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1. 12:49 AM - Re: Instrument panel module gathering dust? (zwakie)
2. 01:29 AM - Re: Instrument panel module gathering dust? (carlp101)
3. 02:25 AM - Re: Cooling issues XS 914 on the ground (carlp101)
4. 02:32 AM - Re: Cooling issues XS 914 on the ground (carlp101)
5. 02:37 AM - Re: Instrument panel module gathering dust? (zwakie)
6. 02:45 AM - Re: Re: Cooling issues XS 914 on the ground (Rowland Carson)
7. 02:58 AM - Re: Re: Cooling issues XS 914 on the ground (Kevin Challis)
8. 05:02 AM - Re: Cooling issues XS 914 on the ground (JohnFrance)
9. 05:15 AM - Re: Re: Cooling issues XS 914 on the ground (david park)
10. 05:19 AM - Cooling Fan (david park)
11. 05:21 AM - Re: Re: Cooling issues XS 914 on the ground (david park)
12. 06:52 AM - Re: Cooling Fan (rampil)
13. 07:13 AM - Re: Re: Cooling Fan (david park)
14. 07:23 AM - Re: Re: Cooling issues XS 914 on the ground (Greg Fuchs)
15. 07:51 AM - Re: Re: Cooling Fan (Alan Burrill)
16. 07:56 AM - Re: Re: Cooling issues XS 914 on the ground (david park)
17. 08:04 AM - Re: Re: Cooling issues XS 914 on the ground (Alan Burrill)
18. 08:32 AM - Re: Re: Cooling issues XS 914 on the ground (Kevin Challis)
19. 08:37 AM - Re: Re: Cooling issues XS 914 on the ground (Greg Fuchs)
20. 08:46 AM - Re: Re: Cooling issues XS 914 on the ground (david park)
21. 10:49 AM - Fw: Infringments (Alan Burrill)
22. 11:24 AM - Re: Cooling issues XS 914 on the ground (Remi Guerner)
23. 03:36 PM - Re: Cooling issues XS 914 on the ground (carlp101)
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| Subject: | Re: Instrument panel module gathering dust? |
Hi Steven,
Reading your reply just now, that explains why I did not contact you last night
[Wink]
Even though I was aiming for an uncut panel, I am not dismissing your offer immediately
because yours could be made into what I have in mind. In order to assess
that, could you please post some pictures here so I can have a look?
Thanks!
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Marcel Zwakenberg
XS TG || 912ULS || PH-SBR
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| Subject: | Re: Instrument panel module gathering dust? |
I've made a few panels for my Europa (I keep adding stuff) and I just used an original
as a template and cut one out of 1.5 mm aluminium. Perhaps you could take
this approach using the club panel?
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| Subject: | Re: Cooling issues XS 914 on the ground |
This is all sounding very complicated.
I was having cooling issues on the ground and on extended cruise climbs. I have
the 13 row oil cooler too, but the builder had it mounted with a 30 mm gap between
its base and the inside cowl face. So, a lot of air was just exiting the
cowl without being forced through it or the water radiator.
I've just moved it down 30 mm so there is no gap between it and the inside of the
cowl. I also made two plates that extend the sides of the aluminium cowl duct
(that it's mounted to) down to the base of the oil cooler face and infront
of the mounting points on either side to block off those gaps. Now, all the air
that comes in through the stock rectangular cowl opening has to pass either
through the water radiator or the oil radiator. There's no where else for it to
go.
Testing suggests all cooling issues have been solved. On the ground I was still
within temperature limits after 15+ minutes at approx 2300 rpm. In an extended
cruise climb to 5400 three days ago (23+ degrees at ground level) the oil temp
remained at 96 degrees C and coolent (Evans) at 75 degrees C (see attached
image). During the long low-power decent back to the airfield the oil temp remained
between 90 and 96, but the coolent temp went down as low as 56.
I've also fitted a thermostatic radiator valve fitted that only routes oil through
the radiator when it reaches approx 83 degrees C. I'll take some pictures
of the finished job and add them to this post.
