paula <wladimirkummer@gmail.com>
Subject: Europa-List: Non lifting weight


Hi folks,

The max non lifting weight allowance is the max weight of the airplane 
fully loaded less the wings. This is used to calculate static moments 
and to dimension spars, attach points and so on. Id like to info so I 
can calculate accuratelly my max payload.

Best to all

Wlad


________________________________  Message 3  _____________________________________


Time: 10:41:20 AM PST US
Subject: Europa-List: Re: Non lifting weight
From: "rampil" <ira.rampil@gmail.com>


Thanks for the update Wlad!

Sorry to say, I never measured a W&B on my europa without wings.

Are you sure you need that particular weight spec?  The engineering of the structure
is completely fixed by the kit manufacturer and payload = 
Max Gross - empty weight (of complete structure with wings)

I can see want the fuse weight for the structural engineering of the spars, etc,
but I don't see the need in calculating payload?

Depending where you are,the max gross is set by the manufacturer of the Kit, or
by the builder. In my case, I simply set my max gross to 1450#  Please don't
ask for my engineering data. FAA regs allow the builder to set it by executive
fiat, which after consultation with the FlightCrafter guys and Bud, I did just
that.

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Ira N224XS


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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=458573#458573


________________________________  Message 4  _____________________________________


Time: 11:28:54 AM PST US
From: Wladimir Kummer de Paula <wladimirkummer@gmail.com>
Subject: Europa-List: Non lifting weight


Hi folks,

The max non lifting weight allowance is the max weight of the airplane 
fully loaded less the wings. This is used to calculate static moments 
and to dimension spars, attach points and so on. Id like to info so I 
can calculate accuratelly my max payload.

Best to all

Wlad


 

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