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1. 12:19 AM - 8.33khz and the Netherlands (Bob Hitchcock)
2. 12:26 AM - Fw: 8.33khz and the Netherlands (Bob Hitchcock)
3. 12:55 AM - Re: 8.33khz and the Netherlands (zwakie)
4. 02:52 AM - 8.33khz and the Netherlands (Bob Hitchcock)
5. 05:48 AM - Unidentified Probe (BobD)
6. 06:43 AM - Unidentified Probe (BobD)
7. 07:00 AM - Unidentified Probe (BobD)
8. 07:39 AM - Re: Unidentified Probe (Karl Heindl)
9. 08:18 AM - Re: Unidentified Probe (davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk)
10. 08:55 AM - Re: Unidentified Probe (Paul M 383)
11. 09:25 AM - Europa Monowheel Classic with XS firewall forward (bryannortje)
12. 09:44 AM - Re: Europa Monowheel Classic with XS firewall forward (Rowland Carson)
13. 11:47 AM - Re: Europa Monowheel Classic with XS firewall forward (bryannortje)
14. 03:23 PM - Re: Unidentified Probe (BobD)
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| Subject: | 8.33khz and the Netherlands |
Hi Marcel, Hi David
Approaching from the west and being aware suggests all could be OK for the Texel
scenario. Only those needing a service from an 8:33 class C would be impacted.
When I last flew to Texel it was "route one" across the North Sea. I had De
Hooy as an option for contact. On the official link below De Hooy is not available
to non 8:33 compliant aircraft from this month. If a route was chosen that
required a route, then the following list of stations would seem to be important.
Always a disappointment to loose communication options, especially when
flying a long way over water with few options already.
List of Dutch stations (note due for update). De Hooy is on the list of stations
no longer available.
Citation 8:33
http://ais-netherlands.nl/aim/2016-05-12-AIRAC/eAIP/html/eAIC/EH-eAIC-2016-02-A-en-GB.html
Citation of Dutch fine.
http://forums.flyer.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=100979&start=15
Regards
Bob
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| Subject: | Fwd: 8.33khz and the Netherlands |
Errata Hooy
Begin forwarded message:
> From: Bob Hitchcock <bobhitchcock@icloud.com>
> Date: 27 July 2016 at 08:18:20 BST
> To: Europa List <europa-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: 8.33khz and the Netherlands
>
> Hi Marcel, Hi David
>
> Approaching from the west and being aware suggests all could be OK for the
Texel scenario. Only those needing a service from an 8:33 class C would be
impacted. When I last flew to Texel it was "route one" across the North Sea
. I had De Kooy as an option for contact. On the official link below De Kooy
is not available to non 8:33 compliant aircraft from this month. If a route
was chosen that required a route, then the following list of stations would
seem to be important. Always a disappointment to loose communication option
s, especially when flying a long way over water with few options already.
>
> List of Dutch stations (note due for update). De Kooy is on the list of s
tations no longer available.
>
>
> Citation 8:33
> http://ais-netherlands.nl/aim/2016-05-12-AIRAC/eAIP/html/eAIC/EH-eAIC-2016
-02-A-en-GB.html
>
> Citation of Dutch fine.
> http://forums.flyer.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=100979&start=15
>
>
> Regards
>
> Bob
Begin forwarded message:
> From: Bob Hitchcock <bobhitchcock@icloud.com>
> Date: 27 July 2016 at 08:18:20 BST
> To: Europa List <europa-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: 8.33khz and the Netherlands
>
> Hi Marcel, Hi David
>
> Approaching from the west and being aware suggests all could be OK for the
Texel scenario. Only those needing a service from an 8:33 class C would be
impacted. When I last flew to Texel it was "route one" across the North Sea
. I had De Hooy as an option for contact. On the official link below De Hooy
is not available to non 8:33 compliant aircraft from this month. If a route
was chosen that required a route, then the following list of stations would
seem to be important. Always a disappointment to loose communication option
s, especially when flying a long way over water with few options already.
>
> List of Dutch stations (note due for update). De Hooy is on the list of s
tations no longer available.
>
>
> Citation 8:33
> http://ais-netherlands.nl/aim/2016-05-12-AIRAC/eAIP/html/eAIC/EH-eAIC-2016
-02-A-en-GB.html
>
> Citation of Dutch fine.
> http://forums.flyer.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=100979&start=15
>
>
> Regards
>
> Bob
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| Subject: | Re: 8.33khz and the Netherlands |
Thanks Bob for including the link to the conversion planning, that's helpful for
all that are visiting from abroad!
