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1. 01:36 AM - Scout Flying, Defford 10 September (davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk)
2. 06:16 AM - Re: Scout Flying, Defford 10 September (Alan Twigg)
3. 08:59 AM - Re: Scout Flying, Defford 10 September (davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk)
4. 10:48 AM - Re: Fw: Re: Cooling issues XS 914 on the ground (Bud Yerly)
5. 12:43 PM - Fw: Re: Cooling issues XS 914 on the ground (Roland)
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Subject: | Scout Flying, Defford 10 September |
Dear UK Europa Pilots,
We are looking for volunteers to fly scouts at our annual scouts camp
at Defford on Sat 10th September (weather alternate 11/9). Details on
attachment. This has proved a very rewarding experience for the many
Europa Pilots who have helped in the past. Free lunch thrown in! Contact
me if interested,
Regards, David Joyce, GXSDJ, email or 01454 260542
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Subject: | Re: Scout Flying, Defford 10 September |
I will be there with my Robin DR400 D-EDQR.
Alan Twigg
Sent from my iPhone
> On 10 Aug 2016, at 09:34, davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk wrote:
>
> Dear UK Europa Pilots,
>
> We are looking for volunteers to fly scouts at our annual sco
uts camp at Defford on Sat 10th September (weather alternate 11/9). Details o
n attachment. This has proved a very rewarding experience for the many Europ
a Pilots who have helped in the past. Free lunch thrown in! Contact me if i
nterested,
>
> Regards, David Joyce, GXSDJ, email or 01454 260542
>
>
>
>
> <Defford advert 2016.docx>
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Subject: | Re: Scout Flying, Defford 10 September |
Alan, great many thanks. Briefing herewith. David
On 2016-08-10 14:15, Alan Twigg wrote:
> I will be there with my Robin DR400 D-EDQR.
> Alan Twigg
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> On 10 Aug 2016, at 09:34, davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk wrote:
>
>> Dear UK Europa Pilots,
>>
>> We are looking for volunteers to fly scouts at our annual scouts camp at Defford
on Sat 10th September (weather alternate 11/9). Details on attachment. This
has proved a very rewarding experience for the many Europa Pilots who have
helped in the past. Free lunch thrown in! Contact me if interested,
>>
>> Regards, David Joyce, GXSDJ, email or 01454 260542
>
>> <Defford advert 2016.docx>
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Subject: | Re: Fwd: Re: Cooling issues XS 914 on the ground |
OK Roland,
I am confounded by your ground cooling issues. I was checking out an
Instructor pilot for N12AY at 95F and he took a full 20 minutes with a tail
wind doing ground checks then taxied for another 5 then ran up and we did in
fact hit 245F on the ground. On takeoff it stayed at 245 and we leveled at
1000 AGL after takeoff for 2 minutes and temps dropped below 240 then we
climbed to 5000 AGL never hitting 245 again. On a stock setup, you should
see the same.
Some find Drop box works very well for photos rather than albums but photos
are a pain no matter what we do. I love how instant communications burns up
so much of my day.
Regards,
Bud Yerly
-----Original Message-----
From: Roland
Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2016 3:35 AM
Subject: Europa-List: Fwd: Re: Cooling issues XS 914 on the ground
Bud, thanks for your offer. I already tried to attach photos but will try
again later. I removed the mentioned sealing again, since it obviously made
the situation worse.
Again, in flight the setup worked perfect under all conditions-I even didn't
came close to CHT-limits when climbing FL200 in summer without a level off.
CHT reading should also be correct since I once shut down at 118C and
could hear the coolant boiling a little bit.
Regards
Roland
PH-ZTI
XS TG 914
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Subject: | Re: Fwd: Re: Cooling issues XS 914 on the ground |
Bud, that is really amazing. How can it be, that you can make 25 minutes of ground
operations at 95F in a tailwind with a standard setup? OTOH my CHT also drops
immediately several C when changing from climb into a cruise setting. But
when I landed after a 2 hrs cruise flight last weekend and reached the parking
position in a brisk tailwind the CHT rose literally one C every second.
Overheating with the XS cowling is quite common, even in middle Europe. David Joyce
or Frans Veldmann or the Scandinavian Europa owner I met last weekend can
tell a story. Because of that issues many many Europa owners made their own -
sometimes radical - modifications and because of that Neville Eyre designed a
better cowling with a lower air inlet. When I walked along the parked Rotax-powered
aircraft at the fly in last weekend, there wasn't even one of them with
a cooling duct similar to the Europa.....
Today I sealed a gap of 1 mm between the tunnel and the radiator. I also managed
to increase the gap between the tunnel edge and the firewall (which is completely
in front of the gear frame). As I said, I removed the sealing between the
upper tunnel edge and the cowling again because it increased CHT. Removing the
thermostat is still on my to do list.
I'm afraid no pictures at the moment, although the size is within the allowed limits.
Regards
Roland
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