It will be interesting to see how it copes this winter and if I have to partially
cover either radiator. I don't think this will be necessary, but we'll see.
All the best.
Carl
G-URMS
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| Subject: | Re: Cooling issues XS 914 on the ground |
Hmm. I can't add a screenshot of the Skyview screen (189Kb).
You'll have to take my word for it about the temps. :-)
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| Subject: | Re: Instrument panel module gathering dust? |
I have the alu-panels watercut, that was exactly my reason for asking for pictures
to see it that would work [Laughing] Thanks for providing the hint though.
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Marcel Zwakenberg
XS TG || 912ULS || PH-SBR
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| Subject: | Re: Cooling issues XS 914 on the ground |
On 2016-08-25, at 10:31, carlp101 <cparkinson@cisc-uk.com> wrote:
> Hmm. I can't add a screenshot of the Skyview screen (189Kb).
Carl - there is a process for adding pictures but it requires human processing
at the Matronics end so takes some time (and may not be available now anyway).
However, if you have a DropBox, OneDrive, BT Cloud or iCloud drive you can put
stuff there and then share a link on the Matronics list.
in friendship
Rowland
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| Subject: | Re: Cooling issues XS 914 on the ground |
Carl
I have the same gap. Very Intrested to hear your results. Some photos would be
very helpful.
Thanks
Kevin
> On 25 Aug 2016, at 10:24, carlp101 <cparkinson@cisc-uk.com> wrote:
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> This is all sounding very complicated.
>
> I was having cooling issues on the ground and on extended cruise climbs. I have
the 13 row oil cooler too, but the builder had it mounted with a 30 mm gap
between its base and the inside cowl face. So, a lot of air was just exiting the
cowl without being forced through it or the water radiator.
>
> I've just moved it down 30 mm so there is no gap between it and the inside of
the cowl. I also made two plates that extend the sides of the aluminium cowl
duct (that it's mounted to) down to the base of the oil cooler face and infront
of the mounting points on either side to block off those gaps. Now, all the
air that comes in through the stock rectangular cowl opening has to pass either
through the water radiator or the oil radiator. There's no where else for it
to go.
>
> Testing suggests all cooling issues have been solved. On the ground I was still
within temperature limits after 15+ minutes at approx 2300 rpm. In an extended
cruise climb to 5400 three days ago (23+ degrees at ground level) the oil
temp remained at 96 degrees C and coolent (Evans) at 75 degrees C (see attached
image). During the long low-power decent back to the airfield the oil temp remained
between 90 and 96, but the coolent temp went down as low as 56.
>
> I've also fitted a thermostatic radiator valve fitted that only routes oil through
the radiator when it reaches approx 83 degrees C. I'll take some pictures
of the finished job and add them to this post.
>
> It will be interesting to see how it copes this winter and if I have to partially
cover either radiator. I don't think this will be necessary, but we'll see.
>
> All the best.
> Carl
> G-URMS
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| Subject: | Re: Cooling issues XS 914 on the ground |
Hi All,
This subject is really interesting and I imagine some of the refinements/improvements
that have been found to increase cooling for 914's could be used on 912
powered aircraft without cooling problems to improve cooling efficiency and thereby
reduce drag. I would very much like to see some diagrams, photos with explanatory
notes when the experts reach some conclusions!
John
There are some historical reasons why the standard XS cowl arrangement performs
badly on the ground. When the XS was developed from the Classic,
the factory moved the engine up to give them better prop clearance. This
had the unintended consequence of forcing them to use a smaller diameter
spinner, which exposed the propeller cuffs and roots. These cuffs thrash
around during ground running producing no thrust and a large amount
of turbulent air.
The designers threw every known orifice at the new cowl; two Lo-Presti's
(popular at the time), two NACA vents (because all real aeroplanes have
to have NACA vents), two louvres to complete the set and a shoe-box underneath
to keep the radiator out of the cold (I think someone added that
for a bet).
The problem when ground running is that all this swirling airmass is largely
passing across the mouths of these vents - not into them. The Lo-Presti's
are positioned adjacent to the blade roots and the radiator, positioned
way back in its duct, is sitting in stagnant air. It's not until the
aircraft reaches flying speed that the apparent wind comes more from
the front that air begins to enter the vents/ducts and the cooling improves.