Also I stand corrected: 8:33 is not limited to CTR's, as clearly outlined in the
link you provided ;)
Hope to meet many of you at Texel!
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Marcel Zwakenberg
XS TG || 912ULS || PH-SBR
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| Subject: | 8.33khz and the Netherlands |
Hi Marcel
It's always good to talk. Great to hear from you after such a long time. Ho
pe to meet up at some point. For me 8:33 De Kooy (always have difficulty wit
h my writing and speaking Dutch language, apologies.) makes it awkward. Thou
gh we in the UK have had some great news. A confirmation that in the UK wil
l now gain a subsidy from the EU of 20% of the cost of a new 8.33 radio. Per
sonally I will fill in a form and buy one as soon as the final version of t
he application form is released. Presume you also have ( as a fellow EU citi
zen) the same opportunity in The Netherlands?
Bulletin :"=82=AC4.3m of grants from the EU, the CAA confirmed today.The C
AA applied to the EU for =82=AC4.3m funding to encourage the timely trans
ition of the UK GA fleet from existing 25 kHz radios to 8.33kHz equipment. T
hat application was for the maximum permitted grant of 20 per cent of the es
timated total cost of 8.33kHz equipage."
Regards
Bob Hitchcock
Mono XS
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| Subject: | Unidentified Probe |
HI,
Does anyone recognise the item in these two photographs? It came in a box of bits
with my recently acquired part-built Europa. It looks like a temperature probe
of some sort, but apart from a temperature range, and a small battery compRTMENT,
it has no other external markings
I would be grateful if someone can tell me what it is , and what the pinouts are.
TIA
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Bob Dawson
XS TG || 912 ULS || G-NHRJ
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| Subject: | Unidentified Probe |
Hi,
Does anyone recognise the item in these two photographs? It came in a box of bits
with my recently acquired part-built Europa. It looks like a temperature probe
of some sort, but apart from a temperature range, and a small battery compartment,
it has no other external markings
I would be grateful if someone can tell me what it is , and what the pinouts are.
https://www.flickr.com/gp/145519443@N02/5i3017
https://www.flickr.com/gp/145519443@N02/72LPEB
Another question - Why can't I upload these jpg files directly ? I tried "Add Attachment"
but it doesn't appear to work, so I have displayed them as Flickr Files.
TIA
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Bob Dawson
XS TG || 912 ULS || G-NHRJ
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| Subject: | Unidentified Probe |
Hi,
Does anyone recognise the item in these two photographs? It came in a box of bits
with my recently acquired part-built Europa. It looks like a temperature probe
of some sort, but apart from a temperature range, and a small battery compartment,
it has no other external markings
I would be grateful if someone can tell me what it is , and what the pinouts are.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/0bv7uvdgxhxxud1/probe_1.jpg?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/olpbzfbgcb2g5lc/probe_2.jpg?dl=0
Another question - The "Add Attachment" doesn't appear to work for uploading these
photos, hence I have posted Dropbox links. Any idea why ?
TIA
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Bob Dawson
XS TG || 912 ULS || G-NHRJ
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| Subject: | Re: Unidentified Probe |
The first one is part of the carb heat kit from Skydrive. It displays coola
nt temperature at the carburetor, but only up to 50C.
The second one seems to perform the same function but have no idea why you
need 2.
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From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com <owner-europa-list-server@matr
onics.com> on behalf of BobD <rjd@bobdawson.plus.com>
Sent: 27 July 2016 14:42:48
Subject: Europa-List: Unidentified Probe
Hi,
Does anyone recognise the item in these two photographs? It came in a box o
f bits with my recently acquired part-built Europa. It looks like a tempera
ture probe of some sort, but apart from a temperature range, and a small ba
ttery compartment, it has no other external markings
I would be grateful if someone can tell me what it is , and what the pinout
s are.
https://www.flickr.com/gp/145519443@N02/5i3017
https://www.flickr.com/gp/145519443@N02/72LPEB
Another question - Why can't I upload these jpg files directly ? I tried "A
dd Attachment" but it doesn't appear to work, so I have displayed them as F
lickr Files.
TIA
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Bob Dawson
XS TG || 912 ULS || G-NHRJ
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=458770#458770
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| Subject: | Re: Unidentified Probe |
Bob, It looks like an inexpensive battery operated temperature gauge. I
have a very similar, possibly identical one giving me air box
temperature. I seem to remember it cost about 15.
Regards, David Joyce, G-XSDJ
On 2016-07-27 14:42, BobD wrote:
>
> Hi,
> Does anyone recognise the item in these two photographs? It came in a box of
bits with my recently acquired part-built Europa. It looks like a temperature
probe of some sort, but apart from a temperature range, and a small battery compartment,
it has no other external markings
>
> I would be grateful if someone can tell me what it is , and what the pinouts
are.
