Europa-List Digest Archive

Thu 08/11/16


Total Messages Posted: 7



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 07:07 AM - Re: Photos of my cooling duct (Bud Yerly)
     2. 07:15 AM - Did Anybody see thius on BBC (AirEupora)
     3. 11:11 AM - Re: Did Anybody see thius on BBC (Bud Yerly)
     4. 11:46 AM - Re: Did Anybody see thius on BBC (Roland)
     5. 11:56 AM - Re: Did Anybody see thius on BBC (Pete Lawless)
     6. 12:23 PM - Re: Re: Dynon Pitot AOA placement (William Daniell)
     7. 12:24 PM - Re: Re: Dynon Pitot AOA placement (William Daniell)
 
 
 


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    Time: 07:07:44 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Photos of my cooling duct
    From: Bud Yerly <budyerly@msn.com>
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    Time: 07:15:08 AM PST US
    Subject: Did Anybody see thius on BBC
    From: "AirEupora" <AirEupora@sbcglobal.net>
    http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-humber-37034612 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=459451#459451


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    Time: 11:11:33 AM PST US
    From: "Bud Yerly" <budyerly@msn.com>
    Subject: Re: Did Anybody see thius on BBC
    Looks intact and probably is. Nightmare to pull out all the fasteners and metal. Yuk! In fresh water , just pull the engine and gear out, do some corrosion control and reassemble. Inspect, test and go fly! 4-6 hard weeks plus engine rebuild time. Salt leaching out of the seams, joints fastener holes etc. is a real concern. $25,000 insurance job in fresh water, but in salt water, I doubt it will return to fly. Would require a higher inspection requirement due to corrosion concerns and getting the fasteners out and changing trim motors and tailplane system on a classic is a bit of a pain.. Saved the pilots life and the environment.... Must be a good airplane. Regards, Bud Yerly -----Original Message----- From: AirEupora Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2016 10:13 AM Subject: Europa-List: Did Anybody see thius on BBC http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-humber-37034612 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=459451#459451


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    Time: 11:46:05 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Did Anybody see thius on BBC
    From: "Roland" <schmidtroland@web.de>
    Why not throwing it in fresh water then? :-) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=459454#459454


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    Time: 11:56:36 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Did Anybody see thius on BBC
    From: Pete Lawless <pete@lawless.info>
    Bud it did not end up intact. There is another picture from a local paper showing the engine broken off from the fuselage. WInd and waves I guess. Before: http://www.holderness-gazette.co.uk/artplanecrashbeach110816.htm After: http://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/pilot-escapes-unscathed-as-plane-crashes-in-withernsea/story-29606351-detail/story.html At least we know they float! Pete G-RMAC Classic #109 On 11/08/16 19:10, Bud Yerly wrote: > > Looks intact and probably is. Nightmare to pull out all the fasteners > and metal. Yuk! > In fresh water , just pull the engine and gear out, do some corrosion > control and reassemble. Inspect, test and go fly! > 4-6 hard weeks plus engine rebuild time. Salt leaching out of the > seams, joints fastener holes etc. is a real concern. > $25,000 insurance job in fresh water, but in salt water, I doubt it > will return to fly. Would require a higher inspection requirement due > to corrosion concerns and getting the fasteners out and changing trim > motors and tailplane system on a classic is a bit of a pain.. > > Saved the pilots life and the environment.... Must be a good airplane. > > Regards, > Bud Yerly > > -----Original Message----- From: AirEupora > Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2016 10:13 AM > To: europa-list@matronics.com > Subject: Europa-List: Did Anybody see thius on BBC > > > http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-humber-37034612 > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=459451#459451 > >


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    Time: 12:23:16 PM PST US
    From: William Daniell <wdaniell.longport@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Dynon Pitot AOA placement
    Ira thanks Im sure there wont be a problem in colombia with this Will On Aug 6, 2016 10:12, "rampil" <ira.rampil@gmail.com> wrote: > > Generically speaking, a larger surface mount area implies a lower stress > than a smaller area (Force per square inch and all). In the States, an > extra ply or two of BID applied through the mounting hole would cover the > new screw holes. What the UK requires, I can not begin to comment on. > > -------- > Ira N224XS > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=459264#459264 > >


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    Time: 12:24:29 PM PST US
    From: William Daniell <wdaniell.longport@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: RE: Dynon Pitot AOA placement
    Eric Im using the half mast as opposed to just the probe....if that makes sense Will On Aug 5, 2016 7:02 PM, "Erich Trombley" <erichdtrombley@juno.com> wrote: > > Hi Will, > > You didn't mention which mounting mast you using, only that you have the Dynon Pitot. Which mast you have will determine options. > > Erich Trombley > 914 Mono Classic > > > William wrote > > "I did not research this on the forum before closing my wings - I thought that I would simply place the Dynon Pitot in the same place as the Europa original. > I have received the dynon and it has a larger surface area that the europa item and therefore will exert more stress on the mounting point. it also has a larger "footprint" > So the options I see are: > Putting the dynon in the same place as the Europa pitot but with some reinforcement ont he outside. I am assuming that if the europa pitot works in that position then the dynon should work too. > Making a new hole which I am loath to do. > I saw various options on the forum history including mounting the dynon on the wing inspection cover. Has anyone done this? > > > ____________________________________________________________ *> What Happens When You Take a Testosterone Supplement <http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3132/57a5197929b3019790bf9st01vuc>* > If you're like most guys, you love having energy, being able to have a ... <http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3132/57a5197929b3019790bf9st01vuc> > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3132/57a5197929b3019790bf9st01vuc <http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3132/57a5197929b3019790bf9st01vuc>




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