This is one reason why Frans Veldman's front mounted radiator arrangement
is so much more effective. High twist blades such as the Woodcomp
have been shown to give better ground-running temperatures because
they produce a much better airflow at the blade roots than many of the
flatter blade options.
I started with the prop/spinner and worked back. I lowered the engine to
the original Classic position - but maintained the XS forward position.
This allowed me to design a much larger spinner to completely shroud the
blade cuffs and most of the blade root.
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Europa mono Nr 192
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| Subject: | Re: Cooling issues XS 914 on the ground |
Carl,
Likewise I have a 1cm gap between bottom of water radiator and bottom cowl.
I experienced heating problems on the ground in Spain on recent trip to Gibraltar.
I will be experimenting on my next trip to warmer places by closing this gap.
Have been thinking of Nev Eyres new cowl? But am put off by work involved at the
moment.
Dave G-LDVO
Sent from my iPad
> On 25 Aug 2016, at 10:56, Kevin Challis <cakeykev@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Carl
>
> I have the same gap. Very Intrested to hear your results. Some photos would be
very helpful.
>
> Thanks
> Kevin
>
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>> On 25 Aug 2016, at 10:24, carlp101 <cparkinson@cisc-uk.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> This is all sounding very complicated.
>>
>> I was having cooling issues on the ground and on extended cruise climbs. I have
the 13 row oil cooler too, but the builder had it mounted with a 30 mm gap
between its base and the inside cowl face. So, a lot of air was just exiting
the cowl without being forced through it or the water radiator.
>>
>> I've just moved it down 30 mm so there is no gap between it and the inside of
the cowl. I also made two plates that extend the sides of the aluminium cowl
duct (that it's mounted to) down to the base of the oil cooler face and infront
of the mounting points on either side to block off those gaps. Now, all the
air that comes in through the stock rectangular cowl opening has to pass either
through the water radiator or the oil radiator. There's no where else for it
to go.
>>
>> Testing suggests all cooling issues have been solved. On the ground I was still
within temperature limits after 15+ minutes at approx 2300 rpm. In an extended
cruise climb to 5400 three days ago (23+ degrees at ground level) the oil
temp remained at 96 degrees C and coolent (Evans) at 75 degrees C (see attached
image). During the long low-power decent back to the airfield the oil temp
remained between 90 and 96, but the coolent temp went down as low as 56.
>>
>> I've also fitted a thermostatic radiator valve fitted that only routes oil through
the radiator when it reaches approx 83 degrees C. I'll take some pictures
of the finished job and add them to this post.
>>
>> It will be interesting to see how it copes this winter and if I have to partially
cover either radiator. I don't think this will be necessary, but we'll see.
>>
>> All the best.
>> Carl
>> G-URMS
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>> Read this topic online here:
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>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=459862#459862
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Has anyone fitted a cooling fan to assist ground cooling. If so specs. please.
Dave Park
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| Subject: | Re: Cooling issues XS 914 on the ground |
COOLING FAN FOR GROUND COOLING. Has any one experimented with a fan?
Dave Park
> On 25 Aug 2016, at 13:14, david park <dpark748@icloud.com> wrote:
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>
> Carl,
> Likewise I have a 1cm gap between bottom of water radiator and bottom cowl.
> I experienced heating problems on the ground in Spain on recent trip to Gibraltar.
> I will be experimenting on my next trip to warmer places by closing this gap.
> Have been thinking of Nev Eyres new cowl? But am put off by work involved at
the moment.
> Dave G-LDVO
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>> On 25 Aug 2016, at 10:56, Kevin Challis <cakeykev@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Carl
>>
>> I have the same gap. Very Intrested to hear your results. Some photos would
be very helpful.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Kevin
>>
>>
>>> On 25 Aug 2016, at 10:24, carlp101 <cparkinson@cisc-uk.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> This is all sounding very complicated.