>
> https://www.flickr.com/gp/145519443@N02/5i3017 [1]
> https://www.flickr.com/gp/145519443@N02/72LPEB [2]
>
> Another question - Why can't I upload these jpg files directly ? I tried "Add
Attachment" but it doesn't appear to work, so I have displayed them as Flickr
Files.
>
> TIA
>
> --------
> Bob Dawson
> XS TG || 912 ULS || G-NHRJ
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=458770#458770 [3]
>
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| Subject: | Re: Unidentified Probe |
Hi Bob,
It's the temp probe and (LCD?) readout for a SkyDrive carb heat kit http://www.skydrive.co.uk/proddetail.asp?prod=CH-912-3
The Mk2 kit was milled aluminium with AN fittings and so had room for a drilled
hole to take the probe; the current Mk3 kit has copper (brass?) tubing encased
in a cast ali body with no room for a probe.
I have the Mk2, but discarded the probe (and standalone readout) in favour of the
SkyDrive water temp kit
http://www.skydrive.co.uk/proddetail.asp?prod=WTG-912-3
whose readout can be fed into a Dynon Skyview (other EMSs are available).
HTH
Paul M
383 XS Mono 912S
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http://forums.matronics.com//files/mk2_carb_heat_a_446.jpg
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| Subject: | Europa Monowheel Classic with XS firewall forward |
I have available a beautifully built nearly Finshed (complete) Europa Monowheel
Kit.
Remaining work is Instrument Panel completion with associated electrical wiring
and firewall forward installation. Fuselage, wings tailplanes etc all complete
pre-fitted and painted white.
Cockpit Interior complete apart from Instrument/avionics selection & installations.
All paperwork up to date and signed off.
I have EVERYTHING including new Engine(and extras) needed to complete the build
including a reserved Registration mark and new Funke ATR8.33 Radio. There is
too much to list here.
Comes with Trailer and special stands for both fuselage and wings for easy workshop
storage / maintenance and rigging.
If you know what you looking for and to have one of these in the air within a couple
months then this is no doubt a Gem. Further information available via email
or telephone contact.
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Europa Owner / Builder and Passionate about Flying
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| Subject: | Re: Europa Monowheel Classic with XS firewall forward |
On 2016-07-27, at 17:25, bryannortje <bryannortje@gmail.com> wrote:
> I have available a beautifully built nearly Finshed (complete) Europa Monowheel
Kit.
Bryan - and in what country is this machine presently situate?
in friendship
Rowland
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| Subject: | Re: Europa Monowheel Classic with XS firewall forward |
I have available a beautifully built nearly Finshed (complete) Europa Monowheel
Kit. All Items based in East Midlands
Remaining work is Instrument Panel completion with associated electrical wiring
and firewall forward installation. Fuselage, wings tailplanes etc all complete
pre-fitted and painted white.
Cockpit Interior complete apart from Instrument/avionics selection & installations.
All paperwork up to date and signed off.
I have EVERYTHING including new Engine(and extras) needed to complete the build
including a reserved Registration mark and new Funke ATR8.33 Radio. There is
too much to list here.
Comes with Trailer and special stands for both fuselage and wings for easy workshop
storage / maintenance and rigging.
If you know what you looking for and to have one of these in the air within a couple
months then this is no doubt a Gem. Further information available via email
or telephone contact. Advert can also be seen with photo's on AFORS. Asking
30 K for all
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Europa Owner / Builder and Passionate about Flying
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| Subject: | Re: Unidentified Probe |
Thanks for all the replies.
My Europa does have a Carb Heat kit fitted, and from Paul's description, it is
a Mk.2
I'll change the battery, and have a play with it, but I have already fitted the
Water Temperature adapter from Skydrive, and plan to get a Dynon Skyview Panel
to monitor, amongst other things, the Water Temp. I understand from elsewhere
on the forum that Rotax do not fit a probe for Water Temp, but rely on Cylinder
Head Temp for engine monitoring. I would like to keep an eye on the Water
Temp, so have used one of the two Cylinder Head Probes for the Water Temp.
This means at present, I will only be measuring CHT at one cylinder. Do other do
this, or fit 2 or even four probes, and measure each Cylinder ?
Is there any advantage in having both Water Temp, and Carb Temp (by using this
probe ) ?
Sorry for the initial confusion, both photos are of the same device from different
angles. If it is self powered via the battery, any idea what the pinout connections
are for ?
TIA
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Bob Dawson
XS TG || 912 ULS || G-NHRJ
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