>>>
>>> I was having cooling issues on the ground and on extended cruise climbs. I
have the 13 row oil cooler too, but the builder had it mounted with a 30 mm gap
between its base and the inside cowl face. So, a lot of air was just exiting
the cowl without being forced through it or the water radiator.
>>>
>>> I've just moved it down 30 mm so there is no gap between it and the inside
of the cowl. I also made two plates that extend the sides of the aluminium cowl
duct (that it's mounted to) down to the base of the oil cooler face and infront
of the mounting points on either side to block off those gaps. Now, all the
air that comes in through the stock rectangular cowl opening has to pass either
through the water radiator or the oil radiator. There's no where else for
it to go.
>>>
>>> Testing suggests all cooling issues have been solved. On the ground I was still
within temperature limits after 15+ minutes at approx 2300 rpm. In an extended
cruise climb to 5400 three days ago (23+ degrees at ground level) the oil
temp remained at 96 degrees C and coolent (Evans) at 75 degrees C (see attached
image). During the long low-power decent back to the airfield the oil temp
remained between 90 and 96, but the coolent temp went down as low as 56.
>>>
>>> I've also fitted a thermostatic radiator valve fitted that only routes oil
through the radiator when it reaches approx 83 degrees C. I'll take some pictures
of the finished job and add them to this post.
>>>
>>> It will be interesting to see how it copes this winter and if I have to partially
cover either radiator. I don't think this will be necessary, but we'll
see.
>>>
>>> All the best.
>>> Carl
>>> G-URMS
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Read this topic online here:
>>>
>>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=459862#459862
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Unclear here.
What are you trying to cool on the ground?
I have three fans in my panel, for example. They are barely enough.
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Ira N224XS
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It was relating to the subject, water radiator cooling on ground.
Dave Park
> On 25 Aug 2016, at 14:51, rampil <ira.rampil@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Unclear here.
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> What are you trying to cool on the ground?
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> I have three fans in my panel, for example. They are barely enough.
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| Subject: | Re: Cooling issues XS 914 on the ground |
I am implementing a cooling fan for ground running. No temp specs, since the
plane is in build....however, a cooling fan in similar arrangement works
great on my motorcycle, so I figured it might work well here. Its an
electric radiator fan for a quad Kart of of some sort, and covers approx.
half of the oil cooler. The oil cooler, though offset from the water cooler
(914 engine), is sealed to it in the area where they over-lap in front of
the fan to promote airflow through both radiators (sucking air through the
oil radiator will also do the same with the water radiaor...lots of work
here to create tight-fitting air dams). Having the two radiators tight with
each other will hopefully cut down on warm-up time during the winter as
well. The fan is lightweight, cheap, and only requires a wire run and
switch. Once verified to work, it will be made to be automatic on/off. For
extreme cooling situations in flight with the airflow pushing and the fans
pulling, the extra leverage 'seems' a no-brainer. I figure it won't windmill
much if at all in the airflow while off, due to the resistance to the air by
the radiators mounted in front of it. This arrangement would be much easier
to implement with the radiators in-line with each other, but the offset is
known to work well, and the decision had already been made. More data will
follow at some point..
Greg Fuchs
914 TRI
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COOLING FAN FOR GROUND COOLING. Has any one experimented with a fan?
Dave Park
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One of the first issues is the operating temperature range of the fan.
Most of the Computer Fans, 12 volt and small enough to fit under the cowling, are
rated to +40 or +50 C where we are talking about temperatures above that.
There are vehicle fans but these are much larger.
A manually switched fan was, is, fitted to the SkyArrow and the Operating Manual
advised its use when the coolant temperature on the ground goes above 80 C but
not sure of its source. The SkyArrow had a pusher prop so the airflow through
the radiator on the ground wasnt great.
Alan
G-OBJT
> On 25 Aug 2016, at 15:12, david park <dpark748@icloud.com> wrote:
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> It was relating to the subject, water radiator cooling on ground.
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> Dave Park
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>> On 25 Aug 2016, at 14:51, rampil <ira.rampil@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> Unclear here.
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>> What are you trying to cool on the ground?
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>> I have three fans in my panel, for example. They are barely enough.
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>> Ira N224XS
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| Subject: | Re: Cooling issues XS 914 on the ground |
Can you give fan specs and where available!
Dave Park
> On 25 Aug 2016, at 15:22, Greg Fuchs <gregoryf.flyboy@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
> I am implementing a cooling fan for ground running. No temp specs, since the
> plane is in build....however, a cooling fan in similar arrangement works
> great on my motorcycle, so I figured it might work well here. Its an
> electric radiator fan for a quad Kart of of some sort, and covers approx.
> half of the oil cooler. The oil cooler, though offset from the water cooler
> (914 engine), is sealed to it in the area where they over-lap in front of
> the fan to promote airflow through both radiators (sucking air through the
> oil radiator will also do the same with the water radiaor...lots of work
> here to create tight-fitting air dams). Having the two radiators tight with
> each other will hopefully cut down on warm-up time during the winter as
> well. The fan is lightweight, cheap, and only requires a wire run and
> switch. Once verified to work, it will be made to be automatic on/off. For
> extreme cooling situations in flight with the airflow pushing and the fans
> pulling, the extra leverage 'seems' a no-brainer. I figure it won't windmill
> much if at all in the airflow while off, due to the resistance to the air by
> the radiators mounted in front of it. This arrangement would be much easier
> to implement with the radiators in-line with each other, but the offset is
> known to work well, and the decision had already been made. More data will
> follow at some point..
> Greg Fuchs
> 914 TRI
>
> -----Original Message-----
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>
> COOLING FAN FOR GROUND COOLING. Has any one experimented with a fan?
>
> Dave Park
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| Subject: | Re: Cooling issues XS 914 on the ground |
Ive just looked at these>
http://www.demon-tweeks.co.uk/motorsport/fans-fan-kits/revotec-slimline-cooling-fans
various sizes.
Alan
> On 25 Aug 2016, at 15:55, david park <dpark748@icloud.com> wrote:
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> Can you give fan specs and where available!
>
> Dave Park
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>> On 25 Aug 2016, at 15:22, Greg Fuchs <gregoryf.flyboy@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>> I am implementing a cooling fan for ground running. No temp specs, since the
>> plane is in build....however, a cooling fan in similar arrangement works
>> great on my motorcycle, so I figured it might work well here. Its an
>> electric radiator fan for a quad Kart of of some sort, and covers approx.
>> half of the oil cooler. The oil cooler, though offset from the water cooler
>> (914 engine), is sealed to it in the area where they over-lap in front of
>> the fan to promote airflow through both radiators (sucking air through the
>> oil radiator will also do the same with the water radiaor...lots of work
>> here to create tight-fitting air dams). Having the two radiators tight with
>> each other will hopefully cut down on warm-up time during the winter as
>> well. The fan is lightweight, cheap, and only requires a wire run and
>> switch. Once verified to work, it will be made to be automatic on/off. For
>> extreme cooling situations in flight with the airflow pushing and the fans
>> pulling, the extra leverage 'seems' a no-brainer. I figure it won't windmill
>> much if at all in the airflow while off, due to the resistance to the air by
>> the radiators mounted in front of it. This arrangement would be much easier
>> to implement with the radiators in-line with each other, but the offset is
>> known to work well, and the decision had already been made. More data will
>> follow at some point..
>> Greg Fuchs
>> 914 TRI
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>>
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>> COOLING FAN FOR GROUND COOLING. Has any one experimented with a fan?
>>
>> Dave Park
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| Subject: | Re: Cooling issues XS 914 on the ground |
Demon tweeks do mc fans push and pull with specs of m2 per hour
Kevin
> On 25 Aug 2016, at 15:55, david park <dpark748@icloud.com> wrote:
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> Can you give fan specs and where available!
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> Dave Park
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>> On 25 Aug 2016, at 15:22, Greg Fuchs <gregoryf.flyboy@comcast.net> wrote:
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>> I am implementing a cooling fan for ground running. No temp specs, since the
>> plane is in build....however, a cooling fan in similar arrangement works
>> great on my motorcycle, so I figured it might work well here. Its an
>> electric radiator fan for a quad Kart of of some sort, and covers approx.
>> half of the oil cooler. The oil cooler, though offset from the water cooler
>> (914 engine), is sealed to it in the area where they over-lap in front of
>> the fan to promote airflow through both radiators (sucking air through the
>> oil radiator will also do the same with the water radiaor...lots of work
>> here to create tight-fitting air dams). Having the two radiators tight with
>> each other will hopefully cut down on warm-up time during the winter as
>> well. The fan is lightweight, cheap, and only requires a wire run and
>> switch. Once verified to work, it will be made to be automatic on/off. For
>> extreme cooling situations in flight with the airflow pushing and the fans
>> pulling, the extra leverage 'seems' a no-brainer. I figure it won't windmill
>> much if at all in the airflow while off, due to the resistance to the air by
>> the radiators mounted in front of it. This arrangement would be much easier
>> to implement with the radiators in-line with each other, but the offset is
>> known to work well, and the decision had already been made. More data will
>> follow at some point..
>> Greg Fuchs
>> 914 TRI
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>> -----Original Message-----
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>> COOLING FAN FOR GROUND COOLING. Has any one experimented with a fan?
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>> Dave Park
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| Subject: | Re: Cooling issues XS 914 on the ground |
Dave,
Dimension of fan is approx. 100mm square, and is made for radiator cooling,
so it should handle the temps.
Put this into your favorite web search tool:'Electric Radiator Cooling Fan
For Chinese 200cc 250cc Quad ATV Go Kart Buggy'
You'll find it...cost is about 15 US Dollars. Cheap enough to try.
Greg
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Can you give fan specs and where available!
Dave Park
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| Subject: | Re: Cooling issues XS 914 on the ground |
Thanks
Dave Park
> On 25 Aug 2016, at 16:36, Greg Fuchs <gregoryf.flyboy@comcast.net> wrote:
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> Dave,
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> Dimension of fan is approx. 100mm square, and is made for radiator cooling,
> so it should handle the temps.
>
> Put this into your favorite web search tool:'Electric Radiator Cooling Fan
> For Chinese 200cc 250cc Quad ATV Go Kart Buggy'
> You'll find it...cost is about 15 US Dollars. Cheap enough to try.
>
> Greg
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of david park
> Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 7:56 AM
> To: europa-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Cooling issues XS 914 on the ground
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> Can you give fan specs and where available!
>
> Dave Park
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| Subject: | Fwd: Infringments |
>
> This is a sobering piece by NATS on Infringements and their impact on
other users of the airspace.
>
> http://www.nats.aero/discover/infringements/
<http://www.nats.aero/discover/infringements/>
>
> The South or England has one of the highest levels of infringements
and Solent, Stansted, Luton and Heathrow feature in the top list of
airspace infringed. However many other areas of airspace suffer their
fair share.
>
> As GA pilots we should be doing all we can to ensure we know where we
are at all times and the airspace our intended route will take us.
Contact ATC, use Listening SQUAWKS and plan your route. Do not scrape
down the side of airspace as while you might think your are 3 meters
outside of the zone according to your GPS, to ATC using a very accurate
and validated radar map, your are too close for comfort and with unknown
intentions.
>
> You will hear this message from multiple sources and I make no
apologies for sending this link to all concerned as if we, as GA Pilots,
don't take responsibility for addressing the problem others will on our
behalf and we may not like the solutions offered.
>
> Fly safe
>
> Alan Burrill
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| Subject: | Re: Cooling issues XS 914 on the ground |
Thanks Nigel for your detailed answer. I look forward to hear from you when you
are in the testing phase of your Calypso.
Remi
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| Subject: | Re: Cooling issues XS 914 on the ground |
Hi all,
Here are a few pics I took tonight of my installation. I'll need to take some with
the cowl off.
Let me know if you have any questions.
All the best.
Carl
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/18135747/image%201.jpeg
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/18135747/image%202.jpeg
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/18135747/image%203.jpeg
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/18135747/image%204.jpeg
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